Jerry Angelo says QB is Top Off-Season Priority - Page 3

Geo · 01-02-2009, 01:03 PM

Yeah, Orton looks better since then. Rex ...

regoob2 · 01-02-2009, 01:05 PM

I think Rex could succeed somewhere. His confidence is shattered here. It doesnt help that we boo him everytime he steps on the field.

MidwayMonster31 · 01-02-2009, 01:07 PM

At least Rex has cut back on his repeated strangling of small children.
Seriously though, Orton should be fine. Rex has been the same, inconsistent Rex that he was since last year. Orton had some bad habits since his ankle injury (that he came back way too early from). As long as he puts in the work during the offseason, he should be fine for next year.

bearsfan_51 · 01-02-2009, 01:18 PM

Rex's career is over. He'll be 29 when the season starts next year, 4 years older than Alex Smith. The developmental years are over. He's not going to change his mistakes.

regoob2 · 01-02-2009, 01:37 PM

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At least Rex has cut back on his repeated strangling of small children.
Seriously though, Orton should be fine. Rex has been the same, inconsistent Rex that he was since last year. Orton had some bad habits since his ankle injury (that he came back way too early from). As long as he puts in the work during the offseason, he should be fine for next year.

Orton played extremely well for a QB who starting in first full season with such little talent around him.

shady00 · 01-02-2009, 05:52 PM

We don't have to draft a QB round 1, we have bigger needs.

regoob2 · 01-02-2009, 06:40 PM

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We don't have to draft a QB round 1, we have bigger needs.

If Matt Stafford there Id take him.

TimD · 01-02-2009, 06:42 PM

The Jets will gladly take Orton.

Monomach · 01-02-2009, 07:14 PM

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The Jets will gladly take Orton.

I think Orton would be glad to go there, too.

That line, Coles, and Cotchery would be a hell of an upgrade from what he's dealing with now. There'd be no QB controversy if he had all of that around him.

shady00 · 01-02-2009, 11:23 PM

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If Matt Stafford there Id take him.

Stafford will not fall out the top 10, and I'm not sold on Bradford. I'd like Sanchez if he comes out--which doesn't seem likely.

When it comes to Freeman, just read Scott's feature on 2nd and 3rd round QB's; they're not worth it. If you're drafting a QB, he should be a 1st rounder and I don't see that happening this year.

dabears10 · 01-02-2009, 11:41 PM

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Stafford will not fall out the top 10, and I'm not sold on Bradford. I'd like Sanchez if he comes out--which doesn't seem likely.

When it comes to Freeman, just read Scott's feature on 2nd and 3rd round QB's; they're not worth it. If you're drafting a QB, he should be a 1st rounder and I don't see that happening this year.

I understand the point about not relying on a 2nd Rd QB to be successful for you, because there is a reason they fall to the 2nd. However, if it's a guy you feel that can succeed you draft him.
All that said, I hope we don't draft a QB unless Stafford falls.

bearsfan_51 · 01-02-2009, 11:55 PM

Scott.....yeah.....

VoteLynnSwan · 01-02-2009, 11:57 PM

Rhett Bomar is a guy i wouldn't mind taking at all... I figure if a number of juniors declare he'd be in the late 2nd, early third area. He's got all the tools, obviously there's the maturity issues, but he's a first round talent, and at least that way we wouldn't waste a first round pick on a guy who definitely won't start next year.

Smokey Joe · 01-03-2009, 10:25 AM

I think the maturity issues are overrated. He got screwed over by the store, they told him he didn't have to come into work and all that. How many 18-19 year old college students would turn down a free paycheck?

regoob2 · 01-03-2009, 12:43 PM

I would be very happy if we took Freeman in the 2nd. I think he can develop into a very good QB.

captainjack27 · 01-03-2009, 12:57 PM

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Rhett Bomar is a guy i wouldn't mind taking at all... I figure if a number of juniors declare he'd be in the late 2nd, early third area. He's got all the tools, obviously there's the maturity issues, but he's a first round talent, and at least that way we wouldn't waste a first round pick on a guy who definitely won't start next year.

I think I'd take freeman over Bomar if they were both available in the second. However, Bomar definitely is a guy I'd watch for in the coming months during his workouts.

VoteLynnSwan · 01-04-2009, 02:19 AM

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I think the maturity issues are overrated. He got screwed over by the store, they told him he didn't have to come into work and all that. How many 18-19 year old college students would turn down a free paycheck?

i didn't know the story actually, but regardless, it shows a lack of common sense, you have to know not to do something like that.

if he were there in the early third, i'd definitely attempt to trade up to get him.

TimD · 01-04-2009, 11:02 AM

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I think Orton would be glad to go there, too.

That line, Coles, and Cotchery would be a hell of an upgrade from what he's dealing with now. There'd be no QB controversy if he had all of that around him.

well coles is probably gone. but i'm assuming we look to get a WR in the draft or FA, so yeah

MidwayMonster31 · 01-04-2009, 04:22 PM

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i didn't know the story actually, but regardless, it shows a lack of common sense, you have to know not to do something like that.

if he were there in the early third, i'd definitely attempt to trade up to get him.

It was stupid of him to put himself in that position. But in his interview with Scott, he sounds like he's learned from it and moved on. If he's there in the third round, I would go for it.

Monomach · 01-04-2009, 06:18 PM

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It was stupid of him to put himself in that position. But in his interview with Scott, he sounds like he's learned from it and moved on. If he's there in the third round, I would go for it.

I think he's past that, too.

One thing everyone has to keep in mind is that he took that job when he was an academic sophomore. At least his stupid decision wasn't something like the stuff that's come out of Miami over the years. He probably learned his lesson from being banished to Sam "that really exists?" Houston State and losing millions of rookie contract dollars.

giantsfan · 01-04-2009, 06:26 PM

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Rex's career is over. He'll be 29 when the season starts next year, 4 years older than Alex Smith. The developmental years are over. He's not going to change his mistakes.

Jake Delhomme was a nobody until the panthers gave him a shot because htey had nothing at QB and he was around 29 when that happened. I could certainly see rex going to a bad team as the backup and impress if he cuts down on his aggressiveness, playing in a dome with a great running game would be huge for him. Potentially even taking over for a struggling starter someplace like St. Louis, Minnesota, Detroit, Jacksonville, Tennessee and maybe even Washington.

regoob2 · 01-04-2009, 06:27 PM

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Jake Delhomme was a nobody until the panthers gave him a shot because htey had nothing at QB and he was around 29 when that happened. I could certainly see rex going to a bad team as the backup and impress if he cuts down on his aggressiveness, playing in a dome with a great running game would be huge for him. Potentially even taking over for a struggling starter someplace like St. Louis, Minnesota, Detroit, Jacksonville, Tennessee and maybe even Washington.

I would love to see him end up in Det or Minny.

shady00 · 01-04-2009, 08:58 PM

I could definitely see us taking Tebow somewhere if he falls--after the 1st round of course.