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Old 01-27-2009, 11:17 AM    (permalink
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Yeah, he's really good against the run. He was atrocious in pass defense.
Fixed it for you. Last season he was atrocious, at the beginning of this season he was bad, and now he is mediocre. Still below average, but not horrible anymore. He is the first LB out in passing situations, so it isn't a big deal anyway. Not a huge deal I should say, but his presence in the run game more than makes up for it.
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Fixed it for you. Last season he was atrocious, at the beginning of this season he was bad, and now he is mediocre. Still below average, but not horrible anymore. He is the first LB out in passing situations, so it isn't a big deal anyway. Not a huge deal I should say, but his presence in the run game more than makes up for it.
No, he still sucks in pass coverage.
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He did? Wow, I didn't even know that. Either way he deserved it. The Eagles fans saying he is the MVP of the defense this year is no joke. Dawk was the emotional leader, but Mikell was a force on the field.
2nd Team All-Pro. Reed and Polamalu were 1st Team, and Nick Collins and Mikell were 2nd Team.
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Exactly my point, he was 2nd team all-pro and we still have guys like etk saying he's not an impressive football player.
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All I have to say is that I'm glad that there's some love for Quentin Jammer. Besides having stone hands, the guy is really one of the best corners in the league.
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The Pro Bowl is all about statistics or "legacy". Tanard Jackson doesn't have the opportunities that most safeties have (stats) but he does everything that's asked of him and more. Replace Mikell with him and you have a better defense because he's more talented.
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Hooray Lawrence Timmons!!!!!!
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His whole game is reliant on the big play. Can't ever be an effective full time starter. Fits well in a complementary role.
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QB: Aaron Rodgers - I know many will call me a homer but what happened during the off-season many thought, not including Packer fans, he would fall under the pressure and fail and not only did he have to play with half of the state of Wisconsin booing him but he also had to play after a HOF. He did this all and had a better season then Favre a year before. Many don't even consider him in the top 5 for the young qb group.

RB: Joseph Addai, Indianapolis Colts
RB: Vonta Leach, Houston Texans
WR: Lance Moore, New Orleans Saints
WR: Dewayne Bowe, Kansas City Chiefs
TE: John Carlson, Seattle Seahawks
LT: Donald Penn, Tampa Bay Buccaners
LG: Ben Hamilton, Denver Broncos
OC: Samson Satele, Miami Dolphins
RG: Brandon Moore, New York Jets
RT: Tyson Clabo, Atlanta Falcons

RE: Derrick Burgess, Oakland Raiders
DT: Kyle Williams, Buffalo Bills
DT: Barry Cofield, New York Giants
LE: Jimmy Wilkerson, Tampa Bay Buccaners
WILL: Justin Durant, Jacksonville Jaguars
MIKE: Will Witherspoon, St. Louis Rams
SAM: Thomas Howard, Oakland Raiders
CB: Marlin Jackson, Indianapolis Colts
FS: Oshiomogho Atogwe, St. Louis Rams
SS: Yeremiah Bell, Miami Dolphins
CB: Roderick Hood, Arizona Cardinals

DE: Justin Smith, San Francisco 49ers
NT: Kelly Gregg, Baltimore Ravens
DE: Antonio Smith, Arizona Cardinals
OLB: Jyles Tucker, San Diego Chargers
ILB: Karlos Dansby, Arizona Cardinals
ILB: Channing Crowder, Miami Dolphins
OLB: Jarret Johnson, Baltimore Ravens

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Old 01-29-2009, 07:56 AM    (permalink
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The Pro Bowl is all about statistics or "legacy". Tanard Jackson doesn't have the opportunities that most safeties have (stats) but he does everything that's asked of him and more. Replace Mikell with him and you have a better defense because he's more talented.
This is Mikell's first season as a starter, so his "legacy" is even less than Jackson. I don't know what point your trying to make with that post...

In no way am i bashing Tanard Jackson, he is a great player in his own right, but even if I wasn't an Eagles fan I would tell you that Mikell was deserving of whatever accolades he got, and more.
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I think other than Steelers fan Ryan Clark didn't hit the spotlight till the playoffs, some of his hits are disgusting
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Packmann, if you want to put a Rams LB or DB on that list it has to be Pisa Tinoisamoa at WLB and Ron Bartell at CB...everyone in STL rides O.J. nuts and Witherpoon is good but Pisa was finally healthy and as damn good
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K Jeff Reed. Doesn't get the pub as other top kickers, but I believe he is one of the best. Other kickers have a hard time kicking at Hienz and he makes those. I believe he truely is underrated.

Also, Ryan Clark is underrated as well. Real good football player and I am glad the Redskins let him go for Adam Archuleta.
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Chad Greenway should definately be on this list. He really stepped up when E.J. got hurt
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Good call, can't remember a young player coming into so much off the field pressure and playing so damn well as a first time starter. 32 total TDs? That's impressive.
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PACKmanN, how do you figure Addai is underrated? if anything IMO he's overrated just a little bit. Since his rookie season his YPC has went down, he only averaged 3.5 ypc last year which is below average. And his longest run in 416 carries (2 seasons) is 23 yards.
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Eww at Kawika Mitchell. He's average.
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PACKmanN, how do you figure Addai is underrated? if anything IMO he's overrated just a little bit. Since his rookie season his YPC has went down, he only averaged 3.5 ypc last year which is below average. And his longest run in 416 carries (2 seasons) is 23 yards.
He is a solid running back but people consider him below average. Plus I don't think he has been healthy since his rookie year and when he is healthy I see a solid back.
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