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Old 03-01-2007, 01:51 PM    (permalink
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bly is a great fit in denver,he fills a need and the lions got a great deal for him, now they can draft gaines to help out
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I think Antonio Pittman would be an awesome fit in Denver. He's a one cut back with great speed who has been compared over and over again to none other than former Bronco 2nd round pick, Clinton Portis.
Portis is actually exactly who I was thinking of when I said Pittman.
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1. Tatum Bell is worst cutback runner in NFL history in terms of the speed he has. He cant use it for his benefit. Have fun with that Detroit..

2. George Foster.... just sucks

3. Dre Bly and Champ Bailey both cause Turnovers, now more people will throw to champ.

4. now we have no needs at CB, and we might actually draft a high profile RB!!!
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Both teams made out pretty well. Denver didn't lose anything, both of those players are expendable to them. They did make their dominant defense even better though and filled a major hole. I think Bly will do much better with a new team and when he has better players around him.

Bly didn't really fit in Detroit but they gained 2 players that should really improve their depth and/or start at times.
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That is a STEAL for the Lions. Millen actually makes a good deal....great one at that.
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Tatum Bell is worst cutback runner in NFL history in terms of the speed he has. He cant use it for his benefit. Have fun with that Detroit...
Have you ever noticed that Mike Martz doesn't run much of a cut-back running scheme? I think TBell's skill set fits nicely with what the Lions do. He is a stopgap until KJones rehabs.
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First, my bad on the Shannahan not drafting day 1 RBs, I was wrong.

2nd...shoot, how many "Janes" did Shannahan convert to Tarzans already? He can make it work.
actually after the last draft shannahan said he would have taken a RB 1st round if one of the better ones was still there.
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This is all a moot point. "Never" can become "sometimes" ever 15 min-utes in every draft situation...
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If we played them T.O. and Terry Glenn will still light 'em up!!!

lol, good trade for the broncos though, I think they won more than Detroit.
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so basicly... we got dre bly, & champ bailey for clinton portis, tatum bell and george foster and a 5th

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That is one ridiculous corner tandem.
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Pittsburgh would probably be excited to trade down with Denver for Denver to take Lynch.

I however think Lorenzo Booker would be a great candidate. With Shanny being the offensive genius, Lorenzo Booker is the best receiving and shifty RB in the draft. Add Mike Bell and you have a solid Duo to build up your young offense with Jay Cutler.
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I'm really not sure what to think of the trade. Foster was benched and Bell isn't a good fit, but Bly isn't really that great of a CB. If the Broncos can pick up a RB I like it, but right now I'm a bit iffy on it.

For the Lions, not sure if this has been discussed but does this lock up Quinn or Adams for them? I can't see them taking Thomas anymore.
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Pretty solid trade for both sides. Denvcer gets a starting corner opposite Champ, and Detroit gets a RB until Jones gets healthy, help on the O-Line and a draft pick
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Broncos | Team could be interested in J. Lewis
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John Murphy, of Yahoo! Sports, reports the Denver Broncos may be interested in signing free-agent RB Jamal Lewis after trading RB Tatum Bell to the Detroit Lions.

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I'm really not sure what to think of the trade. Foster was benched and Bell isn't a good fit, but Bly isn't really that great of a CB. If the Broncos can pick up a RB I like it, but right now I'm a bit iffy on it.

For the Lions, not sure if this has been discussed but does this lock up Quinn or Adams for them? I can't see them taking Thomas anymore.

It doesnt rule out Thomas IMO. Who is going to stop taking the best LT in the draft because you just got a mediocre backup RT?
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most likely the lions will go DE now or QB in Quinn because Foster will take over tackle and that means Joe Thomas is most likely not there pick
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It doesnt rule out Thomas IMO. Who is going to stop taking the best LT in the draft because you just got a mediocre backup RT?
You are partially right we could still take Thomas. Thomas could be the LT of the future. But Backus just got a huge deal at LT last offseason 40 mil. He is here for at least two more years because of his cap hit alone if traded/cut. Woody has a nice sized base salary(highest on the team), Foster probably has a decent salary being a former Round 1 pick and then Thomas would be making #2 money if taken. It might be worth it if we have a good O-line, but Thomas or Backus would now move to LG. I think it could be done, but that is a lot of money to pay for a LG with either Backus or Thomas. I think if that happened Thomas would play LG at first and then would move to LT eventually for the future as he gets used to the NFL. I would think the Lions would have the highest salaried O-line if we take Thomas.

The Lions really need a pass rush. Gaines Adams seems like a great pick to me. Marinelli knows a good DE when he sees it and I will have confidence in him if we take him because its Marinelli helping judge the talent.

As far as Foster, he is not a backup. He was benched at the end of last year because of weight issues. Denver runs the ZBS which requires smaller atheltic linemen. I think Foster could work in Detroit at Right Tackle. He certainly is an upgrade over Stockar McDougle, Kelly Butler,Rex Tucker, Barry Stokes and Jonathan Scott. Plus Foster has experience blocking for Tatum Bell. They know each other and Bell has had decent production and gives us that home run threat.
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Why was Bly an overrated, declining and "average" corner a week ago, and now forms "one of the best CB duos in the NFL"?

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I don't know if I'm the first one to say this or not since I only skimmed through the first page, but WHY ON EARTH would the Lions not take Joe Thomas now? Do you guys really think that George f'n Foster is going to solve your O-Line problems?!
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I don't know if I'm the first one to say this or not since I only skimmed through the first page, but WHY ON EARTH would the Lions not take Joe Thomas now? Do you guys really think that George f'n Foster is going to solve your O-Line problems?!
Let me put this comment to rest: because the Lions don't just have 1 hole... the Lions have 5 or 6 holes. They need to fill CB, DE, MLB early in the draft, and someone in the Lions' management must think that Foster can come in and improve one of their positions. Read this:

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(An aside here: At this point, I think the Lions would help themselves the most by taking tackle Joe Thomas, the second-best no-brainer in the draft. But you should know this -- the Lions aren't as concerned about their offensive line as you and I are. Sure, they'd like to upgrade it, but they don't think it's a ddesperate situation.)
So, no... JThomas isn't an option anymore. They'll target DE (Gaines Adams) without a trade down or MLB (Patrick Willis) with a trade down in the first round.

(Side note: the Lions' offense didn't have a bad year last year... and the OLine was injured for most of the year. Adding Foster and having the starters healthy will only improve things. With the singing of Curtis and the trade to grab Bell, the offense will run smoothly and put up better numbers than last year. The focus now is defense.)
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