Saints Offseason Thread - Page 3

Flyboy · 03-01-2007, 04:35 PM

The writing was on the wall, in my opinion. I don't think he'll come back either... good luck to you Joe!

reznola · 03-01-2007, 05:30 PM

That was one of the cuts I expected, when does the other shoe drop on Fred Thomas, I mean come on, is there even a reason for him to take up a roster spot?

Joe was scheduled to make 5 million next year with a 1 million bonus set to come in soon and now makes WR somewhat of a need, but I think you can address that need in the draft as from what I read the FA wr group is weak.

Auron · 03-01-2007, 07:33 PM

Well like you guys said, every Saints fan knew this day would come eventually. Joe is one of my emotional favorites, but his production was declining at his age. It wasn't his fault he got injured..but missing 6 regular season games and not being able to be healthy enough for the playoffs was really disappointing.

this will probably clear up some cap room. There is also a slight chance Joe is back with the Saints. (similar to Isaac Bruce being cut last year and re-signing with the Rams) he may find out his market value isn't as high as he thinks it is.

Bigbadbob72 · 03-01-2007, 11:39 PM

The saints have been my second favortie team for a while and I always loved Joe Horn. This makes me sad and I hope he comes back.

Sveen · 03-02-2007, 02:31 PM

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The Atlanta Falcons might be on the path to bolstering their maligned wide receiver unit and a void in veteran leadership on offense by acquiring free agent wide receiver Joe Horn, who was released by the New Orleans Saints earlier this week.

The Falcons and Horn's agent, Ralph Vitolo, entered into discussions just after the free-agency period started at 12:01 a.m. Friday, according to Vitolo. While contract talks have not been broached, the sides are trying to set up a visit for Horn so he can meet with the new coach Bobby Petrino and his staff, Vitolo said.

Source: http://www.ajc.com/services/content/...svc=7&cxcat=21

Auron · 03-02-2007, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigbadbob72

The saints have been my second favortie team for a while and I always loved Joe Horn. This makes me sad and I hope he comes back.

Well after Joe's recent comments, I'm almost sure he won't be back now..

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HORN BLOWS UP AT SAINTS

Receiver Joe Horn is pissed off at his former team. So, although the Saints have seemingly left the door open to his potential return, it looks like it will be difficult if not impossible to get these two back together.

"Right now it's going around that [the Saints] wanted to restructure my contract and I asked to be released, but this has nothing to do with money," Horn told the Fayetteville (N.C.) Observer. "I wanted to retire as a Saint. I've been through hell and back for that city and that organization. If I wanted out of New Orleans that bad, I would have just kept my mouth shut and let them move the team to San Antonio.

“I just don’t think [head coach] Sean Payton wanted me back. I asked to be released because I felt betrayed by a head coach who wanted to prove he could win without Joe Horn.”

Horn cites the refusal of Payton to use Horn after he had recovered from an injury as the catalyst for the divorce.

wow...Joe really should've just taken the high road and left with class, instead of going off on this media tirade.

Sveen · 03-02-2007, 03:49 PM

Doesn't sound like he is coming back any time soon...

Sveen · 03-03-2007, 05:10 AM

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The Saints are scheduled to host free agents CB Ken Hamlin and LB Brian Simmons on Saturday.

Source: http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/10033511

Sveen · 03-03-2007, 09:43 AM

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Saints re-signed T Jon Stinchcomb to a two-year, $7 million contract.

The deal will pay him $5 million in 2007. The formerly injury-prone right tackle held up well last year, his fourth in the league. Still young, the 27-year-old Stinchcomb will have another shot at free agency in 2009. The Saints should now turn their efforts to adding quality cornerbacks.

Source: Rotoworld.com

Saints Dome Patrol · 03-03-2007, 10:12 AM

Here's the ESPN.com stub:

Stinchcomb agrees to two-year, $7M deal with Saints

I'm really happy that the Saints re-signed Stinchcomb. I'll be honest, before the beginning of last season, I didn't know if he'd be able to come in and start in the NFL. But, he proved me wrong and I really thought he stepped it up big time last season. :)

Auron · 03-03-2007, 11:06 AM

Good signing, I'm glad we're focussed on keeping our core players.

This will ensure continuity along the O-line. Also we have some good depth, Strief in case we need someone to fill in.

Sveen · 03-03-2007, 11:30 AM

I agree. It's a good signing for us.

Saints Dome Patrol · 03-03-2007, 11:53 AM

I know some Saints fans are big fans of offensive tackle Zach Strief, but I don't think he's ready just yet.

However, with the way his deal is set up, it works out for both sides, in my opinion. Stinchcomb gets a two year deal, makes his money, and then he becomes a free agent at the age of 29, with six years of experience, and hopefully by then, either Strief can step up and become the starter or we would have drafted a tackle to come in and take over.

Saints Dome Patrol · 03-03-2007, 12:20 PM

As I said earlier, I don't know if I'm totally sold on Brian Simmons, since he has some injury concerns (but doesn't everyone) and he's not exactly a Spring chicken.

But as for Ken Hamlin, I think he'd definitely be an upgrade and we could use someone like him in our secondary. He's a cornerback/safety and a hard hitter, which something that we don't particularly have. I know that he himself has also had injury concerns but I think he's fully recovered.

We'll have to see, now with linebacker London Baker-Fletcher signing with Washington, our target list just got smaller.

Who else would you like to see us target in free agency?

diabsoule · 03-03-2007, 02:06 PM

I wonder why we're bringing in a FS. Are we giving up on Bullocks?

diabsoule · 03-03-2007, 02:07 PM

I like the re-signing of Stinch. I think him and Strief are going to compete over the starting job in camp and if no matter who wins, it means we will have good depth.

03-03-2007, 02:17 PM

I'm not big on Simmons. Declining numbers with increasing age. Only 38 tackles and zero sacks last year. I'd pass on him.

Auron · 03-03-2007, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by diabsoule

I wonder why we're bringing in a FS. Are we giving up on Bullocks?

With Hamlin, Grant, and Kaesviharn coming in for visits. I think that means the coaching is staff is either.. just about done with Bullocks, or Harper's knee isn't progressing as well as hoped.

Saints Dome Patrol · 03-04-2007, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by diabsoule

I wonder why we're bringing in a FS. Are we giving up on Bullocks?

Ken Hamlin is a strong safety, so possibly (and I hope not), Roman Harper may not be completely healed up from his injury last season.

diabsoule · 03-04-2007, 01:16 PM

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/395977

Hamlin is listed as a FS. It is possible that he could play both positions. Plus he's only 26.

Sveen · 03-04-2007, 01:44 PM

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In addition to free agent safety Ken Hamlin, former 49ers defensive tackle Anthony Adams is scheduled to visit the Saints on Sunday

Source: Rotoworld.com

Auron · 03-04-2007, 09:20 PM

First outside FA signing according to NFL Network Adam Schefter reported that the Saints and Bengals LB Brian Simmons are expected to agree to terms on Monday, March 5th.

waiting to find out what comes of this, maybe we'll add Hamlin, Kaesviharn, or Grant as well.

diabsoule · 03-05-2007, 04:37 AM

I think that'd be a very nice signing as it would provide an upgrade at MLB over Mark Simoneau. I still think it is possible that we might go after Donnie Edwards as well since Brian Simmons can play OLB.

Sveen · 03-05-2007, 06:36 AM

I would love to see us upgrading the positions at need in FA so that we can go after the BPA in the Draft :)

Brian Simmons and Ken Hamlin would be good signings.

reznola · 03-05-2007, 11:10 AM

I like the idea of bring Hamlin in his age and experience is a plus, but don't like Simmons coming in. If you are going to bring in a MLB in his 30's you might as well bring in Edwards.