San Francisco 49ers Discussion - Page 70

ninerfan · 02-28-2009, 06:05 PM

Got to say I've liked what we've done so far. Not over spending on 2nd hand players was my biggest concern. Nice to have Norris and Spikes back and Jones intrigues me. Love to get some OL depth (starter) if its out there.

Brent · 02-28-2009, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GMoney

I believe I read somewhere that Jones ran a 4.38 recently.

That is deep threat speed if your asking me.

I agree that this is a good safe signing. 3 mill a year is not much to be paying a guy who MAY be a #2 or #3 WR.

What has happened to Battle. He seems to be very unliked recently. No love for Battle at #3 anymore? Is JHill a #2? Can morgan beat #1 corners?

He ran that at the combine when he was coming out of college. Battle was the best WR on the team when the team was crappier than we are now. The talent on this team is finally starting to reach a level that is comparable to other teams in the league, and thus he's losing out to younger and more talented guys.

WhatWouldBillyBajemaDo? · 02-28-2009, 06:32 PM

Warner coming to town:

http://blog.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/...ers-radar.html

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Warner is scheduled to visit the 49ers, perhaps on Monday, according to sources close to the situation.

Sunday is the big day, if Canty and Warner go unsigned, both will be here sometime this week.

Menardo75 · 02-28-2009, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Brent

He ran that at the combine when he was coming out of college. Battle was the best WR on the team when the team was crappier than we are now. The talent on this team is finally starting to reach a level that is comparable to other teams in the league, and thus he's losing out to younger and more talented guys.

I still think Battle is our best slot option on this team. It is nice to finally have a young talented receiving corps though.

abaddon41_80 · 02-28-2009, 06:47 PM

Ray Willis (Seahawks) and Khalif Barnes (Jaguars) are both still available to solidify the right tackle position. Both are only 27 and pretty good right tackles.

Menardo75 · 02-28-2009, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by abaddon41_80

Ray Willis (Seahawks) and Khalif Barnes (Jaguars) are both still available to solidify the right tackle position. Both are only 27 and pretty good right tackles.

From what I have heard we have no interest in Barnes. I have not heard a thing about Willis.

BandwagonPunditry · 02-28-2009, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by WhatWouldBillyBajemaDo?

Warner coming to town:

http://blog.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/...ers-radar.html

Sunday is the big day, if Canty and Warner go unsigned, both will be here sometime this week.

Disaster...

Brent · 02-28-2009, 08:27 PM

I would be shocked if they signed Warner. I bet his agent is using that to push negotiations with the Cards, which is fine with me as it would hurt the Cards.

Menardo75 · 02-28-2009, 09:31 PM

I am not so sure I would want Canty. We just drafted Balmer and have Justin Smith. I want to see Ray continue to develope as well.

GMoney · 02-28-2009, 11:14 PM

I agree,

I really dont see the need to get a DE at all. We have 2 LE (Soap and Balmer) we have 2 RE (Smith and McDonald) and we have an NT (Franklin).

Maybe they feel they need to go 2 quality players deep at each spot. In which case a Canty/Olshansky would allow Soap to move to NT.

If they sign a DE though, you can almost eliminate Raji from the draft board. No way we are going to keep 7 quality DL on a team that runs a 3-4. Just plain silly.

Haralson98 · 03-01-2009, 12:06 AM

The signing of Brandon Jones was pretty good but I think I would rather of them get Devery Henderson. Either way, He's a legitimate WR that didn't cost much to bring in.

edgrenade · 03-01-2009, 12:12 AM

The whole Warner thing might be a diabolical scheme by Scotty Mac so that Warner takes up too much of the Cardinal's cap space.

Menardo75 · 03-01-2009, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by edgrenade

The whole Warner thing might be a diabolical scheme by Scotty Mac so that Warner takes up too much of the Cardinal's cap space.

I bet that's what it is. Oh and Devery can't catch so i'm glad we didn't get him :).

CJSchneider · 03-01-2009, 04:19 AM

Watch it about Devery Henderson pal, :)

BandwagonPunditry · 03-01-2009, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Brent

I would be shocked if they signed Warner. I bet his agent is using that to push negotiations with the Cards, which is fine with me as it would hurt the Cards.

I imagine so, and whilst Lienart might work out, the Cards have to be terrified at the prospect of losing him to a division rival, but the visit has me spooked. I can just see one of those shock signings coming...

phlysac · 03-01-2009, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by GMoney

No way we are going to keep 7 quality DL on a team that runs a 3-4. Just plain silly.

I, originally shared that thought. After looking into a bit more, I was shocked to realize how many DE's the 3-4 teams have been carrying...

Dolphins
Vonnie Holiday
Kendall Langford
Philip Merling
Rodrique Wright
Lionel Dotson
Randy Starks

Jets
Shaun Ellis
Kenyon Coleman
Mike DeVito
CJ Mosely

Browns
Corey Williams
Shaun Smith
Louis Leonard
Santonio Thomas
Chase Pittman
Robaire Smith

Steelers
Aaron Smith
Brett Keisel
Travis Kirschke
Nick Eason
Orpheus Roye
Kyle Clement
Scott Paxson

Chargers
Igor Olshansky
Luis Castillo
Jacques Cesaire
Ryon Bingham
Keith Grennan
Ian Scott

Cowboys
Marcus Spears
Chris Canty
Jason Hatcher
Stephen Bowen
Marcus Dixon

49ers
Justin Smith
Ray McDonald
Isaac Sopoaga
Kentwan Balmer

As you can see, only the Jets have as few DE's and I was being generous in including Sopoaga as a DE because he's still listed as a NT on the depth chart.

49ersfan_87 · 03-01-2009, 01:06 PM

Maiocco reported the 49ers will be bringing in Demetric Evans on Monday. He should be pretty cheap and he will be depth as a 3-4 DE. With him coming on monday though im curious, would McCloughan move Balmer or Sopo to NT? I know there was some talk of moving Balmer over right after he was drafted last year. We run a 1 gap attacking 3-4 instead of the traditional 2 gap 3-4 so we're not exactly looking for a fat space eating NT, so it might be possible that Sopo/Balmer move over. We'll see though.

For 3-4 DE depth, i would have preferred Olshanky from San Diego, but if Manusky isn't pulling for him (Manusky was the LB coach in SD with Olshanky where they ran a similar defense) then it might be best to stay away. Canty is obviously the prize DE but we just signed Smith last year, it doesnt make sense to sign a 3-4 DE to a big deal 2 years in a row.

Brent · 03-01-2009, 02:12 PM

I think if anyone moves over to NT, it's Sopo. He's 6'2" 330lbs and Balmer is 6'5" 315lbs, which would make Balmer a bit tall for a NT.

phlysac · 03-01-2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Brent

I think if anyone moves over to NT, it's Sopo. He's 6'2" 330lbs and Balmer is 6'5" 315lbs, which would make Balmer a bit tall for a NT.

Wouldn't it just be much easier to leave the players where they fit best, i.e.

Justin Smith, Ray McDonald, Isaac Sopoaga, and Kentwan Balmer as the DE's and DRAFT A NOSE TACKLE? Why keep switching guys because "they could play NT, but they are best suited at DE"? Get a NT and that's that. :shrug: I guess it's just alot more difficult to get a good NT than it is to get a good DE.

Brent · 03-01-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by phlysac

Wouldn't it just be much easier to leave the players where they fit best

I would be but it's hard to find a good NT. As more time passes, as much as I would like to see someone like Everette Brown or Orakpo be the pick at 10, OT feels like the most likely selection. There isn't a guarantee on Raji and paying that kind of money to a NT probably isnt something the organization wants to do. At least with the selection of someone like one of those top 4 OTs, you have flexibility to move Staley or keep him at LT and, nowadays, both OT positions are starting to become almost equal in importance.

49ersfan_87 · 03-01-2009, 05:48 PM

I'm still holding hope that we can draft Raji at 10. NT depth chart would be Raji, Franklin, and Sopo/Balmer in emergencies.

BTW, assuming this isnt a ploy, what are everyone's thoughts on signing Warner?

BandwagonPunditry · 03-01-2009, 05:56 PM

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BTW, assuming this isnt a ploy, what are everyone's thoughts on signing Warner?

If Martz were still here I'd begin to be worried but generally I'm hopeful that it's a ploy by his agent to drive up the deal with the Cards.

edit: Sorry, just realised what you meant.

I think he'd be a shadow of last year, especially as we're going to be run-first with a still developing WR core and he's just come from a none-existant run game where he had Fitz and Boldin and even the third WR got 1000 yards. It'd be a mistake to pay his asking price for someone who wouldn't be well used in the system Singletary wants to run...

Brent · 03-01-2009, 06:24 PM

It would be a failure because he's got a bum hand and being under center would only exacerbate that.

WhatWouldBillyBajemaDo? · 03-01-2009, 07:03 PM

49ers showing interest in Marques Douglas:
http://blogs.nbcsports.com/home/arch...ng-some-i.html

abaddon41_80 · 03-01-2009, 07:17 PM

I wouldn't mind bringing him back for a year or two if the price is low. He knows the 3-4 DE position well and could mentor the younger guys and I think he is still a very good 3-4 DE himself.