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Old 03-05-2007, 04:31 PM    (permalink
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The guy couldn't even break into the starting lineup for the Falcons... THE FALCONS!

He's even more inconsistent than Michael Jenkins and Roddy White. That hurts.
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The guy couldn't even break into the starting lineup for the Falcons... THE FALCONS!

He's even more inconsistent than Michael Jenkins and Roddy White. That hurts.

Something like that. It's probably because we didn't conform to his only talent like Denver did, and made him *gasp* run routes and play inside. Towards the end of the season, he was phased out of the offense. As he too caught the dropsies.
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Something like that. It's probably because we didn't conform to his only talent, and made him *gasp* run routes and play physical.
Well theres your problem. Lelie has the inability to make a cut.
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Well theres your problem. Lelie has the inability to make a cut.
Stop acting like a douche, Lelie will be a solid contributer to the niners.
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Stop acting like a douche, Lelie will be a solid contributer to the niners.
Thats what they thought in Atlanta too.
Im not acting like a douche. It's almost half the contract Dennis Northcutt got. .. Dennis Northcutt!! You don't pay a guy 2mil/year to be your #1WR.

Battle is a better reciever. Lelie will be lucky to start.
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Thats what they thought in Atlanta too.
Two reasons and one which I've already explained. Mike Vick is a terrible pocket passer. The guy pretty much looks at his first read which will most likely will be Alge Crumpler and if his first read is not there Vick will take off running. Vick never goes through his full progressions like a good pocket passer is supposed to.

Second reason is Ashley Lelie is not West Coast Offense Wr. A Typical WCO Wr is a guy who gives you yards after the catch because the WCO is a more precised short passing offense. Lelie is a deep threat Wr who will scretch the field which is exactly what you need in the Coryell offense the 49ers run.
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Two reasons and one which I've had already explained. Mike Vick is a terrible pocket passer. The guy pretty much looks at his first read which will most likely be Alge Crumpler and if his first read is not there Vick will take off running. Vick never goes through his full progressions like a good pocket passer is supposed to.
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White - 64
Jenkins - 83
Lelie - 68
Crumpler - 103

Pretty well spread out for "1 read and go." Maybe it was because Crumpler was the only reliable receiver he had? All of them had dropsies down the stretch, Crumpler included. Not only that, Lelie was out muscled in every 'me or him' situation with the ball in the air. He was the same way in Denver, of which I saw plenty of him because of where I live. He has always had an awful catch %, with every team he's been on. His slight decline in performance was due to volume, playing time and passes, in '06. Since when did all these 49ers fans become Lelie fans? Oh yeah, when their team signed him. I respect Craigo for actually not showing the characteristics of a sheep. He is a decent signing, but besides '04, he hasn't been very good. He isn't an upgrade over Antonio Bryant, on the field that is.
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How long are ATL fans gonna blame the receivers before they wake up?
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good move... they need WRs desperately
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Realese Bryant and Sign Lelie ??????????
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Realese Bryant and Sign Lelie ??????????
Less money, less problems, but less talent. Same type of reciever though. Only less physical.

Don't get me wrong, I like the signing... but he's a #3.

And about Mike Vick somehow causing recievers to drop open passes ALL THE TIME, two works: come on.

Theres a big difference between missing guys and dropping passes, this is why Vicks percentage is low. Crumpler made the pro bowl, and that guy probably dropped more passes than any tight end in the league. Jerramy Stevens included. But his numbers were high because Vick found him in the endzone with great passes every game. Watch the games. It's not Vicks fault most of the time.

You could probably make a good highlight video of Crumpler, Lelie, White and Jenkins dropping pass after pass. And you could probably put a good 'circus' theme song in the background too, if one was so inclined.
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How long are ATL fans gonna blame the receivers before they wake up?
Let's see... Vick is... 26... let's say he plays until he's... thirty-three or thirty-four. I say 7 to 8 years.
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White - 64
Jenkins - 83
Lelie - 68
Crumpler - 103

Pretty well spread out for "1 read and go." Maybe it was because Crumpler was the only reliable receiver he had? All of them had dropsies down the stretch, Crumpler included. Not only that, Lelie was out muscled in every 'me or him' situation with the ball in the air. He was the same way in Denver, of which I saw plenty of him because of where I live. He has always had an awful catch %, with every team he's been on. His slight decline in performance was due to volume, playing time and passes, in '06. Since when did all these 49ers fans become Lelie fans? Oh yeah, when their team signed him. I respect Craigo for actually not showing the characteristics of a sheep. He is a decent signing, but besides '04, he hasn't been very good.

He isn't an upgrade over Antonio Bryant, on the field that is.
And your just basing that off the one bad year he had with the falcons. After he missed all the the OTA's, Mini Camps and all of training camp. I'm sure Bryant would of struggled with the niners also had he been brought to the team that late. It's hard to get on the same page with a QB when no continuity and timing are devloped in the offseason, especially for a poor pocket passer like Vick.
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