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Old 11-14-2008, 04:59 PM    (permalink
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Well you have to account for the fact Tebow has proven his skills as a football player for almost 3 years in one of the best conferences in the nation.
in an offense where he has absolutely no reads, im not saying alex was any different but his fundamentals were much much better
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I seriously think Tebow is destined for a Chris Cooley H-back type position.
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I seriously think Tebow is destined for a Chris Cooley H-back type position.
hes a good athlete so its possible. but the first time he tries to run over an NFL linebacker the way he does in college hes going to die.
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hes a good athlete so its possible. but the first time he tries to run over an NFL linebacker the way he does in college hes going to die.
He will learn. I have read that fullback is what he will be. I would use a first day pick on him and make him an H-back. He would bring a lot of flexability in what you can do.
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He will learn. I have read that fullback is what he will be. I would use a first day pick on him and make him an H-back. He would bring a lot of flexability in what you can do.
hes a good athlete and that will help him alot. he could be a good back up but i just dont see him being an elite QB in the NFL....he could bring some dimensions to the offense that would be different (trick plays ect.) idk..
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hes a good athlete and that will help him alot. he could be a good back up but i just dont see him being an elite QB in the NFL....he could bring some dimensions to the offense that would be different (trick plays ect.) idk..
They could put him at FB fake the run then he throws a jump pass.
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They could put him at FB fake the run then he throws a jump pass.
thatd be tight! i would enjoy seein that one
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1st round pick??? I don't even see a 5th round pick in him. He a worse prospect than Andre Woodson.
Haha!!! Not even close.
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If Newton or Locker succeed there are gonna be about 2 pages of material to look back on and poke fun at.
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Since we are taking a stroll down memory lane, here's an old blog I wrote about Freeman.

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With such a weak crop of senior quarterbacks everyone is wondering where the first round signal callers are going to come from. Most of the talk so far has centered around Matthew Stafford and Tim Tebow but there is another junior passer who has been generating quite a bit of buzz in the scouting community.

Josh Freeman of Kansas St.

One of the top recruits in the nation coming out of high school, Freeman originally committed to Nebraska before changing course and ending up at K-State. Physically Freeman has everything you look for in a top quarterback prospect, including outstanding size (6-6, 250), a big arm and above average athleticism. Freeman is still developing as a passer but he began to emerge as a very intriguing prospect as a sophomore in '07, completing 63% of his passes for 3,300 yards with an 18-to-11 TD to INT ratio. If he can continue to improve and make similar strides as a junior Freeman could enjoy a JaMarcus Russell-esque rise up pro draft boards.

Odds are Freeman will stay in school all four years and that would probably be a wise choice because he's not a finished product by any stretch of the imagination. With that said he has a special set of physical tools that already has some scouts drooling and even though he doesn't get nearly as much ink as some of the other signal callers in his class Freeman could eventually end up being just as good of a prospect. With all the attention quarterbacks get it's rare for one to fly under the radar but that might actually be the case with this guy.

Keep a close eye on Josh Freeman, if not for 2009 then definitely for 2010.
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The same Starheather that said Tony Pike was a better prospect than Sam Bradford?

Riiiiiiggghhhhtttt......
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This was a pretty funny thread to read...

I don't know enough about these guys to compare apples to oranges, but I'd say Freeman has acquitted himself better than Stafford (who can't stay healthy) and Sanchez (inconsistent at best, with a much better cast around him).
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In retrospect, I was paying way more attention to the numbers than the level of play he was bringing to the field. That's something I used to do waaaay too much of I think. Always liked the physical tools, thought he would be a solid second round pick that could end up developing into a franchise quarterback, but I had a hard time seeing him do so well in the NFL right away when everyone and their brother was putting up MASSIVE numbers in the Big XII(which was easily the worst conference in terms of pass defense the past five years, sans Texas) and he was struggling numerically.
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The same Starheather that said Tony Pike was a better prospect than Sam Bradford?

Riiiiiiggghhhhtttt......
Also that Terrence Cody was the best prospect in the draft. I used to really get into it with him. Again, in retrospect, stupid haha.
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i mean obviously i was joking but it is pretty ironic that starheather was in love with Pike, a guy who has a peashooter for arm
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i mean obviously i was joking but it is pretty ironic that starheather was in love with Pike, a guy who has a peashooter for arm
That would be a four page argument haha. Pike had the strongest arm in the draft, according to him. People believed him as well. Lots of people here were putting Pike in the first or second round that year.
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Great thread. Would read again.
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Funny stuff. I'm so proud of the progress Tebow has made. Josh Freeman too for that matter. I didn't know he had so many critics. He always seemed raw, but extremely talented.
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Funny stuff. I'm so proud of the progress Tebow has made. Josh Freeman too for that matter. I didn't know he had so many critics. He always seemed raw, but extremely talented.
Tebow has played well, but his mechanics are still sloppy. He still has that windup release and I thought he worked very hard to improve and get it shorter. I guess Mayock was right. When you're used to something for years, it's very hard to change it. But that is the biggest knock on him right now though. Not bad. I hope he improves.
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Tebow has played well, but his mechanics are still sloppy. He still has that windup release and I thought he worked very hard to improve and get it shorter. I guess Mayock was right. When you're used to something for years, it's very hard to change it. But that is the biggest knock on him right now though. Not bad. I hope he improves.
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1. Mayock is always right.
2. I, and hopefully nobody else, expected him to have perfect mechanics one year after completely changing his throwing motion. I think he will continue making strides. It did look like he was dropping the ball to his hip whilst he was QBing the Broncos. But I would still take him over Clausen and McCoy. Knowing what I know now, I would take Tebow over McCoy.
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2. I, and hopefully nobody else, expected him to have perfect mechanics one year after completely changing his throwing motion. I think he will continue making strides. It did look like he was dropping the ball to his hip whilst he was QBing the Broncos. But I would still take him over Clausen and McCoy. Knowing what I know now, I would take Tebow over McCoy.
I think I would take anybody of Clausen.
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