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Old 03-02-2007, 06:39 PM    (permalink
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i wonder how the bonus works or if its pro-rated through all the years. that's a lot.
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Old 03-02-2007, 06:40 PM    (permalink
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Usually I would wield a clout if the opportunity arised but unfortunately, I believe this with the FA market being "saturated" and it was predicted that teams would overpay. I'm not sure if anyone is that good in the first place, but wow; he essentially better be more productive than Titanic was at the box office, if this is true.

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Old 03-02-2007, 06:41 PM    (permalink
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I really wanted him so congrats, but at the same time, thats not worth it.

Hes not even a top 5 cornerback, much less the best paid D player in the league.
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That sounds better. Peyton Manning's contract was the same in that it necessarily established market value for quarterbacks to come even though he won't see it completely through, backloaded and bonus conversions and all, but at least that was Peyton.
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That is baseball money.
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Old 03-02-2007, 06:45 PM    (permalink
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Good for the 49ers, great signing. Possibly a bit too much, hopefully he'll be great for you guys. I wanted him in Cleveland, but we've got Steinbach, so I'll be happy for now.
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Bill Polian's draft strategy of spending a 2nd round pick on a cornerback every year looks rather good right now. Wow.

The worst part is that the 49ers, in having to pay extra to lure Clements to their team, have established a ridiculous market value. You honestly think Asante Samuel is going to ask for any less when he becomes a free agent in 2008?
Seriously. I bet Bill Belichick just had a minor stroke after seeing those numbers.
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Old 03-02-2007, 06:46 PM    (permalink
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That sounds better. Peyton Manning's contract was the same in that it necessarily established market value for quarterbacks to come even though he won't see it completely through, backloaded and bonus conversions and all, but at least that was Peyton.
Yeah, i feel a little better now.

I hope the deal is ridicolously front-loaded as well. That way dont have to bear it anymore a few years down the line.
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Wow. Rollin with Nolan.

Definitly overpaid the dude....
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Old 03-02-2007, 06:47 PM    (permalink
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haha i hope it pays off. literally.
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Old 03-02-2007, 06:47 PM    (permalink
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Yeah, i feel a little better now.

I hope the deal is ridicolously front-loaded as well. That way dont have to bear it anymore a few years down the line.
yea, i feel alot better than my initial reaction to reading that. If I have the numbers right, it's basically a 6 year 43.5 mill contract(
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Actually, based on the PFT report, years 6 and 7 are worth 36 mil.


In essence, this is a 6 year 44 million dollar contract. He will never see years 7 and 8.
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LOL. That's move is going to cripple them.
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Actually, based on the PFT report, years 6 and 7 are worth 36 mil.


In essence, this is a 6 year 44 million dollar contract. He will never see years 7 and 8.


So, I'm guessing this takes about 7 mill out of our current cap right? We should have about 28 mill, or so, left.
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Exactly, basically the overall number that is thrown out now is for the agent to trumpet.
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Old 03-02-2007, 06:51 PM    (permalink
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btw, we also signed michael lewis from the eagles.
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Old 03-02-2007, 06:52 PM    (permalink
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This is why Ive said for forever that great teams build through the draft. FA is not worth it, you overpay for talent, and in turn lose the ability to resign the developing talent you already have on your team.

Clements is not worth that money. After 2 average seasons, he gets paid that much? What a joke. Steinbach got too much too. Thomas will too.

Real teams get talent in the draft. You can get mid level FAs to fill needs, but going after the big name is usually not a smart move. In fact, even when it does pan out, its still only a short term solution, so whats the point?
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Makes the Ike Taylor extension look like the deal of the century.
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um wow I hope Raiders don't have to give that to Asomugha next year
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Old 03-02-2007, 07:05 PM    (permalink
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I don't care how much cap space someone has, that is way too much money. I really like Clements and he is very good, but he sure as hell isn't the best defensive player in the league...which is what his pay check now indicates.
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Jesus christ, what a move by Clements. Leaving his former team, and getting amazing money.
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It makes sense... the cap is going to be ridiculous in 6 years... so if the deal is backloaded and the guy still produces, I can see him taking the whole 80
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It makes sense... the cap is going to be ridiculous in 6 years... so if the deal is backloaded and the guy still produces, I can see him taking the whole 80
He'll be 34-35 in 8 years...so I doubt it. He's definitely gone by year 6. People on this board arer exaggerating this deal wayy too much.
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