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Old 08-07-2009, 03:00 PM    (permalink
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Just wonder if the Raiders drafted him... he probably would have retired right after the draft
I lol'd.. haha
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This is absurd. I don't care how good you think you are or where you thought you should be picked. You were the #10 pick so you should be paid like the #10 pick.
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This is absurd. I don't care how good you think you are or where you thought you should be picked. You were the #10 pick so you should be paid like the #10 pick.
But the Jet said if they had the #1 pick, they'd pick Kellen Winslow Jr., so he should be paid as though he was taken #1.

This is nothing we haven't seen before.

Although, why is ESPN STILL reporting this if it isn't true? Why hasn't the agent or Crabtree himself called a press conference to deny it? It has clearly become a big enough story in the sports world to warrant it.
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why is ESPN STILL reporting this if it isn't true? Why hasn't the agent or Crabtree himself called a press conference to deny it? It has clearly become a big enough story in the sports world to warrant it.
what else are they going to fill 24 hours with, if not people giving their opinion on the matter after being briefed about it, 5 minutes before going on air?
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what else are they going to fill 24 hours with?

Yankees/Sox, Michael Vick, Donte Stallworth, Florida's #1 pre-season BCS ranking, Lebron James returning to the Cavs, Michael Phelps, is Brett Favre going to un-retire and join the Lakers? Or the Yankees?

Its been 12 minutes since they talked about Brett Favre, they have to be going into withdrawal by now.

And again, why has this not been publicly denied?
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it was denied by the agent, when he said it to ESPN.com

they just need shiiiiiiiiiiiiiit to talk about
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The agent likely knows its not in his own interest to have Crabtree miss the season. He will get a lot less and its a decent chance Crabtree will axe him once he sees its not working.
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The agent likely knows its not in his own interest to have Crabtree miss the season. He will get a lot less and its a decent chance Crabtree will axe him once he sees its not working.
It's not the agent that masterminded this, it was the nutso "advisor." Honestly Crabtree has a busted foot and didn't run a 40, and he's taking it personally that he was only the number 10 pick? That he's not getting paid mroe than the guys chosen before him? Unbelievable the lack of perspective some prospects have.

He will still be a great receiver though. Barring further ridiculousness.
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It still hasn't been verified by ANYONE that David Wells is even an actual "advisor" to Michael Crabtree. To me it sounds alot like a family member spouting his opinion and claiming that he "advises" his cousin Michael Crabtree.

Alot of very interesting information regarding David Wells is coming out and making this situation even more laughable and Eugene Parker will now, more-than-likely have to settle for less than he'd originally liked in order to save face for his client.

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Crabtree's cousin/advisor/miscellaneous hanger-on, David Wells, has been advising the 49ers draftee to hold out, all season if need be. Here's an article Crabtree needs to read.

The first thing you need to know about Wells is that he made his name as a bail bondsman. But if a man whose company's motto is "U Ring, We Spring," isn't enough to turn you off, back in 2002 the Dallas Observer did a story that makes you wonder why he isn't in jail, let alone advising a top young athlete.

A partial list of curious episodes before and during Wells's time as head of David's Bail Bonds:

•Arrested for stealing boxing gloves from the Dallas Police Athletic League.

•Banned for life by USA Boxing over allegations of misuse of funds.

•Served as the omnipresent bodyguard shoving reporters out of the way for Michael Irvin after his arrest for possession.

•Indicted for serving as a private investigator with a license that had lapsed four years earlier, but exonerated after a dubious receipt appeared showing he had renewed it.

•Let off the hook for $50,000 when one of his clients skipped town, after a dubious document appeared showing he had warned the county.

•Started a security company with a court bailiff, which is illegal due to conflict-of-interest rules.

So, Michael Crabtree, when this man tells you $23 million guaranteed isn't enough money for you, you really ought to get a second opinion.
http://deadspin.com/5331938/michael-...-shady-history
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But the Jet said if they had the #1 pick, they'd pick Kellen Winslow Jr., so he should be paid as though he was taken #1.

This is nothing we haven't seen before.

Although, why is ESPN STILL reporting this if it isn't true? Why hasn't the agent or Crabtree himself called a press conference to deny it? It has clearly become a big enough story in the sports world to warrant it.
Eugene Parker recently released a statement that no such threat was made.
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Alot of very interesting information regarding David Wells is coming out and making this situation even more laughable and Eugene Parker will now, more-than-likely have to settle for less than he'd originally liked in order to save face for his client
I read that Observer article! I wasnt aware it was the same guy. This is too hilarious.
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This thread can probably be closed down. It has been confirmed by the 49ers and Parker that no such threat was ever made and the source is just some idiot cousin with a big mouth.
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Well, here's some positive news...
http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/land...04&feedID=2539
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BJ Raji is reportedly going to sign tomorrow. Crabtree's now got a guage for his contract.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/53167877.html
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BJ Raji is reportedly going to sign tomorrow. Crabtree's now got a guage for his contract.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/53167877.html
no he's always had one. the standard for non-QBs is an 18% increase of the money of the previous year's slot position.
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no he's always had one. the standard for non-QBs is an 18% increase of the money of the previous year's slot position.
Uh no he hasn't always had that one because Raji just signed a contract. Raji got about 15% more in guarantees and his overall contract is about 40% more in total value than last years.
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Uh no he hasn't always had that one because Raji just signed a contract. Raji got about 15% more in guarantees and his overall contract is about 40% more in total value than last years.
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League sources said that another reason the signings have been slow is because the Raiders messed up the process by giving Heyward-Bey an incredibly generous 20-percent raise over what the No. 7 pick received last year.

But the sources with whom I've spoken believe the 49ers' offer is approximately an 18-percent raise from what the Patriots awarded linebacker Jerod Mayo, who was chosen in the same spot last year. That would mean Crabtree has balked at approximately $16.2 million in guaranteed money on a five-year deal or $19.5 million for six years.
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ha, Al Davis was being smart and trying to let everyone elses rookies hold out so that they have a disadvantage
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Whats your point? You're posting something that everyone knows.
To prove what he already told you. Crabtree has always had a gauge for his contract. He's getting a 18% increase in value from last year's number 10 selection.
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I guess Raji got permission from Crabtree to sign his contract. Seeing as though all the players that have been holding out aren't holding out for more money they're just holding out because Michael Crabtree is.
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To prove what he already told you. Crabtree has always had a gauge for his contract. He's getting a 18% increase in value from last year's number 10 selection.
Yes, in theory every player has a guage on their contract - but not a ceiling. Just ask Mark Sanchez and Darrius Heyward-Bey. If Crabtree is getting an 18% increase over last years #10 pick then why hasn't he signed yet? Man the common sense on this board is really lacking.
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If I would have guessed which three players would hold out the longest before the draft, I would of picked Andre Smith, Crabtree and Maybin. I know a lot of people probably felt the same way.
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