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Old 11-20-2008, 11:42 AM    (permalink
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I definitely have pity for any player on the Raiders that's talented b/c their skills WILL be wasted.... With that said, I never really watched Bush in college, but even I know he isn't near as physical as his size would indicate. He is a big back with the mindset of a scat back. I look back to what the Jaguars did with Greg Jones. Jones was a HB at Florida State and now plays FB for the Jags and does a damn good job too. But, Jones is actually big AND physical. I feel bad for Bush b/c he could do good things with any other team as a 2nd option/short-yardage back, the Raiders are just too stubborn to see that.
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I wish the steelers would trade for Bush
That would make no sense at all...

Willie Parker, Rashard Mendenhall, and Mewelde Moore. What would he do there?
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That would make no sense at all...

Willie Parker, Rashard Mendenhall, and Mewelde Moore. What would he do there?
The new Bettis over there ?

Oddly enough they both have had very similar issues early in their career. Maybe when he finally gets dealt or released he too explodes onto the scene in his new home. That would suck for us Raider fans to see yet again another great talent let go only to find big success elsewhere.
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Old 11-20-2008, 12:23 PM    (permalink
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The new Bettis over there ?

Oddly enough they both have had very similar issues early in their career. Maybe when he finally gets dealt or released he too explodes onto the scene in his new home. That would suck for us Raider fans to see yet again another great talent let go only to find big success elsewhere.
Yeah, Chargers could offer less in the off season and get him, he would be great in the position and situation he would be in. It would be nice if that would happen lol
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Sounds to me like Michael Bush is just a ***** who is afraid of contact. There's nothing more irritating than a big back who plays soft.
That doesn't change the fact that they are wasting his talent at RB. He may be soft, but the raiders are still dumb.
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I wish the steelers would trade for Bush
Why? The steelers are fine at RB with Parker Moore Russell and Mendenhall will be back. The steelers don't need him.
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My feelings are that he's right to question this decision from the coaches, because they deserve to be questioned. However, this is a chance to get on the field. Step up, maybe learn something about the position, do what you have to do for now, and make the best of it. IMO he shouldn't have made this public. If his goal was to make it widely known so that if he hits FA he'll still have value as a HB, then it makes no sense. GMs know he's a running back, and that the Raiders are crazy. GMs will also know if a guy is willing to do whatever it takes to help his team win. If he's explaining it to the fans, that is also a dumb excuse. The fans know everything they need to know concerning how the Raiders handle players. No one in the black hole is going to go "Hey, why is Bush at FB? He must like playing there. What an idiot."
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Dude the 1 2 punch McFadden and Bush have is awesome and could turn elite, forget Fargas they should trade him hes kind of just an average guy wasting Bush's 2nd string spot. I am so scared they are gonna trade Bush when they need to trade Fargas.
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Old 11-21-2008, 06:14 AM    (permalink
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That would make no sense at all...

Willie Parker, Rashard Mendenhall, and Mewelde Moore. What would he do there?
that's right he'd end up in the same situation that he's all ready in.
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Houston needs to take him away from the Raiders.
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Old 11-21-2008, 09:58 PM    (permalink
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Good and bad news IMO.

Good:I mean he barely gets to see the field with McFadden and Fargas starting over him at RB so being a FB will get him more play time, he can be used for catching and blocking and we will have 2 good running threats on the field almost every play.

Bad: He will be one hell of a RB I think in the next few years. He has size, speed and hands to be a productive back. He was almost traded to the Chargers ( who can really use him since LT is getting old). So he might get delt this off season( I hope not), so we might be trying to find a way to use him some where else.

Solution to the problem?
Trade Fargas. Hes 28 or 29 now, he is injury prone and we might get good value from him. I could see a team trading a 4th or 5th maybe for him( maybe the Texans, Steelers, Eagles, Bengals, Patriots???). A McFadden/Bush combo should be deadly if they can live up to their hype. Both are young and complement each other good.
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Solution to the problem?
Trade Fargas. Hes 28 or 29 now, he is injury prone and we might get good value from him. I could see a team trading a 4th or 5th maybe for him( maybe the Texans, Steelers, Eagles, Bengals, Patriots???). A McFadden/Bush combo should be deadly if they can live up to their hype. Both are young and complement each other good.
I too prefer the McFadden / Bush combo to the McFadden / Fargas one for the next few years. I heart Huggy Bear but his new contract will hold up the development of a very promising complementary back in Bush who is ready to contribute on a more consistent basis to this offense.

One year wonder ? Fargas still must be prove the worth of his new contract and I'm just not sure he can do so going forward considering his age and the forthcoming emergence of Run DMC. Still a lot remains to be seen in this situation but it certainly isn't looking all that good.
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