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Old 01-30-2009, 12:02 AM    (permalink
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Hence we need a big running back to spell injury-prone Gore. Andre Brown would be good, maybe J Johnson, that guy from liberty, im not sure about pj hill
If we got Weaver, we would have that power back. I would rather have a speed guy to spell Gore; i.e. Mike Goodson and Jeremiah Johnson.
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Big back to spell Gore, good speed and no miles on legs = Thomas Clayton. He's been waiting for his shot and maybe he now gets it.
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I really wanna see Clayton get a chance. I second the notion of getting Weaver.
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Some stuff (good and bad) on Rayehttp://blogs.mercurynews.com/49ers/2...ormer-players/



http://www.mercurynews.com/49ershead...nclick_check=1

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Eh, we will see with Raye. Hopefully he has been underused and restricted from using his full potential as a coach in the past and he uses this opportunity with the Niners as his coming out party, as his track record is not very impressive. I liked the compliment that he knows how to get the best out of his personnel.

I guess it's one of those situations where you have to be careful what you wish for...you might just get out. Bye bye Martz, hello Raye?

Bring on Clayton. I think it's exactly what the team needs to add to the running game. I can't believe Denver didn't pick him up last year when they were pulling RB's off the streets. He needs a chance to shine passed the preseason.
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i think clayton would be the best option, he shines when given a chance
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On those San Jose Mercury links, it sounds like they are just writing articles based on what they are reading elsewhere. Matt Barrows has already spoken on Raye on the phone and talked about how he's been in contact with Singletary since the search for an OC started...

As for Clayton, if no other team has signed Clayton off the practice, then obviously they know something we don't.
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On those San Jose Mercury links, it sounds like they are just writing articles based on what they are reading elsewhere. Matt Barrows has already spoken on Raye on the phone and talked about how he's been in contact with Singletary since the search for an OC started...

As for Clayton, if no other team has signed Clayton off the practice, then obviously they know something we don't.
That's the other thing I was going to say. With his talent if he isn't on the roster there is a reason.
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That's the other thing I was going to say. With his talent if he isn't on the roster there is a reason.
We've had him around for 2 years so the problem cant be too big, we thought enough of him to get him on the roster when Gore went down late in the year. The kid will come cheap and we dont need to use a draft pick.
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Yep, Clayton deserves to be the primary backup to Gore. We need to address our other issues and worry about backup RB next year.
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Did anybody see this: http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs...es/019102.html

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Very interesting KNBR interview yesterday with Jim Trotter, the SI reporter who, along with Adam Schefter, broke the news about the Jimmy Raye hire Wednesday evening. According to Trotter, before Mike Singletary made his final choice for offensive coordinator, he brought the two finalists, Raye and Hue Jackson, and had them sit down and talk football with the rest of his assistants, both offensive and defensive. After the session, Singletary then asked the assistants to make a choice. According to Trotter, it was unanimous in favor of Raye.
I like how Singletary let his staff voice an opinion in the matter, even if he was going to take Raye to begin with.
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Yep, Clayton deserves to be the primary backup to Gore. We need to address our other issues and worry about backup RB next year.
If we're really going to be a run first team, it might make sense to invest a relatively high pick on a RB to have a nice 1-2 combo.
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If we're really going to be a run first team, it might make sense to invest a relatively high pick on a RB to have a nice 1-2 combo.
It'd be nice, but we have greater needs and RB is always a deep position if you build the right supporting cast/scheme around it.
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I think it's pretty obvious that the greatest need in our backfield right now is our FB of the future.

The FB is really going to make this offense run, ala Tony Richardson in KC. Hopefully we pickup Quinn Johnson, bc from what he showed in Sr. bowl he should get drafted at a good spot by us.

Johnson seems like the devastating lead blocker and short yardage specialist that could really help us out.
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I think it's pretty obvious that the greatest need in our backfield right now is our FB of the future.

The FB is really going to make this offense run, ala Tony Richardson in KC. Hopefully we pickup Quinn Johnson, bc from what he showed in Sr. bowl he should get drafted at a good spot by us.

Johnson seems like the devastating lead blocker and short yardage specialist that could really help us out.
Weaver's a better pickup imo, doesn't sacrifice a draft pick...
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Leonard Weaver would be a huge win but I think someone like Quinn Johnson would be good. I would just prefer Weaver, especially since I'd rather him be a Niner than somewhere else and helping another RB beat us.
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It'd be nice, but we have greater needs and RB is always a deep position if you build the right supporting cast/scheme around it.
If we're going to be this run offense that Singletary wants i think getting a mauling RT is a big focus. But RB is a big need if that's the case. I wouldn't take a RB at pick 10 but i wouldn't be surprised if we considered a RB as high as our 2nd round pick.
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As we go forward and free agency and all of the other things, well have to sit down when the time is right and look at that and deal with that. But I really think that in looking at Jimmy Raye and what he brings to our organization, Im just excited about him talking about our offense from the front of the offensive line to the quarterback to the running back and really looking at how everybody plays a part in that. Not just the quarterbacnk. For right now, I feel very good about Shaun Hill and well have to see what happens with Alex Smith, and well have to go from there.

could sing be dodging the question here? i mean it's like he hasnt realy sweated smith at all here.
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For right now, I feel very good about Shaun Hill and well have to see what happens with Alex Smith, and well have to go from there.
I think all he's saying is that Shaun's his guy (at least it seems implied) and when he says "we'll have to see what happens" he's probably just alluding to how Alex needs to restructure if he wants to come back next year. I dont think it's anything that requires 'reading between the lines.'
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We'll never no whats happening behind the scenes but Coach Sing cant come out singing the praises of Alex in public until his deal gets restructured. Doing so would just drive up Alex's bargaining position and salary.

Its smart to be as non committal as possible until everything is finalised.
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Weaver would be an awesome pickup, but I would love Quinn Johnson as a consulation prize.
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It'd be nice, but we have greater needs and RB is always a deep position if you build the right supporting cast/scheme around it.
We're always going to have other needs than second runningback, but i think in the longterm view, it makes sense to get a second starter type back now. It could possibly extend Frank's career, would keep both of our RBs fresher as the season went on, and would give other teams someone else to have to gameplan against. I think it makes tons of sense, actually... I don't think I'd want us to spend our first round pick on an RB unless we traded down (and in that case I'd want Knowshon, NOT Beanie Wells) but in the 2nd and 3rd rounds? Yeah, I think it would be a smart pick. In fact, I wish we'd done something like this last year-- Ray Rice would look good in scarlet and gold.

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Quinn cant catch or run with the ball. All he does is block. If they got Weaver it would bring another threat and that short yardage guy we need, along with his blocking.
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If we look for a FB in Free Agency, keep an eye out for Tony Richardson. He's worked with Raye before and is a UFA. Wherever he goes, the running offense shines. He was with KC (under Raye). He was blocking for Adrian Peterson his rookie year. And he was with the Jets this year, paving the way for Thomas Jones and Leon Washington. He's one of the best lead blockers in the game.
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