NBA Discussion Thread

[ccB]

Originally Posted by D-Unit

Don't believe everything you read. A lot of it is posturing as well. They are simply communicating what they want relayed to their competition.

Otis is a good GM. He hasn't made a single mistake yet. Have faith.

They need to make some sort of move if they want to make a serious run. Right now they are falling out of playoff contention and they need something to get them playing good again.

[ccB]

Originally Posted by DLS42

he can dunk?

Hes like 6'10 of course he can dunk.

[Eaglez.Fan]

DAMNIT :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

[ccB]

Cavs win on the Varejao put back.....Youll see that one on Sportscenter tonight.

Originally Posted by Charm City Byrdgang

Hes like 6'10 of course he can dunk.

I wasnt aware. that 7'9 chinese guy cant dunk. i judt thought he was like that guy.

[D-Unit]

Originally Posted by Charm City Byrdgang

I think the magic need a trade. Otherwise they arent going nowhere but down.

Give me Mike Bibby and Kevin Martin for Grant Hill and Jameer Nelson. Trade makes total sense.

[M.O.T.H.]

Well if the Magic dont make a move, we do have something to fall back on.

The much anticipated return of Trevor Ariza.



That being said... i still would be more comfortable making a move... as long as it didnt involve... Nelson, Darko, or Ariza.

[M.O.T.H.]

Originally Posted by D-Unit

Give me Mike Bibby and Kevin Martin for Grant Hill and Jameer Nelson. Trade makes total sense.

Jameer was really disappointing me this season, he looked exceptional at time last season. Luckily he's starting play well again.

As for guys, i'm willing to let go...

Hill... oft-injured, expiring contract

Turkoglu... Awful decision making this season, having an awful season, Ariza will probably start as early as next year

Redick... Can't make his own shot, zero defensive ability, I like him but, if he was the key to get a Reshard Lewis or a Gerald Wallace... It wouldnt pain me to see him go.

Arroyo... Great player but, Diener's potential makes him expendable, IMO.

Then the obvious role players are expendable... Outlaw, Garrity,

[Brodeur]

Originally Posted by Charm City Byrdgang

Hes like 6'10 of course he can dunk.

He's probably just used to Varejao flopping.

Originally Posted by Brodeur

He's probably just used to Varejao flopping.

I did watch him play as much as i would watch his hair.

[ccB]

Wow bucks make up a 6 pt deficit with 20 some seconds on the clock. Michael Redd made a lay up than Charlie Bell just stole an imbound pass and hit a 3 to tie the game.

[D-Unit]

Originally Posted by M.O.T.H.

Well if the Magic dont make a move, we do have something to fall back on.

The much anticipated return of Trevor Ariza.



That being said... i still would be more comfortable making a move... as long as it didnt involve... Nelson, Darko, or Ariza.

He's our Bob Sanders.

[M.O.T.H.]

Originally Posted by D-Unit

He's our Bob Sanders.

:D

Only a week and half away.

[M.O.T.H.]

Damn Ginobli had 40 tonight.

Surprise, surprise the only players scoring on the magic are Howard and Nelson. Howard has 22 and 13 and Jameer has 14 points. Perhaps this could show Otis how we really stack up against the East's elite. Start hitting the phones. :D

[D-Unit]

Originally Posted by M.O.T.H.

Jameer was really disappointing me this season, he looked exceptional at time last season. Luckily he's starting play well again.

As for guys, i'm willing to let go...

Hill... oft-injured, expiring contract

Turkoglu... Awful decision making this season, having an awful season, Ariza will probably start as early as next year

Redick... Can't make his own shot, zero defensive ability, I like him but, if he was the key to get a Reshard Lewis or a Gerald Wallace... It wouldnt pain me to see him go.

Arroyo... Great player but, Diener's potential makes him expendable, IMO.

Then the obvious role players are expendable... Outlaw, Garrity,

Uh ah. Turk is a playa. He makes mistakes, but he's playing in the wrong role. He should be a 6th man. That's how he worked best in Sacramento. He's our Boris Diaw. He starts because Ariza is still young. Ariza will be our Shawn Marion when he blossoms. ;) Redick is also a keeper... unless he gets us one of those 2 players. Arroyo is our best PG. Sad but true. Diener's potential? What is that?

Nelson has to go.

[ccB]

Originally Posted by D-Unit

Uh ah. Turk is a playa. He makes mistakes, but he's playing in the wrong role. He should be a 6th man. That's how he worked best in Sacramento. He's our Boris Diaw. He starts because Ariza is still young. Ariza will be our Shawn Marion when he blossoms. ;) Redick is also a keeper... unless he gets us one of those 2 players. Arroyo is our best PG. Sad but true. Diener's potential? What is that?

Nelson has to go.

Yeah I was about to say before Diener is nothing special. Hes an undersized SG trying to make it as a PG. Arroyo is better by alot. Arroyo is a true PG too.

[M.O.T.H.]

Originally Posted by D-Unit

Uh ah. Turk is a playa. He makes mistakes, but he's playing in the wrong role. He should be a 6th man. That's how he worked best in Sacramento. He's our Boris Diaw. He starts because Ariza is still young. Ariza will be our Shawn Marion when he blossoms. ;) Redick is also a keeper... unless he gets us one of those 2 players. Arroyo is our best PG. Sad but true. Diener's potential? What is that?

Nelson has to go.

Granted it was the pre season but, did you get see any of them? Diener was lighting everyone up. Throwing down 20+ everynight and 6+ assists. Teams have come calling but, Otis holds in him in high regard, too bad we dont play him. I do agree that Arroyo has been the better of the two (in comparison to Nelson) this season but, he isnt that great a decision maker either... i could do without both to be honest. I also agree Turk should be a sixth man and yeah he doesnt really fit well playing the two. I was liking our situation a lot more at the end of last season... what happened? ugh.

Comparing us to the Suns D... :D

[thetedginnshow]

If the Magic gave us Nelson, Redick, and an expiring contract, I'd definitely give up Rashard.

[M.O.T.H.]

More Magic...

I really dont think Brian Hill is the right man to coach this team.
Our offense is too damn methodical and he depends too much on the two point guard offense. I mean seriously... we have two of the biggest/strongest men in the league in Dwight and Darko... just get the big men the ball. Gotta play inside out, it will open up the threes and the mid range jumpers... we do have some exceptional shooters on this team, it's about time we use them to there strengths. We would be so much better than we are now.

[D-Unit]

Originally Posted by thetedginnshow

If the Magic gave us Nelson, Redick, and an expiring contract, I'd definitely give up Rashard.

LOL... Why would the Magic do that? Rashard is going to opt out this summer. They can get him without giving up any players.

[thetedginnshow]

Originally Posted by D-Unit

LOL... Why would the Magic do that? Rashard is going to opt out this summer. They can get him without giving up any players.

Well, you'd have the security of getting him for sure opposed to assuming you could get him in the off-season, considering the Magic don't have first dibs on everyone. I was just bringing it up because I saw talk about Nelson and Redick being expendable and Rashard's name being brought up.

[D-Unit]

Originally Posted by M.O.T.H.

More Magic...

I really dont think Brian Hill is the right man to coach this team.
Our offense is too damn methodical and he depends too much on the two point guard offense. I mean seriously... we have two of the biggest/strongest men in the league in Dwight and Darko... just get the big men the ball. Gotta play inside out, it will open up the threes and the mid range jumpers... we do have some exceptional shooters on this team, it's about time we use them to there strengths. We would be so much better than we are now.

I hated the Hill signing from the start. Who rehires someone they fired in the past??? It's unprecedented!

[M.O.T.H.]

Originally Posted by D-Unit

I hated the Hill signing from the start. Who rehires someone they fired in the past??? It's unprecedented!

Agreed.

[D-Unit]

Originally Posted by thetedginnshow

Well, you'd have the security of getting him for sure opposed to assuming you could get him in the off-season, considering the Magic don't have first dibs on everyone. I was just bringing it up because I saw talk about Nelson and Redick being expendable and Rashard's name being brought up.

Actually, you don't really get security because he can opt out even after they trade for him. Which is the most likely scenario for any team that would trade for him.

Yeah, the Magic don't get first dibs, but the cap allows them to pick and choose their targets.

The Magic are better off staying put unless a really good deal is offered.

[thetedginnshow]

Well, then you could sign him long-term, but I see what you're saying.

In any case, it's all just wishful thinking. I know the Sonics will only find ways to make themselves worse, most likely by doing nothing with Rashard and then letting him walk.