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01-13-2009, 03:12 PM
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The Vikes issue isn't WR, its the supporting guys like TE's and FBs dropping easy check downs that hurts their drives more than anything..
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I disagree. Shinacoe came on very well at the end of the season.
Also, the problem is with the idiot who designs and calls those stupid check downs that have no chance of success. Chilly has, in fact, invented a prevent offense. He'll only go as far as Adrian Peterson and the defense can carry him. He's an awful coach. Please keep him around Speilman.
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01-13-2009, 03:29 PM
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I'd take Garcia over Cassell for a few reasons
1) Garcia knows the system (dpent a long time in Philly did a great job there)
2) He wouldn't cost a first and second pick. hell you could probobly give them Tavaris Jackson and a 3rd (exageration)but he wouldn't cost a 1st at his age then you can use the first on a diferent need.
3) His girlfriend is hot.
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oh please. as if canadians even know what beer is.
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01-13-2009, 03:30 PM
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Well A) A rookie QB takes one draft pick not 2+ and B)The rookie QB is usually drafted off of more than one season where they are surrounded by talent
And C)He will be 27 next year. He is closer to the age of Carson Palmer the last great USC QB than he is to a rookie.
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I said more draft picks if they were to trade up to draft one of the top QBs, which depending on whpo declares could be very likely. Thus, if they trade up they could in all likelyhood end up paying the rookie more than they would have paid Cassell.
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01-13-2009, 04:15 PM
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Garcia is a free-agent and since he hates Gruden he will gladly leave
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01-13-2009, 05:02 PM
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Again Garcia is not going to give the Vikings a franchise QB with his age.Maybe a year, but I dont see him performing all that much better then Jackson.
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01-13-2009, 05:07 PM
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Well we all saw this coming. I am not sure if Cassel is the guy to get them over the top, but he can't be any worse than what they have.
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I dunno even half of those guys why did we sign them jeez.
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01-14-2009, 04:32 PM
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I would take "only" one 11-5 NFL season with multiple 400+ yard games over four years of college starting experience any day.
The price is too steep of course.
Too steep to us who love draft picks yes,...
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The price isn't too steep. What did Cleveland give up to get Brady Quinn? At least a 1st & 2nd round pick. That was for a QB that had never played in the NFL. Plenty of teams trade away two first rounders for a QB (Broncos for Elway.)
As someone said, the Vikings are ready to win now. Honestly, if they had of had a half decent QB this year we would probably be looking at a Vikings/Cardinals championship game instead of a Eagles/Cards game.
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01-14-2009, 04:59 PM
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Again Garcia is not going to give the Vikings a franchise QB with his age.Maybe a year, but I dont see him performing all that much better then Jackson.
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I think Garcia would have been perfect for this year. God I wish we would have gotten him.
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01-14-2009, 06:12 PM
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The Vikes are really selling out to win now. Is there window really that small??
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01-14-2009, 06:37 PM
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The Vikes are really selling out to win now. Is there window really that small??
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See Williams, Pat.
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01-14-2009, 07:10 PM
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See Williams, Pat.
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He's not the entire team. Giving up another 1st and other picks is a lot.
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He's not the entire team. Giving up another 1st and other picks is a lot.
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I really think they are a QB away from making a serious run.
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Originally Posted by 49erNation85
I dunno even half of those guys why did we sign them jeez.
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01-14-2009, 09:43 PM
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I really think they are a QB away from making a serious run.
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I agree, that QB may or may not end up being Cassell, but an above-average QB would open up their passing game, which would only help their already potent running game, in addition to possibly adding years to AD's career.
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01-14-2009, 09:53 PM
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An above average Qb will prevent teams from simply stacking 8 men in the box. The saints game was just horrible to watch, AD did nothing.
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01-14-2009, 10:11 PM
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Garthia isn't the same QB anymore.
He won't be the guy that puts you over the bulge...err..hump.
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01-14-2009, 10:33 PM
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I second this. Please do it, for the Packers, Lions, and Bears fans everywhere.
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Yeah and if he pans out, Minny could be looking at these teams in their rear view mirror for a decade. It is a quite reasonable price to me if their scouts and GM think he is the real deal.
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