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Old 03-03-2007, 11:14 AM    (permalink
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i know people are gonna question my list but who cares
hows Woodson even ahead of Harris? hes not even the best packer CB yet alone top 5
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Old 03-03-2007, 11:22 AM    (permalink
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Well how about what Bodden did, in 2005 when he was healthy, he shut down Chad Johnson, Moss, Heap, Jimmy Smith, among others, (I dont remember the 2005 schedule 100%, but he shut down some more)

Great CB, underrated, played with 2 sprained ankles this year.
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Imagine how much money Samuel would have got in Free Agency?
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Old 03-03-2007, 11:26 AM    (permalink
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Imagine how much money Samuel would have got in Free Agency?
Yeah really, probably 85 million and about 30 million guaranteed.

EDIT : If he got 8 years that is.
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Old 03-03-2007, 11:33 AM    (permalink
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I would have taken Samuel in Free Agency over Clements.
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Old 03-03-2007, 11:38 AM    (permalink
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He's probably one of the 10 to 12 best, but there are still guys who are considered better corners making a lot less $ like Bailey, Mathis, McAlister, Winfield, etc. He got overpaid, but in about 5 years there will be more guys with bigger deals.
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Old 03-03-2007, 11:44 AM    (permalink
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ohow come there is no love for ronder barber on everyones list?
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Old 03-03-2007, 11:54 AM    (permalink
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wow i cant belive i forgot about him i would have him over nate
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Old 03-03-2007, 03:55 PM    (permalink
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Once again, since you people can't comprehend this, the contract is 6 years 45 million w/ 22 guaranteed. Clements will not see years 7 and 8.

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I understand that, but the signing bonus is what gets me.
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Old 03-03-2007, 03:59 PM    (permalink
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I'd put him anywhere in the 6-12 range.
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Old 03-03-2007, 04:03 PM    (permalink
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He's top 10, and he looked a lot worse than he is this past season for a couple of reasons. One being that he doesn't fit in the Cover 2 very well, IMO. The other being that he probably didn't want to be in Buffalo. He'll be decent in San Fran (as good as anyone could expect). Just like any corner, if your pass rush blows he's eventually going to give up some long ones.
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What I think heading into the '07 season:

1. Champion Bailey
2. Asante Samuel
3. Rashean Mathis
4. Chris McAlister
5. Nnamdi Asomugha
6. DeAngelo Hall
7. Ronde Barber
8. Nate Clements
9. Lito Sheppard
10. Dre' Bly
11. Walt Harris
12. Al Harris
13. Antoine Winfield
14. Samari Rolle
15. Charles Woodson

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Old 03-03-2007, 04:24 PM    (permalink
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Hard to rank CB's because some are better suited for a Cover 2 while others excel at man-to-man.
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Old 03-03-2007, 04:28 PM    (permalink
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Champ Bailey is on his pedestal on then the tier bellow champ is where Nate is
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Cover 2 corners don't count, per Deion Sanders.
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What I think heading into the '07 season:

1. Champion Bailey
2. Asante Samuel
3. Rashean Mathis
4. Chris McAlister
5. Nnamdi Asomugha
6. DeAngelo Hall
7. Ronde Barber
8. Nate Clements
9. Lito Sheppard
11. Walt Harris
12. Al Harris
13. Antoine Winfield
14. Samari Rolle
15. Charles Woodson
My list would go something like...

BTW, where's #10?

1.) Champion Bailey
2.) Asante Samuel
3.) Chris McAlister
4.) Nate Clements
5.) Rashean Mathis
6.) Samari Rolle
7.) Lito Sheppard
8.) Walt Harris
9.) Antoine Winfield
10.) Nnamdi Asomugha
11.) DeAngelo Hall
12.) Charles Woodson
13.) Al Harris
14.) Ronde Barber (Because of his age)
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I understand that, but the signing bonus is what gets me.
Bingo. They will be absolutely screwed if they ever need to restructure his contract.
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Edited it to add in Dre' Bly. I had him at 9, but then changed my mind and put Lito Sheppard above him, and forgot to put Bly back it at 10.

He's gonna have a very good season with Bailey opposite him. Kinda like Woodson getting 8 interceptions with Harris opposite him. Another thing, Al Harris is superior to Woodson.
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What I think heading into the '07 season:

1. Champion Bailey
2. Asante Samuel
3. Rashean Mathis
4. Chris McAlister
5. Nnamdi Asomugha
6. DeAngelo Hall
7. Ronde Barber
8. Nate Clements
9. Lito Sheppard
10. Dre' Bly
11. Walt Harris
12. Al Harris
13. Antoine Winfield
14. Samari Rolle
15. Charles Woodson
Any list that has Samari Rolle as a top 15 corner is a horrible list.
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He had a really poor '05. I think it's because he became complacent, knowing he was going to be tagged by the team. Once he knew he was going to make a big deal, he stepped his game back up.
Yea, now that he has got his big pay day, you think he'll continue to play at that same high level? What's his motivation?
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Two lists with Samari Rolle in the top 15, LOL
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My list would go something like...

BTW, where's #10?

1.) Champion Bailey
2.) Asante Samuel
3.) Chris McAlister
4.) Nate Clements
5.) Rashean Mathis
6.) Samari Rolle
7.) Lito Sheppard
8.) Walt Harris
9.) Antoine Winfield
10.) Nnamdi Asomugha
11.) DeAngelo Hall
12.) Charles Woodson
13.) Al Harris
14.) Ronde Barber (Because of his age)
Lito Shepard is not that good.Switch him and Hall and switch Al Harris with Woodson. Samari Rolle should slide down a couple spots. Ty Law isnt top 15? Ricky Manning?
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LMAO those lists suck. Terence Newman isn't on either? and DeAngelo Hall, Ty Law, Ronde Barber, Ricky Manning, and Samari Rolle are, who all suck?

Come on guys, learn the position of CB before you post.
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Newman should be in the top 10, the guy doens't get many Int but he doesn't allow many TDs either.
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