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Old 03-08-2009, 02:29 PM    (permalink
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Personally, Crabtree is very low on my list.

1. Jason Smith
2. Aaron Curry
3. Andre Smith
4. Eugene Monroe
5. BJ Raji
6. Brian Orakpo
7. Rey Maualuga
8. Michael Crabtree
9. Peria Jerry
10. Clint Sintim

Im not saying these guys are meant for #6 but if we were to trade back, I would be all for Sintim or Jerry.

Instead of Crabtree, I would rather wait and hope to get AJ Green from UGA or Julio Jones from Bama. Who knows, possibly Simpson and Caldwell will become the guys we need and its a moot point
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Personally, Crabtree is very low on my list.

1. Jason Smith
2. Aaron Curry
3. Andre Smith
4. Eugene Monroe
5. BJ Raji
6. Brian Orakpo
7. Rey Maualuga
8. Michael Crabtree
9. Peria Jerry
10. Clint Sintim

Im not saying these guys are meant for #6 but if we were to trade back, I would be all for Sintim or Jerry.

Instead of Crabtree, I would rather wait and hope to get AJ Green from UGA or Julio Jones from Bama. Who knows, possibly Simpson and Caldwell will become the guys we need and its a moot point
I would say this is my list
1.Aaron Curry
2.Michael Crabtree
3.Jason Smith
4.Eugene Monroe
5.BJ Raji
6.Brian Orakpo
7.Knowshon Moreno
8.Alex Mack
9.James Laurinaitis
10.Max Unger

Any of these players i would be happy to take with the 6th pick or trade down and get later in the 1st round
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I just don't get the love for Crabtree for us. I would rather trading down for Britt or DHB.
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I would rather trade down as well, grab an additional pick, and take care of business.

That being said, we are talking about sitting at #6. Bash away A. Smith all you like. He was once considered the best player in the draft. You don't get to that point by being uncommitted or lazy. His body of work in college speaks volumes. The guy is just dominating at the point of attack. I'm like PalmerToCJ in that I have my problems with the guy, but it all falls on what the team thinks of him as a player, not my issues with what happened during the combine.

By the way, many have already made claims about those stories of A. Smith being more rumors than anything else. Minus the money to lose, maybe he doesn't want to play for a loser team. Eli Manning anyone ??

If Curry goes to KC, I would bet a buttload of money that Orakpo goes to Cleveland the pick before us. He would address a huge need for them.

I only want to have Crabtree sitting at #6 to up the chances of trading down. NOTHING MORE.
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Everyone wants to trade down but it does really look like we could be in a nice position to do so especially if Crabtree is available when we pick.
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Everyone wants to trade down but it does really look like we could be in a nice position to do so especially if Crabtree is available when we pick.
I think Crabtree and Raji both give us a prime opportunity to have a team trade up and allow to trade back and get the same player we could possibly be targeting at #6.
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Would be nice to jump back to the teens and grab an additional second rounder. If there's no Curry/Jason Smith/Monroe I think that's the ideal scenario. Would also give us ammo to trade up in the 2nd/3rd if needed.
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If we traded to the teens, I would like this:

1.) Sintim or Larry English
2.) Mack
2.) Loadholt
3.) Jasper Brinkley
3.) Best available Pass Rusher
4.) Kory Sheets
5.) Nic Harris
6.) Brannan Southerland
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If we traded to the teens, I would like this:

1.) Sintim or Larry English
2.) Mack
2.) Loadholt
3.) Jasper Brinkley
3.) Best available Pass Rusher
4.) Kory Sheets
5.) Nic Harris
6.) Brannan Southerland
7.) Kevin Huber
I'd pretty much love this draft though I'd prolly use our third on a RB if Shonn Greene is available. Other than that I would be super happy if this happened.
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We are so close to being there. If we can get pass rush a center and OT, we can be a big surprise to a lot of teams.
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We are so close to being there. If we can get pass rush a center and OT, we can be a big surprise to a lot of teams.
If we get some pass rush, a Center, and an OT, plus everyone stays healthy, I see no reason for us to not be optimistic about a winning season.
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I think Pass Rush will be the big one for us. I am already thinking Alex Mack should be a lock in rd 2 if he is there, and if he isn't then we need to move to get Wood.
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Producing a pass rush would be what takes our defense from average to good.

Still, it all revolves around the Oline. Get the Oline and you produce many positive things....

1. Carson has time to throw the long ball, gotta love those 50 yard TD passes.
2. We are more productive in the run game without Ghiaciuc screwing things up.
3. As a result of 1 and 2, our time of possession will increase, giving the D time to rest. That KILLED them last year being on the field for so long.
4. With fresher legs, maybe that alone will slightly help the pass rush.
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I think we just need a PR specialist more than anything. I think with Odom and Geathers finally playing with some decent DT's we will see a better pass rush in general this season. If we could add another DT and a Pass Rush Specialist at end it would be great.
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Producing a pass rush would be what takes our defense from average to good.

Still, it all revolves around the Oline. Get the Oline and you produce many positive things....

1. Carson has time to throw the long ball, gotta love those 50 yard TD passes.
2. We are more productive in the run game without Ghiaciuc screwing things up.
3. As a result of 1 and 2, our time of possession will increase, giving the D time to rest. That KILLED them last year being on the field for so long.
4. With fresher legs, maybe that alone will slightly help the pass rush.


I agree to shore up our line must be our priority. We need these people to contribute this season, so its hard to believe they will do any different than OT and C in rounds 1 & 2. Then pick the best available Pass rusher, RB and ILB in rounds 3 & 4.
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I would put pass rusher a little higher on the list. Maybe #2 after O. line. Geathers is just okay, and Odom, who we overpaid, was the beneficiary of playing with Haynesworth & Vandenbosch in TN. I really don't think we can count on a whole lot from either of them. Orakpo is a solid pick whether you stand him up or put his hand on the turf (providing the two top tackles are gone). Dear Lord, I hope we don't take that Smith kid from 'Bama!!!

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We overpay everyone to come to Cincinnati and probably will have to continue to do so until we win multiple Super Bowls, so that's going to be a while. In regards to Odom, it's really hard to say what last season was or wasn't with him since he was hurt his first practice with the team and even when he did get on the field, wasn't 100%. I say wait and see before calling him a free agent bust move for us and our DT has improved as well.

Center is a HUGE need seeing as we did nothing to address it during free agency and it irritates me to think we may wait until later in the draft as opposed to taking one of the top Centers in the 2nd. If you aren't going to address needs in free agency, GO GET THE GUY WHO'S GOING TO HELP !!!
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We overpay everyone to come to Cincinnati and probably will have to continue to do so until we win multiple Super Bowls, so that's going to be a while. In regards to Odom, it's really hard to say what last season was or wasn't with him since he was hurt his first practice with the team and even when he did get on the field, wasn't 100%. I say wait and see before calling him a free agent bust move for us and our DT has improved as well.

Center is a HUGE need seeing as we did nothing to address it during free agency and it irritates me to think we may wait until later in the draft as opposed to taking one of the top Centers in the 2nd. If you aren't going to address needs in free agency, GO GET THE GUY WHO'S GOING TO HELP !!!
Thats just how free agency is. You always overpay. The majority of the time you end up with a player that doesnt perform to their pay check.
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Saw on the local news tonight that the Bengals are shopping Levi and apparently the Bears are interested.
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3rd or 4th for him...I hope
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would be nice. I know St. Clair has been looking around at other teams, so the Bears might be looking for some insurance. Would be nice to get a third...who knows maybe he is worth more (hardly possible) but that could potentialy give us 3, 3rd round draft picks in this draft.`
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