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Old 02-06-2007, 12:31 AM    (permalink
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1. Steve Young
2. Dan Marino
3. Joe Montana
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Peyton will be #1 when he is done, but I won't count him yet.

1.Montana
2.Marino
3.Elway
4.Favre
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I'd be willing to bet $100 bucks that the % of people (in this room who voted him as a top 5 QB of all time) who actually watched Johnny Unitas play a game (in it's entirety , while the game was being played) is under 5%.

Why not just include Jesus and Moses in the top 5 as well
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i don't know how anyoen can make a legitimate top 5 list anymore. there are just too many guys bunched at the top. imo, you've got elway, montana and unitas in some order at the top. but then marino's in there someplace, right? i mean, super bowls are huge, but they shouldn't be the only thing that matters. favre's there, but are we talking retired guys only? if not, should we assume favre breaks the records this year (i know how clsoe he is)? what do you do with brady and manning, who shouldn't be anywhere near a top five list yet, but who absolutely will be by the time they retire. for that matter, what happens when they DO retire? who are they honestly better than? what to you do with the old guys like graham and baugh? what do you do with young?

it just seems like you're going to have a lot of a's and b's in any top five list, as i just don't see any realistic way to separate some of those guys.
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TOP 5 QBS OF ALL TIME:
FAVRE
GOD
JESUS
MOSES
UNITAS

OH WAIT I PUT FAVRE IN FOR THE TOP 3 OMGZ!!@3

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and just because it will annoy someone, assuming that favre has an average year this year and then retires:

1a. John Elway
1b. Brett Favre
2. Montana
3. Unitas
4. Marino
5. (pick your own next 5 second tier guys)
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and just because it will annoy someone, assuming that favre has an average year this year and then retires:

1a. John Elway
1b. Brett Favre
2. Montana
3. Unitas
4. Marino
5. (pick your own next 5 second tier guys)
I look at those 5 and feel that I need to get Steve Young in there also. I don't know a lot about Graham and Manning will surely be up around them when he's done. Those seem to be the top 8
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and just because it will annoy someone, assuming that favre has an average year this year and then retires:

1a. John Elway
1b. Brett Favre
2. Montana
3. Unitas
4. Marino
5. (pick your own next 5 second tier guys)
I look at those 5 and feel that I need to get Steve Young in there also. I don't know a lot about Graham and Manning will surely be up around them when he's done. Those seem to be the top 8
steve young's part of the next tier for me. he was GREAT, but those guys are/were amazing. i have no doubt manning will be someone's b eventually, but i just can't justify putting him up there. i mean, say he pulled a tiki tomorrow, he'd be a great all-time qb and might still get HOF consdieration, but you wouldn't ever really mention him as top five of all time.
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and just because it will annoy someone, assuming that favre has an average year this year and then retires:

1a. John Elway
1b. Brett Favre
2. Montana
3. Unitas
4. Marino
5. (pick your own next 5 second tier guys)
Wow, Favre is my all time favorite player, and I wouldn't say he is the best QB ever. I'll do my pre-WC offense, and my post-WC offense(I chose that time period because the West Coast offense completely changed offenses completely, making the statistics impossible to compare. Not to mention, the rules were changed to open up the passing game in 1978.)

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1. Montana
2-4. Elway, Favre, Marino
5. Young

Pre:
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2.Baugh
3.Tarkenton
4.Graham
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Wow, Favre is my all time favorite player, and I wouldn't say he is the best QB ever. I'll do my pre-WC offense, and my post-WC offense(I chose that time period because the West Coast offense completely changed offenses completely, making the statistics impossible to compare. Not to mention, the rules were changed to open up the passing game in 1978.)
i figured someone would be surprised. i recall seeing favre sprinting straight to the right (around '94-'95) and firing the ball across his body 60 yards downfield on a rope for a completion. elway was the only other quarterback i think had a vague chance of making the same throw. and that's just on thing that popped into mind.
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Wow, Favre is my all time favorite player, and I wouldn't say he is the best QB ever. I'll do my pre-WC offense, and my post-WC offense(I chose that time period because the West Coast offense completely changed offenses completely, making the statistics impossible to compare. Not to mention, the rules were changed to open up the passing game in 1978.)
i figured someone would be surprised. i recall seeing favre sprinting straight to the right (around '94-'95) and firing the ball across his body 60 yards downfield on a rope for a completion. elway was the only other quarterback i think had a vague chance of making the same throw. and that's just on thing that popped into mind.
:-D, that was against the Lions in the first round of the playoffs. Elway definitely could make a throw like that. I think his arm may have even been stronger than Favre's ever was.
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Wow, Favre is my all time favorite player, and I wouldn't say he is the best QB ever. I'll do my pre-WC offense, and my post-WC offense(I chose that time period because the West Coast offense completely changed offenses completely, making the statistics impossible to compare. Not to mention, the rules were changed to open up the passing game in 1978.)
i figured someone would be surprised. i recall seeing favre sprinting straight to the right (around '94-'95) and firing the ball across his body 60 yards downfield on a rope for a completion. elway was the only other quarterback i think had a vague chance of making the same throw. and that's just on thing that popped into mind.
Vick could probably make that throw as well. Not that I wouldn't say he's potentially top 3 all-time, but that gives no indication of whether or not he was greater than all of those other guys, unless you were recalling a memory in a misleading train of thought.
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Wow, Favre is my all time favorite player, and I wouldn't say he is the best QB ever. I'll do my pre-WC offense, and my post-WC offense(I chose that time period because the West Coast offense completely changed offenses completely, making the statistics impossible to compare. Not to mention, the rules were changed to open up the passing game in 1978.)
i figured someone would be surprised. i recall seeing favre sprinting straight to the right (around '94-'95) and firing the ball across his body 60 yards downfield on a rope for a completion. elway was the only other quarterback i think had a vague chance of making the same throw. and that's just on thing that popped into mind.
Vick could probably make that throw as well. Not that I wouldn't say he's potentially top 3 all-time, but that gives no indication of whether or not he was greater than all of those other guys, unless you were recalling a memory in a misleading train of thought.
Vick has the arm strength to do it, but not the accuracy to go along. He wasn't saying that that is the reason favre is a top QB, just that it is his iconic memory of him.
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Wow, Favre is my all time favorite player, and I wouldn't say he is the best QB ever. I'll do my pre-WC offense, and my post-WC offense(I chose that time period because the West Coast offense completely changed offenses completely, making the statistics impossible to compare. Not to mention, the rules were changed to open up the passing game in 1978.)
i figured someone would be surprised. i recall seeing favre sprinting straight to the right (around '94-'95) and firing the ball across his body 60 yards downfield on a rope for a completion. elway was the only other quarterback i think had a vague chance of making the same throw. and that's just on thing that popped into mind.
Vick could probably make that throw as well. Not that I wouldn't say he's potentially top 3 all-time, but that gives no indication of whether or not he was greater than all of those other guys, unless you were recalling a memory in a misleading train of thought.
Vick has the arm strength to do it, but not the accuracy to go along. He wasn't saying that that is the reason favre is a top QB, just that it is his iconic memory of him.
Even if vick could get the pass off with good accuracy, his receivers would probably drop it. But since that's obviously not the issue here, I'd just wanna say that it sounds like a great play he made there.

Oh and that list is hilarious.
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1. Antwaan Randle El
2. Peyton Manning
3. Johnny Unitas
4. Steve Young
5. Terry Bradshaw

Best 5 (as of now):
1. Joe Montana
2. Johnny Unitas
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Wow, Favre is my all time favorite player, and I wouldn't say he is the best QB ever. I'll do my pre-WC offense, and my post-WC offense(I chose that time period because the West Coast offense completely changed offenses completely, making the statistics impossible to compare. Not to mention, the rules were changed to open up the passing game in 1978.)
i figured someone would be surprised. i recall seeing favre sprinting straight to the right (around '94-'95) and firing the ball across his body 60 yards downfield on a rope for a completion. elway was the only other quarterback i think had a vague chance of making the same throw. and that's just on thing that popped into mind.
Vick could probably make that throw as well. Not that I wouldn't say he's potentially top 3 all-time, but that gives no indication of whether or not he was greater than all of those other guys, unless you were recalling a memory in a misleading train of thought.
Vick has the arm strength to do it, but not the accuracy to go along. He wasn't saying that that is the reason favre is a top QB, just that it is his iconic memory of him.
exactly. for some reason, it stands out above almost every other memory by a long shot.
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i figured someone would be surprised. i recall seeing favre sprinting straight to the right (around '94-'95) and firing the ball across his body 60 yards downfield on a rope for a completion. elway was the only other quarterback i think had a vague chance of making the same throw. and that's just on thing that popped into mind.
Vick could probably make that throw as well. Not that I wouldn't say he's potentially top 3 all-time, but that gives no indication of whether or not he was greater than all of those other guys, unless you were recalling a memory in a misleading train of thought.
Vick has the arm strength to do it, but not the accuracy to go along. He wasn't saying that that is the reason favre is a top QB, just that it is his iconic memory of him.
exactly. for some reason, it stands out above almost every other memory by a long shot.
Just seeing if that could get clarified. I will say that his performance on MNF after his dad passed away stands far above any other memory I have of him.
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that's probably my #2, although watching him get back in warren sapp's face when sapp was jawing at him is right there with it. i think that was the moment i really started to like the guy. speaking of favre-love-fests.
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1.Montana
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1. Dylan
2. Dylan
3. Dylan
4. Dylan
5. Dylan

Cause he spit hot fire....

But seriously, top 5

1. Unitas
2. Montana
3. Elway
4. Marino
5. Brady (im projecting here)

To me, there are only 2 players in NFL history that changed the game at a magnitude that will never be reached by anyone else. Thats Lawrence Taylor on defense, and Johhny Unitas on offense. The man was so ahead of his time, its not even funny. Peyton Manning just recently broke his all time yardage record for the Colts, and remember, Unitas played in the 50s/60s! Totally different era, for him to play like a qb from the 80s during the 50s.....he was so ahead of his time. Changed the game. I like Montana better, but you gotta respect what Unitas did during his era. Unbelievable. Id give Tarkenton some love, but the man just choked in the SB too much.

As far as Brady goes, Im projecting here. He's this generations Montana. Everyone wants to kill him now that Peyton won a SB and Brady lost, but thats dumb, I can point out the 49-3 asswhoopin the Giants gave Montana, or the 15-13 boxing match with him, but that doesn't mean he stinks. He was amazing, and so is Brady. Brady does more with less than anybody.
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Originally Posted by bigbluedefense
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Cause he spit hot fire....

But seriously, top 5

1. Unitas
2. Montana
3. Elway
4. Marino
5. Brady (im projecting here)

To me, there are only 2 players in NFL history that changed the game at a magnitude that will never be reached by anyone else. Thats Lawrence Taylor on defense, and Johhny Unitas on offense. The man was so ahead of his time, its not even funny. Peyton Manning just recently broke his all time yardage record for the Colts, and remember, Unitas played in the 50s/60s! Totally different era, for him to play like a qb from the 80s during the 50s.....he was so ahead of his time. Changed the game. I like Montana better, but you gotta respect what Unitas did during his era. Unbelievable. Id give Tarkenton some love, but the man just choked in the SB too much.

As far as Brady goes, Im projecting here. He's this generations Montana. Everyone wants to kill him now that Peyton won a SB and Brady lost, but thats dumb, I can point out the 49-3 asswhoopin the Giants gave Montana, or the 15-13 boxing match with him, but that doesn't mean he stinks. He was amazing, and so is Brady. Brady does more with less than anybody.
Except Elway.
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