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Old 11-19-2008, 01:08 PM    (permalink
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exactly. TO has consistently produced most of his career.
ocho cinco has consistently produced most of his career.
steve smith has constantly produced most of his career.
jerry rice has constantly produced most of his career.

roddy white. sure. top 5 this year.
bernard berrian was a top 5 three years ago. was he ever again? no.

when you talk about tiers, you don't talk about 'right now'.
Why is Jerry Rice in the same paragraph as Chad Johnson and Steve Smith? They have not yet earned that honor.
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Why is Jerry Rice in the same paragraph as Chad Johnson and Steve Smith? They have not yet earned that honor.
Yeah do not bring Jerry down to their level.
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Bernard Berrian?
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Speaking of top WR's, a few days ago i was driving home from school, and i had the horrible luck of catching Keyshawn Johnson babbling away with Chris Mortensen on the sports bash (which they completely ruined). Both Key and Mort were talking on how Santana Moss was a equal or better than the following WR's:

Larry Fitzgerald, Brandon Marshall, Steve Smith, Chad Johnson, Terrell Owens, Anquan Boldin.

Just made me sick to my stomach. I turned the radio off quickly after hearing how Santana Moss and Steve Smith is a toss-up. Kuselias wasn't buying their BS, and he called them out, and Key went on how Moss was better, and after that i didn't listen.

I seriously hate those guys. Do they not watch any football? Do they just go by what the guys from NFL live show? Man i hate ESPN.
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Speaking of top WR's, a few days ago i was driving home from school, and i had the horrible luck of catching Keyshawn Johnson babbling away with Chris Mortensen on the sports bash (which they completely ruined). Both Key and Mort were talking on how Santana Moss was a equal or better than the following WR's:

Larry Fitzgerald, Brandon Marshall, Steve Smith, Chad Johnson, Terrell Owens, Anquan Boldin.

Just made me sick to my stomach. I turned the radio off quickly after hearing how Santana Moss and Steve Smith is a toss-up. Kuselias wasn't buying their BS, and he called them out, and Key went on how Moss was better, and after that i didn't listen.

I seriously hate those guys. Do they not watch any football? Do they just go by what the guys from NFL live show? Man i hate ESPN.
Although in this situation I don't agree they both certainly know much more about football than you could even dream of. Keyshawn was a #1 pick and played pro obviously he understands the game.
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Although in this situation I don't agree they both certainly know much more about football than you could even dream of. Keyshawn was a #1 pick and played pro obviously he understands the game.
Playing in the pros certainly qualifies you to know more than a fan about football. I mean, look at McNabb - he's a straight genius when it comes to football knowledge (outside of the whole not knowing you can tie thing, of course).
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Playing in the pros certainly qualifies you to know more than a fan about football. I mean, look at McNabb - he's a straight genius when it comes to football knowledge (outside of the whole not knowing you can tie thing, of course).
You're right, he's an idiot for not knowing that. But if you were given a version of an NFL playbook, who do you think would know more??? McNabb, or you?
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You're right, he's an idiot for not knowing that. But if you were given a version of an NFL playbook, who do you think would know more??? McNabb, or you?
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Although in this situation I don't agree they both certainly know much more about football than you could even dream of. Keyshawn was a #1 pick and played pro obviously he understands the game.
They might know more about playing the game, and how to run a route, but that means nothing when it comes to evaluating talent. Him being an ex player means absolutely nothing when differentiating a scrub from a star.
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You're right, he's an idiot for not knowing that. But if you were given a version of an NFL playbook, who do you think would know more??? McNabb, or you?
Definitely McNabb, no argument there. I don't really want to argue this because Keshawn simply stated his opinion and I think everyone has a right to do that ( especially if a company is going to pay you for your opinion :) ). But I think he went overboard in his argument and it's hard to validate his opinions simply by saying "he played the game".

I don't want to be "that guy" who always goes to statistics because I know the game is a lot more than that. But between Steve Smith, Larry Johnson & Anquan Boldin the statistics don't favor Santana Moss. If you compare all 4 player's, Moss doesn't lead a single receiving category that I can find.
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Who said Bernard Berrian was top five? Berrian has never had a thousand yard season, let alone be a top five receiver.
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Key has never been the brightest bulb on the tree either...
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Why is Jerry Rice in the same paragraph as Chad Johnson and Steve Smith? They have not yet earned that honor.
Well Jerry Rice's career has been about twice as long TO's, making his feat 2x as impressive.

And his career is done so theres no question debating that. TO still has a chance to trail off.
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Well Jerry Rice's career has been about twice as long TO's, making his feat 2x as impressive.

And his career is done so theres no question debating that. TO still has a chance to trail off.
I never said anything about TO not being deserving. His career speaks for itself.
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