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I was bored so I decided to make a mock. This is a combination of what I hope happens and what I think will happen (which is almost impossible to predict like you guys said).

Round 1
Pick 21 - Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma St. - I just have a feeling the eagles are gonna snatch this guy up. Celek is a good receiver but the eagles want someone who can do it all, Pettigrew will immediately be one of the best blocking TEs in the league, and he also is not a bad option catching the ball either.



Pick 28 [CAR] - Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia - Probably the eagles biggest need right now. Wanna know how bad the depth at RB is right now? The #2 and #3 guys are Lorenzo Booker and Kyle Eckel. With a starter as injury-prone as Brian Westbrook, that is unacceptable. Knowshon Moreno will step in right away as a guy to take the load off of Westy's shoulders, fill in when he's hurt, and he will also be the future starter.



Round 2
[TRADE] Eagles trade pick #53(Rd.2), #121(4), and #157(5) to Buffalo for #42(2) and #220(7).

Pick 42 [BUF] - Kenny Britt WR Rutgers - Britt falls a little further than expected and the eagles don't risk him falling any more. The eagles don't have a ton of needs so they sacrifice a little quantity for some quality. Britt has a great combination of size and speed and has all the tools to be a #1 receiver in the NFL. Great complement for DeSean Jackson as well.



Round 3
Pick 85 - Jason Watkins OT Florida - Very talented player with the ability to play either LT or RT at the next level, with the potential to start. Still raw but with the help of Juan Castillo can make something of himself. The eagles like getting raw offensive lineman on the second day and turning them into stars, and I believe that's what the eagles will attempt to do this year rather than taking one too high. Could challenge Todd Herremans (who I have being the starting LT this season) sometime down the road.



Round 4

*Pick traded to Buffalo*

Round 5
Pick 141 [CLE] - C.J. Spillman FS Marshall - The eagles have 4 safeties on the roster right now and 3 are pretty much locks to make the team. The 5th round is a great place to grab a guy who can compete for that 4th spot with Rashad Baker. Spillman was very solid in both run support and coverage, but didn't have too many turnovers. If he makes the team will at the very least be a great special teamer.



Pick 153 [NYJ] - Devin Moore RB Wyoming - With DeSean Jackson and Quintin Demps both looking like they will have more significant roles this season, the eagles will look into bringing into a top-notch return specialist. Moore has fantastic speed and like someone with the same first name, could be a threat to take it to the house whenever he gets the ball. Could also get a couple snaps on offense and be a Darren Sproles type player to a lesser extent.



Pick 159 [NE] - Jared Bronson TE Central Washington - The eagles add another TE in Bronson who has good size and very good speed for his position. Will replace Matt Schobel and could be a very solid 3rd TE for the eagles offense.



Round 6
Pick 194 - Terrance Knighton DT Temple - Nighton has good size and will bring depth to the NT position and will compete with Dan Klecko for the 4th DT position. Great canidate for the Practice Squad if Dan Klecko beats him out and they only keep 4 DTs.



Pick 195 [MIN] - Captain Munnerlyn CB South Carolina - Solid cover corner with good athleticism who can compete with Trae Williams for that 5th CB spot assuming Jack Ikegwuonu can win the dime CB job. Also has value in the return game and on ST altogether.



Round 7
Pick 220 [BUF] - Brian Toal LB Boston College - Not the biggest or fastest player but has great instincts and can provide depth at all 3 LB postitions as well as be a great Special Teamer.



Pick 230 - Jordan Norwood WR Penn State - Not the most physically gifted WR out there but had very solid production for a 3rd WR. Probably won't be much more than a career backup in the NFL and his only chances to make the team might be if the eagles keep 6 WRs. Might have to spend a year or two on the PS.

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I'm not a big fan of Jason Watkins. He has the body of a RT but the playing style of a LT. Those usually don't fit well together. I think he would get dominated in the NFL, specially in the NFC East. I love the Munnerlyn pick. And Britt, Moreno and Pettigrew are all very solid picks IMO as well.
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I'm not a big fan of Jason Watkins. He has the body of a RT but the playing style of a LT. Those usually don't fit well together. I think he would get dominated in the NFL, specially in the NFC East. I love the Munnerlyn pick. And Britt, Moreno and Pettigrew are all very solid picks IMO as well.
Yeah I feel the same way about it. I also love the Toal pick. He is one of my favorite late round sleepers coming into this draft and if anything he'll be a great special teams player. He's a good all around linebacker who could also act as a backup FB. It's too bad injuries hampered his college career.
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Thanks for the feedback guys. As for Watkins, I know there is a chance he won't amount to much in the NFL, but I also think he has the highest upside of all the OTs you can get in the 3rd round or later, and that's why I have us taking him.
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I like the draft for the most part, I think DT might be addressed in round 4 or 5, as well as CB, but I like the picks. I too am not a huge Watkins fan, but that is really the only picks I don't like that much. I think if we get a tackle, it will be a guy that the Eagles think will be a LT and LT only, since we have too many players who can play RT already, haha. The first picks are great, and I would be very happy with that first day...
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A new mock, with the updated trade for Jason Peters included.

1. Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia
2. Jared Cook TE South Carolina
3. Ramses Barden WR Cal Poly-SLO
5. Coye Francies CB San Jose State
5. Devin Moore RB Wyoming
5. Roy Miller DT Texas
5. Brandon Underwood S Cincinnati
6. Brian Toal LB Boston College
6. Drew Willy QB Buffalo
7. Kevin Huber P Cincinnati
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That would be fine for me, I love Moreno, and I think TE is addressed about where it should be. Barden woud give us another big red zone threat. And I like all the guys you have going in the 5th round there, the whole thing really.
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I haven't actually made an Official Mock Draft (1-3)yet and, I'm dieing of boredom so he it is "Whale's Official Mock Draft". Seeing as how everyone hated my 1st one. (I wasn't thinking)

First Round Pick:
Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia
The team needs depth behind often injured star Brian Westbrook, and Correll Buckhalter is gone. That would make rarely used Lorenzo Booker the only backup. The Eagles usually don't take Backs in the 1st round so they could also take Connecticut's Donald Brown.



Second Round Pick:
Cornelius Ingram TE Florida
Brent Celek is a reliable receiver but, a sketchy blocker. Matt Schobel could help sometimes but, the Eagles run a lot of 2 TE sets so it is crucial to draft a TE and is Pettigrew falls past 16, I think the Eagles will trade up to take Pettigrew.



Third Round Pick:
Darcel McBath S Texas Tech



I'm kind tired i'm finishing this another time.
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Booo! horrendous effort. Not bad first three picks though, I like it. Can't go wrong with Knoshon.
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I'd rather have Coffman than Ingram, but that's just me.
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I'd rather have Coffman than Ingram, but that's just me.
Coffman is my favorite TE. Someone is going to get a great, great TE, I just hope its us...
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Coffman is my favorite TE. Someone is going to get a great, great TE, I just hope its us...
I like Coffman hes on my personal list of TE that I wont be mad if we drafted. also did you guys know his dad played for Green Bay as a TE.

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I like Coffman hes on my personal list of TE that I wont be mad if we drafted. also did you guys know his dad played for Green Bay as a TE.

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I knew that from watching (just about) every game he played. They would mention it over and over. Apparently he had himself a nice career from what the commentators were saying, I never looked into him though. I loved watching Mizzou games this year with all the players they have that I was looking at as potential draft picks for the Eagles, and I caught every game I could.
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I like Coffman a lot as well and would love the eagles to draft him as high as the 2nd round. I think he can be a Chris Cooley type player in the NFL.
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I like Coffman a lot as well and would love the eagles to draft him as high as the 2nd round. I think he can be a Chris Cooley type player in the NFL.
I think that is a decent comparison. I think the impact he can have is greater than what Cooley has, which is saying a lot. But from watching him play, I know he can be great in the NFL. He has a great body for the TE we want in the WCO, and is a dynamic receiving threat who can stretch the field, despite his slow timed speed. His hands are impecable, and is really a complete receiving threat, though he could become a little better as a route runner, though it isn't a weakness. His only true weakness is as a blocker, and with his body, and with the right coaching and hard work, which he has, he can be a "good enough" blocker in the NFL, at least, if not a very good one.
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My final eagles mock of the year.

Round 1
Pick 21 - Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia - Does this pick surprise anyone? Moreno has become my favorite prospect for the eagles in the entire draft and I'd honestly be pretty upset if we didn't get him. He's the perfect fit for our offense and will be a cornerstone of our offense for years to come.



Round 2
[Trade] - Sheldon Brown, Pick 141 (5) and Pick 153 (5) to the rams for pick 35 (2)
Pick 35 (STL) - Alphonso Smith CB Wake Forest - Unfortunately Sheldon Brown requested a trade, and due to the fact that he's 30 years old, I can see the eagles complying considering their goal to get younger. Alphonso Smith is more like Asante than Sheldon in that he takes a lot of risks, but he could make an immediate impact as a rookie and be a starter for years to come.



Pick 53 - Chase Coffman TE Missouri - Isn't the blocker that Pettigrew is but he is an even better receiver. Makes spectacular grabs all the time and can compete with Celek for the starting TE position. Hasn't gotten too many chances to help his blocking but has the size and strength to do it.



Round 3
Pick 85 - Ramses Barden WR Cal Poly - One of the eagles biggest weaknesses last year was the inability to score TDs in the redzone. With the addition of Jason Peters, Stacy Andrews, Leonard Weaver, Chase Coffman, and now Ramses Barden, along with the improvement of Hank Baskett, they should be much improved in both running the ball and passing it in the redzone. Barden is 6'6 and a great leaper, and draws a lot of comparisons to Plaxico Buress.



Round 4
[Trade] - Pick 157 (5), Pick 194 (6) and WR Reggie Brown to the bears for pick 119 (4)
Pick 119 - Richard Quinn TE North Carolina - I'm sure this comes as a surprise to everyone, 2 TEs in the first 4 rounds, but next to Pettigrew, Quinn is the best blocking TE in the draft. He only had 12 catches in his career, so this is obviously not a guy that's gonna scare anyone in the pass game. He will beat our Schobel and find a nice niche on the team as a 3rd, blocking TE in goalline and short yardage situations.



Round 5
Pick 159 (NE) - Myron Pryor DT Kentucky - Big DT who is extremely athletic for his size. If he lives up to his potential, he would be a great fit as a 4th DT who can not only stop the run but get to the QB as well. Might need some time to develop however and could challenge Dan Klecko for a roster spot.



Round 6

Pick 195 (MIN) - Marcus Thigpen RB/RS Indiana - DeSean Jackson and Quintin Demps will both have bigger roles on offense/defense this year so the eagles pick up one of the better return specialists in the draft to take some if not all of the reps from them. Doesn't offer much from an offense stand point.


Round 7
Pick 230 - Corey Smith OLB Cincinnati - Has decent size and good athleticism. Has the ability to be a very good special teamer but early on in his career profiles more as a practice squad player.

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Good mock lets hope we don't trade Sheldon though. And Throw Sean Smith in there too just because of his size.
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Overall I like it, but as the team has said they won't trade Sheldon, and even if they would, IMO, they would use one of our two younger guys who can potentially start instead of drafting another one early. I do think they draft a CB in the middle rounds now, just in case, but IMO, the second is too early. I think if they would draft a CB though, it would be for a guy more like Sheldon. Having two risk takers at CB is a bit of a risk, no matter how talented both are.

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Ramses Barden is a good pick, and I think he would help out our red zone offense a bunch

I like the Quinn pick, don't love it, but I really like it. We may be able to get a similar player a little later, but this is where I'd start looking at the Eagles to draft a CB.

I like Myron Pryor, but as you know, I personally like Roy Miller better. He may go in the fourth, but he could easily be available with this pick. I like Pryor, but Miller would be my preference, just my opinion. He can do all the things you listed, but he is just a little quicker and gets better penetration.

A returner is something I've been thinking about for a while now. I'm not sure how Thigpen would translate as a returner, but I do think we need to address returner, for the reasons you said.

I like bringing in a young LB, but i think if we do that, it's more likely we do that at SLB instead of WLB, since we have two capable starters at LB, and only one at SLB (not counting Bradley if he had to slide over). I think SLB would be more likley, however, I wouldn't rule WLB out either.

Nice mock, I don't like giving up Sheldon without getting a proven NFL player back in return, but as a whole, I would support this draft.
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I say we just do another trade with the bills for Roscoe Parrish as our return specialist the only problem with him is that he only returned punts in buffalo while Leodis Mckelvin and Terrance Mcgee returned kicks.
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I say we just do another trade with the bills for Roscoe Parrish as our return specialist the only problem with him is that he only returned punts in buffalo while Leodis Mckelvin and Terrance Mcgee returned kicks.
What would that cost though, if it would be anything more than a fifth, I'd say just draft a guy. I really don't know what returners are available though, so I can't say who would be available.
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What would that cost though, if it would be anything more than a fifth, I'd say just draft a guy. I really don't know what returners are available though, so I can't say who would be available.
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This might be my last mock draft, unless it gets really bad reviews. Comments and suggestions are always appreciated.

1 (21) Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia
With Brian Westbrook getting up there in age, the Eagles need to develop an heir apparent to the Running Back position. Knowshon is an all around talent who can run, block, and catch the ball very well. I know this means nothing but Sal Paolantonio said that the Eagles are targeting Knowshon with the 21st overall pick in the draft. Hopefully it’s true.


2 (39) Darius Butler CB Connecticut
I gave the Eagles this trade because of the Sheldon Brown contract situation. I don’t think they are going to trade him this year, but they might do it next year after his guaranteed money runs out. In the meantime, Darius Butler can learn and be a return man because DeSean Jackson and Quintin Demps are going to be taking a more active role at their respective positions. Butler sure has the speed (4.38 40 yard dash) to do it.


4 (107) Brooks Foster WR North Carolina
This might not be the North Carolina WR that people are expecting the Eagles to take, but Brooks Foster is a solid prospect. He is tough and physical (27 bench press reps), as well as fast (4.44 40 yard dash). He didn’t produce all that much in college, but I think he’ll end up a being better pro.


5 (141) James Casey TE Rice
“Thor” is a physical specimen and caught a ridiculous 111 passes this past season. He should be a great security blanket for Donovan McNabb.

5 (157) Roy Miller DT Texas
The Eagles have 3 pretty good DT’s, but they always use a rotation and I think Roy Miller would fit well into that rotation.


5 (159) Richard Quinn TE North Carolina
Quinn is a great blocker and underrated as a receiver. He didn’t get a chance to catch the ball much at UNC, but with time he should be a competent receiver.


6 (194) Quinn Johnson FB LSU
The Eagles only signed Leonard Weaver for one year. They could stash him away on the practice squad for a year and then see what happens with Weaver.


6 (195) Robert Francois OLB Boston College
The Eagles could use some depth at LB and Robert Francois would be a good Special Teams guy to start out with and could develop into something more.

Philadelphia Eagles trade pick #53, pick #85, and pick #153 to Jacksonville Jaguars for pick #39 and pick #107.

Philadelphia Eagles trade pick #230 for 6th rounder next year.
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I did see a bit of him, and as i said before, I don't think he would be a good returner in the NFL. I just have a feeling. He has the tools you look for, but I never see him running with the attitude that he'll never be tackled, which is something I want in a returner. I wouldn't mind him, but even though I know very little about the return man situation this year, I'm sure there are better options available.
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