Draft Countdown Forums

Go Back   Draft Countdown Forums > Draft Countdown Forums > College Football

College Football Discuss College Football

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-14-2009, 12:21 PM    (permalink
Hawk
Pro Bowler
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Rod Wilks is watching you.
Posts: 2,845
Reputation: 152993
Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
Kiffin's lack of self-awareness is stunning. He reminds me of Michael Scott from the Office, everytime he opens his mouth I cringe.

The New York Times and the NCAA are jealous of your recruiting? Huh? It's like taunting the judge before the sentence is given, just shut the **** up.
You don't get it, he craves the attention. He wants his face all over the media whether people have good things to say or bad. Recruits like his attitude and cockiness. I'm pretty sure he's aware of what's going on. Its part of his plan and its worked so far. The NCAA won't do anything but slap us on the wrist and wave their finger at us, because they have no evidence of any wrongdoing. Or at least not enough for a major violation.

Why wouldn't people be jealous of our recruiting. Yeah Kiffin talks a lot, but he had a top 10 class last year in limited time, and will secure another top 10 if not top 5 class this year. Its something for other schools to be envious of.
__________________


Hawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2009, 12:33 PM    (permalink
bearsfan_51
The Professor (Hall of Famer)
Legend
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
Posts: 36,096
Reputation: 2295780
bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

I totally get it, and he is a moron. Court jesters and lunatics often craved attention in the middle ages as well, they usually would up without a head.

I could care less if other schools are jealous of Tennessee, that's not why this investigation is occuring. He has repeatedly shown that he either doesn't understand or doesn't care about NCAA guidelines, and the end of this trainwreck is so obviously coming.

I've never seen a head coach flaunt their stupidity in this manner before.
__________________


Nobody cares about your stupid fantasy team.
bearsfan_51 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2009, 01:05 PM    (permalink
Hawk
Pro Bowler
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Rod Wilks is watching you.
Posts: 2,845
Reputation: 152993
Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
I totally get it, and he is a moron. Court jesters and lunatics often craved attention in the middle ages as well, they usually would up without a head.

I could care less if other schools are jealous of Tennessee, that's not why this investigation is occuring. He has repeatedly shown that he either doesn't understand or doesn't care about NCAA guidelines, and the end of this trainwreck is so obviously coming.

I've never seen a head coach flaunt their stupidity in this manner before.
No major violations and the program is drastically improved from a year ago. And top recruits are coming in. I don't expect him to be gone anytime soon unless we suffer a huge fall off next year. Every school gets secondary violations, they really don't matter at all. I remember we got a secondary violation in the spring for using a fog machine for recruits to enter the stadium, and it was "simulating game day activity." We don't even use a fog machine for game days. Those don't matter one bit.
__________________


Hawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2009, 02:34 PM    (permalink
bearsfan_51
The Professor (Hall of Famer)
Legend
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
Posts: 36,096
Reputation: 2295780
bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

The combination of Kiffin being a flagrant asshole and the accumulation of secondary violations is what is going to hurt him, which is my point. It's one thing to operate within a system in which everyone hypocritically breaks the rules. It's quite another to ostentatiously draw attention to yourself through the violation of said rules. He's asking to get the hammer dropped on him.
__________________


Nobody cares about your stupid fantasy team.
bearsfan_51 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2009, 07:15 PM    (permalink
TitanHope
Website Contributor
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Cloud 9
Posts: 12,924
Reputation: 5878129
TitanHope is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.TitanHope is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.TitanHope is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.TitanHope is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.TitanHope is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.TitanHope is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.TitanHope is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.TitanHope is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.TitanHope is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.TitanHope is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.TitanHope is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
The combination of Kiffin being a flagrant asshole and the accumulation of secondary violations is what is going to hurt him, which is my point. It's one thing to operate within a system in which everyone hypocritically breaks the rules. It's quite another to ostentatiously draw attention to yourself through the violation of said rules. He's asking to get the hammer dropped on him.
A first year HC accumulating 6 secondary violations is insignificant. South Carolina had a secondary violation earlier this season. What dastardly deed did they do to deserve it? "Impermissible snacks." If the SEC or NCAA wanted to bring the thundah down upon Kiffin, they could have. The SEC has the power to punish a school for secondary violations. Nothing happened.

There've been 256 secondary recruiting violations in 2009 (as of 12/10/09). Nobody gives a damn about the other 250, but because it's Kiffin's name attached to 6 of them, they all of the sudden become an issue.

Also, I thought people had moved on from claiming Kiffin was clueless/stupid/in over his head. People can knock what he says and does off the field - they have every right to not like the guy's brashness. But, he's proven that he knows quite well what's going on on the field.

In his first season, he led what looked like, prior to the season at least, one of the worst Vols teams in their history to a 7-5 record and 2nd place in the SEC East...with Jonathan Crompton at QB. The mere fact that Crompton has evolved into a legitimate QB in the SEC under Kiffin and that coaching staff's tutelage is astonishing. If somebody said that the Vols would be #2 in the SECE behind Florida prior to the season, he would've been tarred and feathered. And all of this is with Fulmer's players, which ranked 35th, 3rd, 23rd, and 4th according to Rivals Team Rankings...damn Fulmer was hit and miss, lol. Either way, Kiffin has gotten more out of those players than Fulmer did, no matter what their class rank was or how many stars they had. As far as coaching and developing players, Kiffin and Company have done a stellar job.
__________________
Still Team The Ke$ha!!!

[@TDWinstead]
Quote:
Originally Posted by MichaelJordanEberle (sabf) View Post
Damn Ke$ha is sexy.
TitanHope is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2009, 09:42 PM    (permalink
bearsfan_51
The Professor (Hall of Famer)
Legend
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
Posts: 36,096
Reputation: 2295780
bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

I'm not saying he's a bad coach, I'm saying he's a moron. You can be a moron and still coach football.

Again, you claim that people only care because it's Kiffin, and while that may be true, it's precisely because of the idiotic things he does and says, and it will cost him, mark my words.
__________________


Nobody cares about your stupid fantasy team.
bearsfan_51 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2009, 10:32 PM    (permalink
Hawk
Pro Bowler
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Rod Wilks is watching you.
Posts: 2,845
Reputation: 152993
Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
I'm not saying he's a bad coach, I'm saying he's a moron. You can be a moron and still coach football.

Again, you claim that people only care because it's Kiffin, and while that may be true, it's precisely because of the idiotic things he does and says, and it will cost him, mark my words.
Ok so because you think he is a moron, you believe that is going to cost him in the future (whatever that might be)?

Astounding logic.
__________________


Hawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2009, 02:02 AM    (permalink
bearsfan_51
The Professor (Hall of Famer)
Legend
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
Posts: 36,096
Reputation: 2295780
bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Yes, I'm the only person that things Kiffin is a moron, that's why everyone that isn't a Tennessee fan thinks the man is a pompous ass.

I've already laid out on numerous occasions why this is a much bigger deal than you fans are willing to recognize.

Stop being a homer, all of you.
__________________


Nobody cares about your stupid fantasy team.
bearsfan_51 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2009, 09:08 AM    (permalink
Hawk
Pro Bowler
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Rod Wilks is watching you.
Posts: 2,845
Reputation: 152993
Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Hawk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
Yes, I'm the only person that things Kiffin is a moron, that's why everyone that isn't a Tennessee fan thinks the man is a pompous ass.

I've already laid out on numerous occasions why this is a much bigger deal than you fans are willing to recognize.

Stop being a homer, all of you.

Well mark my words, the most that will come out of this will be a secondary violation.
__________________


Hawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2009, 11:02 AM    (permalink
JRTPlaya21
All-Pro
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: 804
Posts: 7,696
Reputation: 263811
JRTPlaya21 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.JRTPlaya21 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.JRTPlaya21 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.JRTPlaya21 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.JRTPlaya21 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.JRTPlaya21 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.JRTPlaya21 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.JRTPlaya21 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.JRTPlaya21 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.JRTPlaya21 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.JRTPlaya21 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Vols dismiss Brent Vinson.
JRTPlaya21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2009, 01:00 PM    (permalink
CashmoneyDrew
Icon
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Ohhhhh yeeeaahhyya
Posts: 16,455
Reputation: 4232269
CashmoneyDrew is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CashmoneyDrew is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CashmoneyDrew is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CashmoneyDrew is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CashmoneyDrew is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CashmoneyDrew is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CashmoneyDrew is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CashmoneyDrew is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CashmoneyDrew is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CashmoneyDrew is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CashmoneyDrew is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JRTPlaya21 View Post
Vols dismiss Brent Vinson.
Doesn't have anything to do with the investigation just to clear that up.
__________________
Credit to BoneKrusher for the Sig
RIP themaninblack
CashmoneyDrew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-19-2009, 12:59 PM    (permalink
nrk
Pro Bowler
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Norman, OK
Posts: 3,288
Reputation: 305536
nrk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.nrk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.nrk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.nrk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.nrk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.nrk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.nrk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.nrk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.nrk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.nrk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.nrk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
You don't get it, he craves the attention. He wants his face all over the media whether people have good things to say or bad. Recruits like his attitude and cockiness. I'm pretty sure he's aware of what's going on. Its part of his plan and its worked so far. The NCAA won't do anything but slap us on the wrist and wave their finger at us, because they have no evidence of any wrongdoing. Or at least not enough for a major violation.

Why wouldn't people be jealous of our recruiting. Yeah Kiffin talks a lot, but he had a top 10 class last year in limited time, and will secure another top 10 if not top 5 class this year. Its something for other schools to be envious of.
Why wouldn't people be jealous of your recruiting? Because the same schools have been in the top of recruiting the last years. Tennessee getting back up there isn't something to be jealous of. Especially when you're coach is a jackass causing violations and makes your university look bad in the process.
__________________

Sig by Hitman D.
nrk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-22-2009, 11:54 PM    (permalink
Cigaro
All-Pro
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Two-thirds of the Earth is covered by water, the other one-third is covered by Luke Kuechly
Posts: 9,667
Reputation: 2246941
Cigaro is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Cigaro is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Cigaro is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Cigaro is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Cigaro is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Cigaro is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Cigaro is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Cigaro is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Cigaro is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Cigaro is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Cigaro is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
It would be premature for anybody to speculate what will come of this. But basically, if the NCAA decides Tennessee coaches had anything to do with, knew about or were negligent in any way concerning the hostesses' trip over to Duncan, S.C, to see the Byrnes High School prospects play, then the Vols are probably looking at major violations.

Otherwise, it's probably going to be more secondary in nature, but even secondary violations could lead to penalties, especially if the NCAA thinks a pattern has been established.

It's never a good thing when the NCAA is poking around, certainly not this close to signing day. As one former administrator in the SEC was fond of saying, "They're not out there just racking up frequent flier miles."
http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/i...ary-violations

(Note: No one is pushing this guy as an expert on the matter, so let's not go down that road)
__________________


Sig by Matthew Jones
Cigaro is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:53 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.