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Old 08-08-2009, 12:10 PM    (permalink
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Mike Jenkins got carted off today. Lets hope its not serious.
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Let's hope that worst case scenario it's a high ankle sprain. Fortunately we have a little depth at CB, but it is youth.
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Let's hope that worst case scenario it's a high ankle sprain. Fortunately we have a little depth at CB, but it is youth.
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Yeah, the Jenkins injury isn't good. It's a high ankle sprain, so it just might linger all season long, which is never a good thing when our star CB is getting up there in years.
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They dont know what it is yet, exactly. This was bound to happen to someone. ughhh. Hopefully, it wont even be that bad. This is real disappointing.

In other news, the Browns cut NT/DE Shaun Smith. He's a bit of a hot head but, he's better than anything we have backing up Ratliff. And he did lose about 40 pounds so, he is dedicated. Maybe we'll bring him in to battle w/ Junior. Wouldnt be a bad pick up, although his character is a bit of a red flag.
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Good News: Jenkins is fine, he's day to day with a mild sprain.

Bad News: Newman is down with a slight groin injury.
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Both were said to be minor/day to day. thank god..
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After finding out more about Jason Williams I can't figure out why we spent such an early pick on him. I'm fairly confident he would have been around longer. He's basically an athlete that wasn't asked to do anything other than blitz in college...

Why?

I still like him, but he seems more like a guy you grab mid 4
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Several teams were hot on him behind us...I dont think we could have waited much longer. The guy was rising quickly, DB type athleticism in a 240 pound body. We got him right around where I figured we would have. Yeah, he may not be ready, but as far as fits go...it was a perfect selection for what we needed.
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They dont know what it is yet, exactly. This was bound to happen to someone. ughhh. Hopefully, it wont even be that bad. This is real disappointing.

In other news, the Browns cut NT/DE Shaun Smith. He's a bit of a hot head but, he's better than anything we have backing up Ratliff. And he did lose about 40 pounds so, he is dedicated. Maybe we'll bring him in to battle w/ Junior. Wouldnt be a bad pick up, although his character is a bit of a red flag.
I want to bring him in. Shaun Smith would be quality depth. Better than Siavii in any case IMHO.
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Our preseason game isnt nationally televised live on the 13th. But it will be re-aired on the NFL network at 2 A.M. ET and Noon ET on the 14th. Just a heads up.

So if you stay up late, you really dont have to wait all that long to see it. Game ends at like 1 AM ET, anyway.
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Several teams were hot on him behind us...I dont think we could have waited much longer. The guy was rising quickly, DB type athleticism in a 240 pound body. We got him right around where I figured we would have. Yeah, he may not be ready, but as far as fits go...it was a perfect selection for what we needed.
Yeah, well they loved him so much they decided to not try to trade up for a falling Maualuga. So we'll see who has the better career.
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Yeah, well they loved him so much they decided to not try to trade up for a falling Maualuga. So we'll see who has the better career.
Sort of my line of thinking... Different players I guess. Maualuga is not the cover backer that Williams can be. That being said, Rey isn't nearly as bad as everyone made him out to be. In fact, I'd rather see Rey in coverage than Bradie and we seem content with leaving him in on 3rd down so...

Ill admit that it looks like we got some good picks with V Butler and B Williams, both of which were suspect to me when we first made the picks.

Hamlin looks to be a nice find. He was pretty much a no brainer though. Great value.

Deangelo Smith is nice depth who can play multiple spots so he's valuable. Poor man's Meriweather at this point, could end up being a similar player though.

Brewster is a wild card, but seems like a reach by all accounts.

J Williams is a project. I like his potential and I'm glad he's on the team... but again, a reach.

Stephen Hodge -- probably lifetime back up/ST, but we need a guy like him to be our "keith davis/Kevin Burnett" on special teams. Fine with that.

Mike Mickens looks like a scrub. Again, fine with taking a flier on a guy, but why not Chris Baker? Why not help out the weakest spot on the team (DL)?

Too many reaches and fliers for a team that had 12 picks. I understand adding depth and churning the roster but I would have liked to have seen us do a little more quality and a little less quantity.

Maybe 8ish picks instead? Definitely think we could have had both Rey and Jarron if we wanted to.

Loadholt has also been doing well in TC so far. Not sure where he would fit on this team but maybe Davis to LT, Columbo at RT and Loadholt at RG and release flo? I would have liked to see that, but the new contract we gave flo probably would have prevented that.

Hell, throw Loadholt at LG and let him and Leonard Davis be the 2 biggest guards in the league. With gurode at C that is some nasty power to lead the way for 3 good rb's

Whatever. Cross my fingers for the best with the guys we got.

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So, let us fess up, who loved Stanback when they drafted him?

There are a few of you.

Looks like he will be one of the final cuts.

McGhee will be the Stanback of 2009
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Sort of my line of thinking... Different players I guess. Maualuga is not the cover backer that Williams can be. That being said, Rey isn't nearly as bad as everyone made him out to be. In fact, I'd rather see Rey in coverage than Bradie and we seem content with leaving him in on 3rd down so...

Ill admit that it looks like we got some good picks with V Butler and B Williams, both of which were suspect to me when we first made the picks.

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Deangelo Smith is nice depth who can play multiple spots so he's valuable. Poor man's Meriweather at this point, could end up being a similar player though.

...

Too many reaches and fliers for a team that had 12 picks. I understand adding depth and churning the roster but I would have liked to have seen us do a little more quality and a little less quantity.

Maybe 8ish picks instead? Definitely think we could have had both Rey and Jarron if we wanted to.
Yeah assuming we could have found someone to deal, it looks like both of those guys are available. And while I was high on both of those dudes before the draft, I've cooled some. With Gilbert it's that I think this team is planning on moving Rat to DE at some point in the future, and that's awesome and Gilbert doesn't fit in that future. With Rey, he's a clone of Bradie at this point. He's faster, but so is every draft class. They don't want another Bradie, because they are (inexplicably) in love with Bradie. They want a compliment to Bradie. That's what they want either J. Williams or Carp to be. Brooking is a start because his brain will keep him playing faster, but obviously not the solution.

I'm hesitant to get excited for the OLBs, but they are definitely showing more promise than I thought. Williams especially, he just screamed turd and never stood out to me in Big XII games.

Comparing Smith to Meriweather is noteworthy. Similar skill sets, similar measurements, vastly different colleges (and the hype that goes with playing at "da U").

I agree overall that it seemed odd that in a draft where VERY few starting positions are needed, we saw fit to stockpile backups. This has killed us in the past, and without rings to show for it this time. If you draft backups, eventually you have a team full of backups. Then before you know it, Dave Campo (Jason Garrett) is your head coach...
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So, let us fess up, who loved Stanback when they drafted him?

There are a few of you.

Looks like he will be one of the final cuts.

McGhee will be the Stanback of 2009
If i remember correctly I was somewhat upset because I felt like we reached (once again) on a guy when there were other, more accomplished true WR's available.

When Antwan Randel El is the gold standard for QB's turned WR -- that would be a huge red flag to me. Why even take a guy in his position (I believe it was the first pick of round 4?) when there were more accomplished WR's on the board?

I've been all for him panning out, but didn't want him originally.

Same with McGhee -- I just don't understand the logic?

Why draft a developmental QB when your starting QB is nowhere near the end of his career? We draft and develop him, only to see him bolt when his rookie contract is up so someone else gets the benefit of our hard work? great idea!

There are a handful of Jon Kitnas (serviceable backups) that are in FA every year. Why not just sign those guys on a year to year basis and worry about a developmental guy when Romo is like 32 or 33?
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Yeah assuming we could have found someone to deal, it looks like both of those guys are available. And while I was high on both of those dudes before the draft, I've cooled some. With Gilbert it's that I think this team is planning on moving Rat to DE at some point in the future, and that's awesome and Gilbert doesn't fit in that future. With Rey, he's a clone of Bradie at this point. He's faster, but so is every draft class. They don't want another Bradie, because they are (inexplicably) in love with Bradie. They want a compliment to Bradie. That's what they want either J. Williams or Carp to be. Brooking is a start because his brain will keep him playing faster, but obviously not the solution.

I'm hesitant to get excited for the OLBs, but they are definitely showing more promise than I thought. Williams especially, he just screamed turd and never stood out to me in Big XII games.

Comparing Smith to Meriweather is noteworthy. Similar skill sets, similar measurements, vastly different colleges (and the hype that goes with playing at "da U").

I agree overall that it seemed odd that in a draft where VERY few starting positions are needed, we saw fit to stockpile backups. This has killed us in the past, and without rings to show for it this time. If you draft backups, eventually you have a team full of backups. Then before you know it, Dave Campo (Jason Garrett) is your head coach...
Yeah Rat to DE is fine -- I would agree with Gilbert being a dumb pick if that was the case. I just don't know if they are going to do that.

What if Rat gets 8 or 9 sacks this year? are we gonna move him anyway? I would say go for it, but this team lacks the balls to do something like that. You also don't want to piss a guy off that you are severely under paying.

I've wanted him at DE all along, but when Junior Siavii ends up on the team TWICE it doesn't look like we're trying very hard to find a serious replacement. That dude is hardly practice squad material. I didn't even realize how old he is already until I looked it up.

I can't believe he's gained a considerable amount of hype as our back up and possible starting NT if we can "light a fire under him" -- that fat **** is already 30 years old. There is no fire to light. He's a lazy slob.

Personally I would have liked to of seen us draft Rey, retain Burnett (who signed a 2 yr, 5 mil deal - cheaper than Brooking) let Rey learn behind Bradie for a year and then trade or release Bradie next season. Sell high.

We'll see how everything turns out. I just feel like we totally blew the offseason. Starting with RW to the way we handled the draft.

Obviously the people working for the Cowboys know way more than I do, so we'll see what happens.
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Stanback had a good practice today, FYI. It's not a certainty that he gets cut.

But anyway, the pick didnt bother me, nor did I love it. It was a 4th rounder, if he panned out he panned out. And if he didnt, it was a 4th round pick, it's not the end of the world.
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Same with McGhee -- I just don't understand the logic?
1. McGhee QB, Stanback QB
2. McGhee first pick of 4th round. Stanback same.
3. McGhee is more athlete than QB, Stanback same
4. McGhee was acquired via trade into that pick, Stanback same.
5. Everyone scratched their head and said .... 7th Rounder.
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First off, his name is McGee. And yeah he's a project but, he's not more of an athlete than a QB, not to the extent of a Stanback atleast. He def. gives you a lot to work with. For the majority of his career he played in A&M's wonky, zone read option offense, and he was hurt when Mike Sherman implemented a pro style (westcoast) offense. He's better suited for a pro style offense, he just didnt get much of a chance to play in one. He was a top 5 pro style QB going into college. Worst choice he made was choosing A&M.
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1. McGhee QB, Stanback QB
2. McGhee first pick of 4th round. Stanback same.
3. McGhee is more athlete than QB, Stanback same
4. McGhee was acquired via trade into that pick, Stanback same.
5. Everyone scratched their head and said .... 7th Rounder.
These guys are totally different players. What's your point?

BTW, neither would have lasted until the 7th round.
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I love the value of 4th round picks. Barber and Canty topping the list of course.. but Stanback and Free are like the complete opposite. Honestly, I was like WTF when we drafted Stanback. In fact, I was mad that they passed on Free to take him. So when we did get Free I was damn happy. Then Free showed high bust potential in Year 1 and I've never thought highly of him since. So Stanback is crap and Free is crap. I was mad at one and happy at the other when we drafted them. Hindsight 20/20... I should've been mad that we made both picks. LOL.

This year? IMO, we wasted the McGee and Williams picks in the 4th. Wasted the Brewster pick too. The rest I was ok with. I mean... I liked McGee as a QB option in the draft, but I didn't want to address QB any higher than the 6th or 7th. McGee was rising, but I want a player who can bring more impact in the 4th. QB development for us in our current situation? Didn't make enough sense for me to use the first pick of the 4th for someone battling for the 3rd string QB job.

I brought up this sleeper's name a lot before the draft, but I wish we took Vaughn Martin. The guy is gonna be a flat out beast at NT for the Chargers.

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....He was a top 5 pro style QB going into college. Worst choice he made was choosing A&M.
I could have told you that. So he is also not too smart like Mitch Mustain with his AK chocie.

You want to be a Pro QB -- go to a Pro system that has been there for years. Like Miami, USC, UCLA, PAC 10, Big Sky ....
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