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Old 11-07-2008, 01:07 PM    (permalink
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No complaints here. Personally I'd have Denver a bit higher but maybe thats because of last night's win. I just see them as a bit better of a team than the Saints, Dolphins and Jaguars.
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No complaints here. Personally I'd have Denver a bit higher but maybe thats because of last night's win. I just see them as a bit better of a team than the Saints, Dolphins and Jaguars.
Broncos are on the cusp. I think they have a bottom 5 defense in the league with the injuries. And with everyone and their mother on IR within their backfield...I can't realistically think they finish above .500 with the crappy weather around the corner.
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I don't really have a problem with the Vikings rating. I do think they are a better team than the Packers but I guess we will find out for sure soon enough. If the Packers lose to the Vikings and are still rated above the Packers then I will have a problem but now I am fine with everything.
The Packers could have very easily beat the Titans who are 8-0, the Vikings could barely beat the Lions who are 0-8. The Packers also beat the Vikings once this season for like the 6th time in a row. So exactly whats the problem? How are the Vikings better?


As for Peterson he has had good games but never monster games againist us. 112, 47, and 103......
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The Packers could have very easily beat the Titans who are 8-0, the Vikings could barely beat the Lions who are 0-8. The Packers also beat the Vikings once this season for like the 6th time in a row. So exactly whats the problem? How are the Vikings better?


As for Peterson he has had good games but never monster games againist us. 112, 47, and 103......
Did you not actually read my post? I said the rankings on their two teams are fine because while I personally think the Packers are horrendous (homer bias) and the Vikings will prove to be the better team this weekend it has not happened yet. Thus the teams are where they should be. So I don't know why you are arguing a post that is agreeing the Packers should be higher right now. Don't go using the Packers could have easily beat the Titans argument because I could also say that about the Vikings when they played the Titans. All I said was this week will prove who the better team is which is true.
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where would u guys rank the Bears?
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Did you not actually read my post? I said the rankings on their two teams are fine because while I personally think the Packers are horrendous (homer bias) and the Vikings will prove to be the better team this weekend it has not happened yet. Thus the teams are where they should be. So I don't know why you are arguing a post that is agreeing the Packers should be higher right now. Don't go using the Packers could have easily beat the Titans argument because I could also say that about the Vikings when they played the Titans. All I said was this week will prove who the better team is which is true.
Even if the Vikings did somehow win that shouldn't automatically put them ahead of the Packers. And you said I think the Vikings are better so I was curious as to why?
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Bucs beat 4 of the teams ranked above them and have better records than 3 of them as well. The only team that has a better record (Panthers) was ***** slapped all over the field by the Bucs 27-3. And the defense has peaked? The young guys are only getting better. Ruud, Talib, TJax, Gaines have no where near peaked.

And you can't fault them for squeaking out a win against KC. Washington squeaked one out against Detroit last week and a win is a win. I think you just hate the bucs for some reason.
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Even if the Vikings did somehow win that shouldn't automatically put them ahead of the Packers. And you said I think the Vikings are better so I was curious as to why?
And I explained Homer bias.

I think beating you this Sunday for sure puts us ahead. We will have the better record and will have split the season series while having a schedule on par with yours. That to me means we would automatically be better. Now have we beat you yet? No. So we will have to wait and see what happens. If you beat us this week there is no way we should ever be ranked close to you in the power rankings.
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The problem is campbell cant go deep because we have a bad offensive line and really dont run that many multiple wide reciver sets
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Earnest Graham has only been a non-factor due to injuries to other RB's forcing him to play FB and because of injuries to himself.
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The problem is campbell cant go deep because we have a bad offensive line and really dont run that many multiple wide reciver sets
That and Santana is our only wideout who can stretch the field vertically. Take him out and we have no one else. Randle El is an awful vertical threat, and don't get me started on James Thrash. Devin Thomas isn't there either. Cooley works the middle like a beast though.
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I don't think you can evaluate a team based on their schedule and record. Green Bay may be 4-4 but was never out of a game before mid way through the fourth quarter and that was once, against the pre-sucking Cowboys. We have the talent and mentality to win but come up a few plays short of a W unlike last year where we found a way to pull them out. As for the Vikings-Packers comparison, I find the Packers to be the better overall team but my opinion doesnt have any substance being a homer. Any non biased fans wanna comment on who the better team is between Minn and Green Bay, kind of curious.
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how about Minny, GB and the Bears?
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how about Minny, GB and the Bears?
That would work too. Mine would be:

Minnesota << Chicago < Green Bay

Only because of Orton's injury. I really just don't see it in this Minnesota team that puts them over Chicago or Green Bay.
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That would work too. Mine would be:

Minnesota << Chicago < Green Bay

Only because of Orton's injury. I really just don't see it in this Minnesota team that puts them over Chicago or Green Bay.
Right now I have Bears > Packers > Vikings as far as how they should be ranked. Talent wise I am biased so I won't even comment on that. After this week (I think teams have started to show their true colors the past couple weeks so it is easier to rank them) if teh Vikings beat the Packers I would rank it Bears > Vikings > Packers with all of them still being very close ranking wise and if the Packers win I would rank it Bears > Packers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vikings. Now if the Bears lose which is likely but not a sure thing I would have the Bears and Vikings tied if the Vikings beat the Packers and if the Bears lose in a close game I would have them tied with the Packers if the Packers win.

Sorry, that might be a little complicated. I tried to be unbiased but it is near impossible.
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Right now I have Bears > Packers > Vikings as far as how they should be ranked. Talent wise I am biased so I won't even comment on that. After this week (I think teams have started to show their true colors the past couple weeks so it is easier to rank them) if teh Vikings beat the Packers I would rank it Bears > Vikings > Packers with all of them still being very close ranking wise and if the Packers win I would rank it Bears > Packers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vikings. Now if the Bears lose which is likely but not a sure thing I would have the Bears and Vikings tied if the Vikings beat the Packers and if the Bears lose in a close game I would have them tied with the Packers if the Packers win.

Sorry, that might be a little complicated. I tried to be unbiased but it is near impossible.
You're right that the last couple weeks teams have shown their true colors. This coming Sunday will tell us alot about not only the teams but the division. I know saying Week 10 is a big week for the playoff picture is kind of insane but tomorrow will show us alot about the NFC North perspective. It's almost impossible to assess a team's talent compared to your own team's so I wont even bother with that. The Packers have shown what they are capable of the last three weeks and IMO we should have won the game against the Titans if it werent for the underneath screens on 3rd and long but we didnt so well have to move on.
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Glad to see the Panthers top 5. They're the best team no one is hearing about. They're running the ball well and playing very, very good defense.
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