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Old 12-22-2009, 02:21 PM    (permalink
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I don't know why, but some of us are too quick to throw a QB on the trash heap less than 5 years into their NFL career.

Brohm still has great tools and may yet develop into a solid NFL QB, especially if he hooks up with an OC who believes in his upside.

The recent early success of many young QBs has placed an artificial timeline on when a young QB is expected to emerge.

We're not talking about RBs. QB is by far the most difficult position in the NFL for a player to excel.

I believe in Brohm!!
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First Buffalo grabbed Nall from Green Bay now Brohm... (Giggle)

I was all over the Brohm as a 2nd round pick bandwagon, but he showed 0 potential on the field. Yeah I suppose it's way too early to throw him "on the trash heap", but there just didn't seem to be any growth or anything to get excited about.
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First Buffalo grabbed Nall from Green Bay now Brohm... (Giggle)

I was all over the Brohm as a 2nd round pick bandwagon, but he showed 0 potential on the field. Yeah I suppose it's way too early to throw him "on the trash heap", but there just didn't seem to be any growth or anything to get excited about.
Thats just it. With Rodgers I remember when there was clamering for him to go to NFL Europe after his 1st year in the league. But when the 2nd year came he started to develop and show that potential.

With Brohm he never looked comfortable. Maybe a less complex offense will help but he was still sailing passes over the receivers head. He almost seems too technical and not playing with that 'feel' for the game.
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Preseason and TC performances shouldn't always be included, Jarrett looks like a probowler in TC and he's about to be cut and Moore looked abhorrent this year and he's 2-1 in delhomme's absence.
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Brohm will win the last 2 games and be so good the NFL will give us the #1 seed. Count on it.
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On another note: I wish the Bills would trade Lee Evans
With how we use Evans, he's pretty much as big a waste of a big contract as you'll find.
It sucks, because he's super good. We always do better when we throw to him. We just don't.
I pray that Brohm can at least do that.

But Evans can never leave, because I luvs him.
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With how we use Evans, he's pretty much as big a waste of a big contract as you'll find.
It sucks, because he's super good. We always do better when we throw to him. We just don't.
I pray that Brohm can at least do that.

But Evans can never leave, because I luvs him.
Lee Evans has been one of my favorite players since he was drafted.
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Gosh darnit! I would think Brohm would be a better pickup for the Raiders than Bills' castoff Losman.
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Gosh darnit! I would think Brohm would be a better pickup for the Raiders than Bills' castoff Losman.
JP can throw the longball. It was always going to end this way.
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JP can throw the longball. It was always going to end this way.
But Gradkowski can't. And he started 4 games.
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But Gradkowski can't. And he started 4 games.
The fact that it took 9 games until they let Gradkowski start over Jamarcus freaking Russell is actually an argument in favor of their long ball fetish.
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The fact that it took 9 games until they let Gradkowski start over Jamarcus freaking Russell is actually an argument in favor of their long ball fetish.
Or that they wanted to continue to give their #1 overall pick the opportunity to succeed.
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I watched Brohm when he was with the Packers and he was about as bad as you could get. I saw 0 progress from him during his tenure.Its still early but if he can become a player on the Bills good for them. I just don't see it happening.
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Or that they wanted to continue to give their #1 overall pick the opportunity to succeed.
because he is a longball thrower.

I honestly believe the logic behind Jawalrus' drafting was 'ZOMG teh ARMMMM'
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Funny that we're seeing Aaron Rodgers, Brian Brohm, and now Matt Flynn play today.
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With how we use Evans, he's pretty much as big a waste of a big contract as you'll find.
It sucks, because he's super good. We always do better when we throw to him. We just don't.
I pray that Brohm can at least do that.

But Evans can never leave, because I luvs him.
Bengals will trade for Lee lol. We need a deep threat with Ocho.
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Obviously the Pack is committed to Rodgers, he'd have to be nuts to turn down Buffalo. Good pickup considering it costs them nothing.
You mean go to a team where the chances of getting released and never being heard from again is a good thing? Seriously, I think he'll be a training camp cut when the new coach tries to install "his guys" onto the team.

I mean, what do you do with someone else's 3rd QB.

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because he is a longball thrower.

I honestly believe the logic behind Jawalrus' drafting was 'ZOMG teh ARMMMM'
Because it's a 'ZOMG aww fence". You don't put Water-pistol Pennington into the Al Davis offense. You need that big arm to play in it. Obviously it's easy to look back and say that was stupid but maybe they thought he'd work hard when he got into the NFL.

I really don't know what he was like at LSU.

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You mean go to a team where the chances of getting released and never being heard from again is a good thing? Seriously, I think he'll be a training camp cut when the new coach tries to install "his guys" onto the team.

I mean, what do you do with someone else's 3rd QB.

At least as a packer he would sit on the bench collecting a check.
Actually Brohm was on our practice squad so he's earning more being on the 53 man roster in Buffalo. The Packers also refused to match the $10k bonus that the Bills gave Brohm to sign him to their practice squad before they moved him up to their 53 man because of injuries to Fitzpatrick and Edwards. Not too mention its adding service time towards his NFL pension.
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Actually Brohm was on our practice squad so he's earning more being on the 53 man roster in Buffalo.
I was under the impression he left because he had no hope behind aaron rodgers but that both teams wanted to move him into the active roster.
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I was under the impression he left because he had no hope behind aaron rodgers but that both teams wanted to move him into the active roster.
Nope we kept him on the roster his rookie season because we were hoping that he'd develop. That never happened so we cut him during the final cuts when we were going down to 53. He could've signed with a few other teams practice squads at that time but choose to stay in GB because he wanted to continue to learn the same offense. He left because the Packers didn't want to pay him the $10k bonus to stay on our practice squad. The Packers had no reason to move him to the active roster seeing Rodgers has stayed healthy and Matt Flynn is the better QB.
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You mean go to a team where the chances of getting released and never being heard from again is a good thing? Seriously, I think he'll be a training camp cut when the new coach tries to install "his guys" onto the team.

I mean, what do you do with someone else's 3rd QB.

At least as a packer he would sit on the bench collecting a check.
Well if he had the kind of zero self confidence it would take to act like you've proposed he shouldn't be in the NFL anyway, he can get a real job.

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Because it's a 'ZOMG aww fence". You don't put Water-pistol Pennington into the Al Davis offense. You need that big arm to play in it. Obviously it's easy to look back and say that was stupid but maybe they thought he'd work hard when he got into the NFL.

I really don't know what he was like at LSU.
When they drafted him the offense was run by a guy they brought off the street from running a bed and breakfast. It was easy to look at it and say it was stupid at the time. I obviously don't have a problem with a deep ball centered passing game but somewhere along the line someone needed to call BS on Jamarcus as a #1 pick. His accuracy is honestly hilarious. He was a late first or later prospect until facing the Notre Dame defense which was even more horrible than usual that year. As far as reading defenses, well we are 3 years down the line and he is still the worst in the NFL at it so you can imagine what he was like as a collegiate. The arm is absolutely the only reason he was drafted so high.
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His accuracy is honestly hilarious.
I may be way off base here, but I could have sworn that the accuracy he displayed in the SEC was a big reason people rated him higher than Quinn and that it had improved each season. I may be thinking of someone else, but I'm almost certain it was Russell.

The other thing I remember was people kept mentioning his mobility and that he was more mobile than Quinn despite the fact that there was absolutely nothing to support it, he was bigger, slower, had worse YPC averages, less rushing yards but I remember people arguing passionately he was mobile.

Of course, the work ethic thing is what has done him in, it was not any kind of lack of natural ability and really, that has been a consistent failure with players at the Raiders. See Randy Moss, Russell, Gallery, Woodson and Huff as recent guys who had all the talent in the world but never did anything at Oakland, Woodson and Moss so far have really shown it to be a symptom of being a Raider as much as anything. It seems to take the truly special guys to do anything there which is pretty much Aso over the last 5 years.
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