Ravens Draft Discussion - Page 2

RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES · 12-17-2008, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanTaylorRIP

If Tsizzle leaves in Free Agency I know we love Barnes, but I'd love to draft Clint Sintim at the end of round 1. I think he'd be a carbon copy of Adalius Thomas but with even better pass rushing skills.

if we lose suggs ill cry

BmoreBlackByrdz · 12-17-2008, 03:01 PM

Yeah, hes a huge part of our D. I really doubt we let him go.

RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES · 12-17-2008, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BmoreBlackByrdz

Yeah, hes a huge part of our D. I really doubt we let him go.

yea just the thought of losing our lb suck i hate this part of franchises lol

SeanTaylorRIP · 12-17-2008, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BmoreBlackByrdz

Yeah, hes a huge part of our D. I really doubt we let him go.

Well you never know with whoever offers him the money. If say Arizona were to lose Dansby they'd offer the house to Tsizzle, and that would be awfully enticing for him to play back home, get paid like crazy, and play for a city which has such a renewed excitement in football.

RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES · 12-17-2008, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanTaylorRIP

Well you never know with whoever offers him the money. If say Arizona were to lose Dansby they'd offer the house to Tsizzle, and that would be awfully enticing for him to play back home, get paid like crazy, and play for a city which has such a renewed excitement in football.

i just dont understand why any def player would want to leave our def i mean money but if we offer him a sweet deal i mean why would you want to play on a bum def instead of the awesome one your on

SeanTaylorRIP · 12-17-2008, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES

i just dont understand why any def player would want to leave our def i mean money but if we offer him a sweet deal i mean why would you want to play on a bum def instead of the awesome one your on

Money and playing for your city are definitely legitimate reasons to move. NBA for example Joe Johnson had a perfect role on the high scoring perennial playoff Suns team but opted to take money in a porous Atlanta Hawks team where he could be a star. It's the same reason why Mark Tiexera would consider the Orioles and Nationals when The Redsox are offering good money and a favorable situation.

RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES · 12-17-2008, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanTaylorRIP

Money and playing for your city are definitely legitimate reasons to move. NBA for example Joe Johnson had a perfect role on the high scoring perennial playoff Suns team but opted to take money in a porous Atlanta Hawks team where he could be a star. It's the same reason why Mark Tiexera would consider the Orioles and Nationals when The Redsox are offering good money and a favorable situation.

yea i can understand that im just trying to not realize the fact that he could leave the ravens :(

BmoreBlackByrdz · 12-17-2008, 04:10 PM

what if we franchised him and then traded him for Boldin

I would have a ton of mixed thoughts. I'd be both excited and upset.

SeanTaylorRIP · 12-17-2008, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BmoreBlackByrdz

what if we franchised him and then traded him for Boldin

I would have a ton of mixed thoughts. I'd be both excited and upset.

I think Boldin is fine with being in Arizona now. Although as much as I love Tsizzle I'd trade him in a heartbeat for Boldin, I'd even throw in a pick if I had to. Boldin is one of a kind physical guy who would make Flacco 10x better. You just throw it to him and he does the rest of the work. As much as losing Sizzle would hurt as we have shown with Adalius we can replace our 3-4 LB's, a guy like Antwaan Barnes looks legit, or drafting a proven 3-4 backer like Clint Sintim. It's so much easier to replace a 3-4 OLB than to find a big time big receiver like Anquan Boldin. Just look at some of the best 3-4 OLB, James Harrison was undrafted and cut 4 times, Adalius was like a 6th rounder or something, Woodley, Tsizzle, Manny Lawson etc., were college DE's. This all is a dream though because we would never get Quan.

Ravens1991 · 12-17-2008, 09:59 PM

I would love Flacco+Boldin. I wouldnt mind us just trading a 1st for him, I believe he is 27 so he decent age, plus we know we are getting a pro bowl WR.

How would everyone feel if we go WR in the 1st 2 rounds then just go defense the rest of the way?

skinzzfan25 · 12-17-2008, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES

yea i can understand that im just trying to not realize the fact that he could leave the ravens :(

Well depending on other transactions and how much he could possibly land for. Loosing Suggs could get you guys a 2nd maybe solid 3rd rd comp pick.

Ravens1991 · 12-17-2008, 10:07 PM

a 3rd is the highest comp pick. and still we need suggs we can't lose him. Barnes is good but he cant be as good as suggs.

BmoreBlackByrdz · 12-17-2008, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravens1991

I would love Flacco+Boldin. I wouldnt mind us just trading a 1st for him, I believe he is 27 so he decent age, plus we know we are getting a pro bowl WR.

How would everyone feel if we go WR in the 1st 2 rounds then just go defense the rest of the way?

I wouldnt mind it, because with us finnally getting a potential franchise QB, it makes sense to give him a weapon, but 2 is even better. Add those 2 to Mark Clayton and D-will and you've got yourselves a pretty nice young WR core. And lets all get our minds of Anquan, its pains me to think about him as raven but knowing that Arizona has no interest letting him go :(

Ravens1991 · 12-17-2008, 10:26 PM

yea Anquan is wishful thinking.

I wouldnt mind spending a 1st or 2nd on a WR. Then maybe later on drafting a project. But we need youth on D at basically every position. so I say go BPA on defense after we pick up a WR.

RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES · 12-17-2008, 10:36 PM

i would do suggs for boldin

SeanTaylorRIP · 12-18-2008, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ravens1991

I would love Flacco+Boldin. I wouldnt mind us just trading a 1st for him, I believe he is 27 so he decent age, plus we know we are getting a pro bowl WR.

How would everyone feel if we go WR in the 1st 2 rounds then just go defense the rest of the way?

Well 1st round I'd love either DHB or Maclin, but I don't see worthy 2nd round talent. I'd like someone like Marko Mitchell at the end of the 3rd or early 4th. We did spend a 3rd on Marcus Smith last year, and while he's big and can block, he can't do much else.

jkpigskin · 12-18-2008, 11:03 AM

lets just find a brandon marshall or marques colston late in next years draft....

*sigh wishful thinking... those teams really found gems late in their drafts

RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES · 12-18-2008, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jkpigskin

lets just find a brandon marshall or marques colston late in next years draft....

*sigh wishful thinking... those teams really found gems late in their drafts

yea only if we were so lucky we only find gems on the def side of the ball i think we go wr 1st round or try to get one thats already established i think if flacco had a WR like (marshal,Colston) he would be so much better and it would compliment mason alot

BmoreBlackByrdz · 12-18-2008, 08:05 PM

If we did take a WR, say Heyward-Bey, isnt he more of a developmental pick? someone who will take time to turn out. Take Roddy White for example. Can we wait that long? I've always wanted 1st rounders to come in and produce right away and I don't think Heyward-Bey can do that. Also, I havent watched much of Jeremey Maclin but Im hearing hes more of a Devin Hester type WR. If he is anything close to Hester, I'd rather us take a corner or draft BPA. I want either a deep threat kinda guy like Heyward-Bey or a physical WR like Crabs. We've already got a "devin hester" type WR is Figurs.

SeanTaylorRIP · 12-18-2008, 08:08 PM

Well I wouldn't call Maclin "hester" or "ginn" like. He is much more polished in his route running and has a solid build. I think he'll be good. But this team has too many small wideouts. DHB is the guy if we go WR.

sbh15 · 12-18-2008, 08:41 PM

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Well I wouldn't call Maclin "hester" or "ginn" like. He is much more polished in his route running and has a solid build. I think he'll be good. But this team has too many small wideouts. DHB is the guy if we go WR.

And to add to that, DHB is not much of a project. He's not extremely polished or sharp, but he's got great size and speed that will definitely have an immediate impact.

SeanTaylorRIP · 12-18-2008, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sbh15

And to add to that, DHB is not much of a project. He's not extremely polished or sharp, but he's got great size and speed that will definitely have an immediate impact.

Yeah it might take him some time to polish the underneath routes but he will make an impact immediately in the vertical passing game. The intermediate routes will come with time but it's fine because Clayton and Dmase work the underneath game. Clayton could be playing in the slot which would be great for him.

BmoreBlackByrdz · 12-19-2008, 02:34 PM

Hmmm. Im starting to like what Im hearing about DHB. Speed demon, compliments Flaccos arm nicely. I wouldnt mind drafting him at all.

RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES · 12-19-2008, 02:37 PM

HWB all day but only if we get that CB in free agency

jkpigskin · 12-19-2008, 03:45 PM

seeing from what i saw from fabian washington... i think he can be a starter for us... as either a #1 or #2, but I would like to see a reciever as our #1 pick more so than a corner... thats just my opinion