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Old 11-12-2008, 06:25 PM    (permalink
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Yeah, but in order to be dissapointing you have to have been expected to be good
they were expected to be better than this
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I don't know if it has been mentioned but Marvin Harrison and Peyton Manning have been pretty disappointing, Peyton hasn't been horrible, but I mean he sure hasn't been Peyton.
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they were expected to be better than this
Not really. Okay fine if 5-8 wins is worth anything.
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Old 11-12-2008, 06:52 PM    (permalink
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Well, if you consider him not a disappointment, then i'd love to see what makes the cut. Regardless of who is around him, he's been disappointing.....simply put. The whole team has, but he is included in that. Is he not a factor? TJ has got catches. A player of his caliber, and with a mouth like him, he should be producing. He needs a top tier QB to justify his status? That should show the type of player you expect him to be. Throw some other WRs with average/below average QBs in his place, let them produce and get his hype. You can't say, 'what do you expect' because i expect a guy to produce when he is a supposed to be 'top tier' WR, especially one with a mouth like that. Be the playmaker, don't dissappear. At least he's not yapping a lot this season......
I don't think Chad needs a "top tier" QB to perform, I think he needs a strong armed QB to perform. I don't think Randy Moss has been a disappointment this season either just because Tom Brady went down. (Despite Welker performing pretty well still in the reception department).

Some receivers require certain types of QB's to get them to look good. Randy Moss doesn't look good with Cassel and Chad Johnson doesn't look as good with Fitzpatrick.

I'm guessing we have different definitions of disappointing in this regard though.
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John Abraham - he's way overrated
Roddy White - his drop on the 3rd down play to ice the game nearly cost the Falcons a win
Michael Turner - couldn't even get 100 yards against the Saints defense, yuck
Matt Ryan - why is this guy getting so much love, he's thrown 5 interceptions this year and isn't even to 60% completion
Curtis Lofton - he's only second amongst rookies in the NFL in tackles, and he's not been anything near as good as Keith Brooking has been at WLB.
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John Abraham - he's way overrated
Roddy White - his drop on the 3rd down play to ice the game nearly cost the Falcons a win
Michael Turner - couldn't even get 100 yards against the Saints defense, yuck
Matt Ryan - why is this guy getting so much love, he's thrown 5 interceptions this year and isn't even to 60% completion
Curtis Lofton - he's only second amongst rookies in the NFL in tackles, and he's not been anything near as good as Keith Brooking has been at WLB.
I know you're being sarcastic and all but I just shook my head. Was I suppose to lol?
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Tood Heap? Well, in Cam's system, he's mostly blocking and he's doing a good job at blocking. But I expected him to catch a little more.
I would say Mark Clayton too. I've always had hope for him, but he's been pretty much the most inconsistent guy on the roster.
And without a doubt Matt Stover. He's been missing chip shots lately and it's extremely disappointing, maybe father time finally caught up to him.
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Torry Holt has been very disappointing this season. Dudes on pace for like 600 receiving yards this season. Marc Bulger is probably a bigger disappointment.
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And without a doubt Matt Stover. He's been missing chip shots lately and it's extremely disappointing, maybe father time finally caught up to him.
So 45 yard, 47 yard, 48 yard, and 50 yard field goals are chip shots?
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This list could prolly Just be made of WRs

-braylon edwards (could have about 4 more tds if it weren't for his hands)
-TO (hasn't broken 90 yards this year)
-Marvin Harrison (Shell of his former self)
-Chad Johnson (Has just not been very good thsi season)
-Randy Moss (hasn't been horrible but has not played like last year, understandably so though)
-Marques Colston (Hurt)
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Old 11-13-2008, 09:31 AM    (permalink
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This list could prolly Just be made of WRs

-braylon edwards (could have about 4 more tds if it weren't for his hands)
-TO (hasn't broken 90 yards this year)
-Marvin Harrison (Shell of his former self)
-Chad Johnson (Has just not been very good thsi season)
-Randy Moss (hasn't been horrible but has not played like last year, understandably so though)
-Marques Colston (Hurt)
Braylon, I agree with. TO is understandable but the same case can be made for both Chad and Moss that they lost their QB for extended periods of time. Harrison is getting older and I think he's packing it up after this year, 'on his own terms.' Colston has been hurt so I wouldn't exactly doom his with the disappointment tag this year. So, to me, only two of those guys are actually disappointing. Marvin, because of age, and Braylon, with the Carlos Rogers disease. Everyone else but those two; I would call unfortunate.
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Alex Smith for starters.
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So 45 yard, 47 yard, 48 yard, and 50 yard field goals are chip shots?
Well yea, he used to be able to make it from 75 yards out...seriously hes known for accuracy not leg strength so I can't really call him disappointing...
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Justin Miller..?
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eh, he's a perennial guy like that.....not worth mentioning.
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it wouldn't surprise me if someone picked him up and he had a good career. he has great potential
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Michael Huff was gonna have a pro bowl season at FS, nope. Like Charles Woodson said playing DB is a man's game in Oakland.

I wonder what his trade value his worth
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Braylon, I agree with. TO is understandable but the same case can be made for both Chad and Moss that they lost their QB for extended periods of time. Harrison is getting older and I think he's packing it up after this year, 'on his own terms.' Colston has been hurt so I wouldn't exactly doom his with the disappointment tag this year. So, to me, only two of those guys are actually disappointing. Marvin, because of age, and Braylon, with the Carlos Rogers disease. Everyone else but those two; I would call unfortunate.
TO isn't as uncoverable as he used to be, he isn't getting off the line like he used to. Even before the Romo injury he wasn't the same.
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Michael Huff was gonna have a pro bowl season at FS, nope. Like Charles Woodson said playing DB is a man's game in Oakland.

I wonder what his trade value his worth
I would not mind getting him off of your hands and going to the Falcons. I was so crazy about him draft time.
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-Rod Green (looked great last year but not this year)
-Walt Harris (I wish they would just put in Tarell Brown opposite Clements)
-Joe Nedney (early this season he had a few misses)
I agree with all, but honestly if it is Bryant Johnson that pushes the young guys like Morgan, and Hill to play well, then it was a good signing.

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Wasn't he already picked up by the Raiders?
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You can't be a good corner if no one throws your way. Thats my way of seeing it.
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Wasn't he already picked up by the Raiders?
Yeah he was, it will be interesting to see how he performs. Is there a good chance of him starting before long?
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I dunno even half of those guys why did we sign them jeez.
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I agree with all, but honestly if it is Bryant Johnson that pushes the young guys like Morgan, and Hill to play well, then it was a good signing.



I know that he would love to come across the bay :)
If Huff daddy goes anywhere it's gonna be to Dallas. :D
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