2013 Canes

[MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)]

What about Cam Newton?

[djp]

Originally Posted by CutlerChris

What about Cam Newton?

He ain't good.

[MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)]

Oh, didnt realise that :p

So apparently my what my buddy told me about Marve was a little premature. Randy met with Marve's parents after my buddy told me that and supposedly it isn't pretty.

Marve wants to be here but Daddy wants him gone.

Sounds like he will transfer. I'm hearing everywhere from USF to Oklahoma.

I'd have to think it'd be a much smaller school tho.

Not alot of top 10 programs are lining up to take our problems players right now.

That's why USF makes the most sense to me.

[murdamal86]

Originally Posted by CutlerChris

What about Cam Newton?

nobody knows to be honest with you. i think he could be a aight QB but nothing to push UM over the hump. he's basically a clone of Harris but unproven

Originally Posted by murdamal86

nobody knows to be honest with you. i think he could be a aight QB but nothing to push UM over the hump. he's basically a clone of Harris but unproven

You do know Newton plays for the Gators and has nothing to do with Miami rite?

And how exactly is Newton a clone of Harris.

Harris looked very good as a true freshman this season and looks like he could be a 3 year starter at Miami.

Newton is a 3rd string QB for the Gators that will be lucky if him gets 3 starts for the Gators.

[MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)]

I think he was suggesting I thought Newton was transferring here. But I only brought him up because he was highly recruited and I would have thought been a major deterrent to Marve even though no one mentioned him here yet.

I know why you brought him up.

But I'm wondering why anyone would even have the notion that Newton is transferring here.

Aside from the fact we don't know if Newton even wants or will transfer, Randy Shannon does not take transfers to Miami.

[murdamal86]

Originally Posted by Joeyjr09

You do know Newton plays for the Gators and has nothing to do with Miami rite?

And how exactly is Newton a clone of Harris.

Harris looked very good as a true freshman this season and looks like he could be a 3 year starter at Miami.

Newton is a 3rd string QB for the Gators that will be lucky if him gets 3 starts for the Gators.

*smh* allow me to break it down for you:

we were talking about Robert Marve transferring to UF and i mentioned he'd be a fool to transfer here because we already have Brantley along with Reed and Burton on there way to Gainesville. Then he mentions Cam Newton cause i didn't mention him and for good reason since he's kicked off of the team for stealing the laptop and i was basically saying he's not something Miami would need at QB since he's the same style of QB as Harris is just unproven. and when i say same style i mean they are young, mobile, but both are developing as passers. Newton just has suffered from injuries and Brantley being a superior passer to him.

Originally Posted by murdamal86

*smh* allow me to break it down for you:

we were talking about Robert Marve transferring to UF and i mentioned he'd be a fool to transfer here because we already have Brantley along with Reed and Burton on there way to Gainesville. Then he mentions Cam Newton cause i didn't mention him and for good reason since he's kicked off of the team for stealing the laptop and i was basically saying he's not something Miami would need at QB since he's the same style of QB as Harris is just unproven. and when i say same style i mean they are young, mobile, but both are developing as passers. Newton just has suffered from injuries and Brantley being a superior passer to him.

Ok so on the flip side, let me break it down for you:

-Miami does not take transfers so why would we assume your talking about Newton transferring to Miami?

-Jacory Harris is NOT the same style of QB as Cam Newton. You mention they are both young, mobile and developing as passers. We that might be the case with Newton but not with Harris.

Harris is the complete opposite. He played in a shotgun offense in HS and his best skills as a QB are his touch and accuracy. His runnning? Not so much. He can move around and keep plays alive but he will never be a mobile QB that can make plays with his feet. As a passer, he's pretty developed considering his age. What he is learning is adjusting to a different style of offense that features much more then just shotgun HS sets.

Don't worrying tho, your not the 1st person to think Jacory can run and not throw. He tends to get that label because he is a black QB and doesn't have great arm strength while Marve gets the passer label because he's a white QB with a cannon.

But Marve is the bigger playmaker with his feet while Jacory is the much more polished passer.

[murdamal86]

Originally Posted by Joeyjr09

Ok so on the flip side, let me break it down for you:

-Miami does not take transfers so why would we assume your talking about Newton transferring to Miami?

-Jacory Harris is NOT the same style of QB as Cam Newton. You mention they are both young, mobile and developing as passers. We that might be the case with Newton but not with Harris.

Harris is the complete opposite. He played in a shotgun offense in HS and his best skills as a QB are his touch and accuracy. His runnning? Not so much. He can move around and keep plays alive but he will never be a mobile QB that can make plays with his feet. As a passer, he's pretty developed considering his age. What he is learning is adjusting to a different style of offense that features much more then just shotgun HS sets.

Don't worrying tho, your not the 1st person to think Jacory can run and not throw. He tends to get that label because he is a black QB and doesn't have great arm strength while Marve gets the passer label because he's a white QB with a cannon.

But Marve is the bigger playmaker with his feet while Jacory is the much more polished passer.

probably because the conversation didn't involve you that's why you assumed.

1. no Miami does not take transfers because nobody has been wanting to transfer to Miami that's worth a dang.

2. Harris IS developing as a passer and that's something that EVERYBODY knows and can agree on. nobody sitting here saying anything different. when did i ever say he COULD NOT throw? point that out for me please and no excuses, no twisting my words, all i want to see where i said he can't throw.

3. he IS mobile. you make it sound like i said that he was a running QB that's learning how to pass. when i said that he was mobile, i'm not comparing him to Robert Griffin and Tyrod Taylor. that's YOU bringing up people assume he's a playmaker with his feet because he's black and Marve is a pocket passer cause he's white cause i didn't.

[TimD]

Interesting debate haha.

[Hollywood]

I mentioned this in the bowl thread but I'll say it again - If Randy Shannon does not ax Patrick Nix I will have serious, serious doubts about him and his ability to lead Miami back to being Miami. It is an absolute must and if he doesn't do it, he should rightfully be on the hot seat next year and anything less than ACCCG appearance should put his job in Jeopardy.

[etk]

Dude, Shannon hired Nix in the first place, and held onto him for 2 years. That's 2 years too many. Bill Young did a pretty ******* below-average job this year too.

I'm not drinking the Shannon kool aid like a lot of you guys are....he can recruit and he's a respectable guy....but I'm not sure he's a winning HC.

[Hollywood]

Originally Posted by etk

Dude, Shannon hired Nix in the first place, and held onto him for 2 years. That's 2 years too many. Bill Young did a pretty ******* below-average job this year too.

I'm not drinking the Shannon kool aid like a lot of you guys are....he can recruit and he's a respectable guy....but I'm not sure he's a winning HC.

Nix was Shannon's third choice and he had his first two just about hired before they were swept away to better job offers - one to the NFL and the other got a promotion at the school he was at and then a head coaching job a year later.

I'm drinking the Kool Aid with Shannon only IF he makes the right move and axes Nix and brings in his original first choice - Dirk Koetter.

[murdamal86]

Originally Posted by Hollywood

Nix was Shannon's third choice and he had his first two just about hired before they were swept away to better job offers - one to the NFL and the other got a promotion at the school he was at and then a head coaching job a year later.

I'm drinking the Kool Aid with Shannon only IF he makes the right move and axes Nix and brings in his original first choice - Dirk Koetter.

i think he'll get a shot at Dirk Koetter because i don't think Jax will retain him beyond this season

[JoeyJr09]

Time to party.

Nix is fired.

Randy pulled the trigger quickly. Great move. Hes learning.

[draftguru151]

Oh happy day.

[etk]

Dude....a Zapdos sig? I don't know the inside joke but that's an epic sig.

[djp]

http://www.miami.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=894228

[djp]

No word on a replacement but Jimmy Johnson has said Randy told him they are going back to a complete pro-style offense.

Decision should come within the next week or 2.

Also hearing Swasey is going to the NFL with the Bucs with a S&C gig with them.

Rumblings that McGriff and Barrow are gone as well. But that's not confirmed or anything.

[etk]

McGriff and Barrow have done well....????

Swasey with the Bucs? What is Gruden thinking? As if we couldn't get any worse after losing to Oakland...

[RonnieRun23]

Whoa, I do not want to lose Barrow. McGriff i'd like to stay with, but wouldn't be heartbroken if he is let go. But losing Barrow? I think that would be a pretty big blow to recruiting...

[djp]

Originally Posted by etk

McGriff and Barrow have done well....????

Swasey with the Bucs? What is Gruden thinking? As if we couldn't get any worse after losing to Oakland...

McGriff is dog ****. Not one player in the secondary has gotten better since he's been here. I would be in favor of him leaving.

Barrow, I would be upset about losing and that would probably spell the end of the Browns (Arthur & Bryce) in Miami. I don't think that's going to happen.

[draftguru151]

Yea I wouldn't get/like Barrow leaving at all. I'm all in favor in getting a new DB coach, one that actually taught the DBs what to do when the ball was in the air.