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Old 08-06-2009, 03:03 PM    (permalink
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It would have been considerably lower if not for the Williams trade but I really like that deal.
The grade was fair. I'm glad you considered Roy in your grade because many other places overlook that fact when grading the Cowobys' draft. I think there are pros and cons to the situation. He's talented, ready and proven. On the other side, he's expensive, prone to lapses in concentration, moody and has had his fair share of injuries in his young career. But if healthy and focused he helps the Cowboys "now". I'd be lying if I said I was pleased with his connection with Romo in training camp. So far they've failed to gel, but that's what TC is for... to work things out.

So much of this draft depends on the impact that these guys will provide off the depth chart and on special teams. I agree that there weren't many starting spots up for grabs, so the philosophy to build depth was sound. I just had hoped going in that they would've addressed the depth in the trenches with more focus. Do you agree or disagree?

I know they looked at guys like Max Unger, Louis Delmas, Patrick Chung and Jeremy Maclin (surprise surprise), but do you know if they looked at any other players with as much intent? Gosselin had them mocked taking Andy Levitre at 51, but he was on the board and in fact was the Bills pick at 51 after we traded it to them. So I don't know how much they really liked Levitre or just put out a smoke screen that Gosselin bit on.

I feel like they reached just a little bit with Jason Williams, but I know he was climbing draft boards. They brought in Jarron Gilbert and interviewed him several times throughout the process. I feel like they got burned when he was drafted right before our pick. But apparently there are reports that Williams was their target all along no matter what and actually considered taking him at 51. Do you buy that? Do you think Williams would've been there at the Brewster pick (11th pick in rnd 3)?

Speaking of Brewster, you mentioned that he would've been available in other rounds if they had waited. When you scouted him, did you project him as a better Guard or Tackle in the NFL?

Drafting 2 OLBs in Round 4... spending to just to spend? Or was that actually a wise calculated move?
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Speaking of Brewster, you mentioned that he would've been available in other rounds if they had waited. When you scouted him, did you project him as a better Guard or Tackle in the NFL?
Just like Sebastian Vollmer was going to be a undrafted free agent right Scott?;) Scott is great with the player evaluations, but his mocks are not entirely reliable. He may be right that Brewster should have gone in the middle rounds and Vollmer should have been undrafted instead of going in the second.

However, if you want to know where these players would have been available you should go read Gosselin's top 100 before the draft. Goose bases his player rankings on his discussions with pro GM's and scouts. Goose had Brewster going in the third round. So I would have to disagree strongly with Scott that Brewster would have been available a couple of rounds later.

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let it go. agree to have your own opinions and stop making me read all this garbage.
Sorry bout that. All cleaned up now.

quincy, go to the Cowboys forum to continue the discussion. It doesn't belong here. BTW, how could I delete my last message and still let you see my response? You're killin' me! :D

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Sorry bout that. All cleaned up now.

quincy, go to the Cowboys forum to continue the discussion. It doesn't belong here. BTW, how could I delete my last message and still let you see my response? You're killin' me! :D
I mean didn't. Whatev.
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There are only four left so they should be done by Monday or Tuesday.
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With the last of those four second rounders New England reached for Houston OT Sebastian Vollmer, who most felt would come off the board a round or two later.
I'm pretty sure you said he would be undrafted. Backtracking are we?
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I'm pretty sure you said he would be undrafted. Backtracking are we?
Absolutely not. I don't backtrack, that's why I archive all of my old rankings and mocks on the site for everyone to see. Right or wrong I stand by them.

I had Vollmer rated as a seventh round pick but I think the general consensus was that he would go earlier than that. Still, I didn't talk to anyone before the draft who felt he was a second.
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Absolutely not. I don't backtrack, that's why I archive all of my old rankings and mocks on the site for everyone to see. Right or wrong I stand by them.

I had Vollmer rated as a seventh round pick but I think the general consensus was that he would go earlier than that. Still, I didn't talk to anyone before the draft who felt he was a second.
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