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Old 03-18-2010, 01:03 PM    (permalink
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Have faith. There's still 40 more movies to that list.
The list failed by having Big Lebowski not top 10.
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You know who else could play Captain America? Josh Holloway, if he lost the Southern Accent. Hes got the look.
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Plus IIRC all the movies in his list come from the 2000-2010 decade.
What does IIRC mean?

All the movies from my list actually don't come from that decade, but, hey, that's no big deal.

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The list failed by having Big Lebowski not top 10.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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What does IIRC mean?

All the movies from my list actually don't come from that decade, but, hey, that's no big deal.

If I remember correctly.

And if the vast majority of your 'best movies' come from the 21st century it does matter. Especially considering only a few of the movies you put on your list would actually ever be on a real 'best movies' list.
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Continue on with the list goddammit.
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I'd personally have NCFOM and The Big Lebowski higher, but its not a bad start. I can agree with comments regarding 40 Year Old Virgin, but it's not a bad movie so I wont judge somebody's comedic preferences. We'll see how this goes.

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If I remember correctly.

And if the vast majority of your 'best movies' come from the 21st century it does matter. Especially considering only a few of the movies you put on your list would actually ever be on a real 'best movies' list.
Look at that, ya learn something new everyday.


I'm not trying to make a "real best movies" list. This is my list, and, personally, I think these are some great movies. If I started it with Seven Samuri, would that give me a real best movies list? The vast majority will come from this decade and they will be American movies. Just go ahead and get the name calling out of the way right now.


I tried to watch Close Encounters of the Third for the second time and fell asleep. Richard Dreyfuss is so annoying in it. Looks kinda stupid. Not sure if I should give it a third try or if it's even worth it.
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I'd personally have NCFOM and The Big Lebowski higher, but its not a bad start. I can agree with comments regarding 40 Year Old Virgin, but it's not a bad movie so I wont judge somebody's comedic preferences. We'll see how this goes.



Holloway needs to be stashed away for Gambit purposes.
No, Taylor Klistch is Gambit, remember.
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Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
If I remember correctly.

And that is a correct opinion by Mr Bengals.
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The Big Lebowski being a top 10 movie is not opinion. It is fact as supported by Mr. Jackie Treehorn. An upstanding citizen.
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No, Taylor Klistch is Gambit, remember.
So you're admitting that movie happened now?

I never saw it and I don't know much of Kitsch, but we all know it should be Holloway.
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So you're admitting that movie happened now?

I never saw it and I don't know much of Kitsch, but we all know it should be Holloway.
Kitsch is a more capable actor than Holloway.
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Kitsch was far from the worst thing about that movie.
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I believe it, I just always liked the thought of Holloway for Gambit.
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40. Pulp Fiction, 1994. (Quentin Tarantino)

Pulp Fiction is consider Tarantino's masterpiece, although I'm not sure it's a perfect film. I think he's incapable of making a perfect film, because this could have been it. I felt he came relatively close with one-upping himself this past year with Inglorious Basterds, but time and more viewings will tell how I feel about that film. Pulp Fiction is vintage Tarantino. Wrapped in provocative and seemingly endless dialogue, Pulp Fiction is a fascinating film of fascinating characters. I do think this is a flawed film mostly because Bruce Willis overstays his welcome. John Travolta, however, is incredible and Samuel L. Jackson is a bad ************. Uma Thurman plays Marcellus Wallace's (Ving Rhames) wife, Mia, and her only importance to film is to be entertained by Vincent Vega (John Travolta) on a date that's not quite a date. Travolta, for me, is the real stand out. When he's on screen, his scenes, whether Jackson is next to him or not, are full of energy and pulp. He does a lot of listening, some dancing, a lot of banter and offers up a ton of comedic moments. His best scenes are with Uma Thurman when they go to Jackrabbit Slims. This little date, where they talk about nothing of any importance as far plot is concerned, is funny, engrossing and entertaining. I don't know why it never gets old, but it doesn't. The acting between the two is simply outstanding and both were worthy of their Oscar nominations for Best Actor and Best Supporting Actress respectively. This section of the film is the strongest of the three, along with "The Bonnie Situation." The writing and acting is superb in both, and pretty much flawless. This date leads to an overdose as Mia takes a line of Vincent's heroine while he's in the bathroom making plans to jerkoff later in the night. The direction here is much in the mold of a graphic Hitchcock film. To add to the suspense the owner of the house counts to three (Something that happens quite a bit in the film). As he slowly counts to three we see all the nervously waiting faces in the entire room (Something Leone would be proud of if it had dragged on ten minutes longer). We get a close-up shot on the needle that's cocked back and ready to strike. We get a close-up on the red dot where the needle needs to hit. It slowly builds the scene and the suspense. Tarantino handles this scene and all the others with a ton of precision and even more confidence. His direction was vastly improved from his previous film, Reservoir Dogs. This is a classic.


39. Fight Club, 1999. (David Fincher)

One of my favorite directors, David Fincher creates a world so dark and so unique that his style matches the tone of Fight Club to utter perfection. This, to me, is Fincher's masterpiece. A lot of people might have differing opinions on what's Fincher's best, but a very underrated work of his, and a film that just barely missed the cut, is Zodiac. Se7en is similar and has more of a cult following, and for good reason, it is a fantastic film, but Zodiac is a near masterpiece itself. The style and look of his films are darkly engrossing. Here, Brad Pitt is as good as ever, which is a big upgrade over his miscast performance in Se7en, one reason why I don't like it as much as most do. Who is Tyler Durden? Brad Pitt is. Can you imagine any other actor pulling this performance off anywhere close to what Pitt does? I cannot. Its like trying to imagine Leonardo DiCaprio playing Patrick Batemen in American Psycho. I can't imagine just how much a failure that film would have been without Chrisitian Bale. Like Bale, Pitt was born to play this role. Fincher handles the ideas of Chuck Palahniuk's original source material to pure perfection. There's one scene that sums up the film better than any other. As the narrator is half asleep, Tyler Durden is talking about his vision of a perfect world... "In the world I see - you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty car pool lane of some abandoned superhighway."


38. Blow, 2001. (Ted Demme)

Blow is simply one of my favorite movies ever made. With that said, this shows just how much Johnny Depp truly frustrates me. I hate that he's constantly taking makeup soaked performances for looney toon characters. Blow and Donnie Brasco are what frustrates me, because he's just so damn good here, we just never see enough of these great dramatic performances he's capable of. Even though his Boston accent is pretty wishy-washy here, to put it nicely, he gives a truly heartbreaking performance. Admittedly, Blow is a bit cliched and formulaic, but its effective every step of the way. It's as much a story of a man attempting to provide and love his daughter as it as a man that rises in the drug trafficking industry. The final moments of the film are incredibly tender and emotionally provoking. A movie that went from a cool gangster film to an emotionally powerful story of a man attempting to change his life for his daughter. This is a true masterpiece.


37. Running Scared, 2006. (Wayne Kramer)

Wayne Kramer is already one of my favorite directors despite his limited work load. With The Cooler and Running Scared, Kramer shows the ability to evoke pure excitement through action or great dialogue. He also got a pretty good performance from Paul Walker, which has never been done before, so that is feat in its own right. The camera work is incredible and gives a very delirious feeling. The lighting, shot design, blocking, shot set-ups, and editing are simply phenomenal. All these touches give the film a tone, texture and mood that makes it all its own. This is not a film that is based upon realism, but surrealism and imagination. Kramer does a phenomenal job in capturing the the tone and attitude of his characters and how we perceive them. Lester "the Pimp" is a cartoon. He's the exact model of how we perceive stereotypical pimps. He talks black, he dresses in a flamboyant manner, he beats women, he's open to any kind of violence and he's completely ruthless. Oleg comes across a homeless man, who looks exactly like the homeless man behind the store in Mulholland Dr. The two pedophiles are seen through opaque glass looking like something straight out of Nosferatu. Kramer has no intention in making these characters real, set in a real city or actual time. The city is so dark and filled with so much evil, that it's unworldly. The majority of these supporting characters are different kinds of evil, and you basically have one family trapped inside a Hellish underworld where they simply don't belong. It's a great fairy tale. I also think Elizabeth Mitchell gives an astonishing performance.



36. Predator, 1987. (John McTiernan)

This is classic B-Moive entertainment and one of my all-time favorite science fiction films. Predator is a pretty astonishing film with some incredible makeup and costume design that holds even to todays standards. Arnold Schwarzenegger is as good here as ever. This isn't the iconic role that made him who he is in Terminator 2: Judgment Day, but this is another great performance from a great action star. Predator takes us into the jungle of Guatemala and impresses upon us one of the greatest creatures ever imagined. The look of the actual Predator is impeccable, and the war between man and alien that ensues is chock-full of great action and hand-to-hand combat against mankind's most impressive human being. The finale and final thirty minutes of the film are utter perfection with some great cinematography. Even awful sequels can't ruin this classic. A great musical score matches a slew great and interesting characters. GET TO THE CHOPPER!!!!



35. Jaws, 1975. (Steven Spielberg)

Spielberg's first film on my list is arguably his best. Jaws is an incredible achievement that plays on the fears of audiences with little more than open water and one of the most recognizable musical scores in the history of cinema. Spielberg does a fantastic job of keeping the shark a secret and showing as little of the shark as actually possible. This holds our attention, because true fear is marked by the unknown and what lies beneath the surface. Robert Shaw gives a career defining performance. He has a highly memorable speech and one of the best movie deaths I've ever seen. Spielberg's direction is nearly flawless, which creates one of the most thrilling films ever made. It is called the first blockbuster. Well, I don't know or care about any of that. It's a masterpiece and incredibly enjoyable.



34. Rocky, 1976. (John Avildsen)

What makes Rocky so great? It is the ultimate story of opportunity and heart, how they meet and the magic that can be created when an underdog is given a chance. Rocky symbolizes everything America is about. No matter who you are, how high or low you are on the totem pole, you can achieve anything. Sylvester Stallone is phenomenal and gives the best acting performance of his career... without question. There is not another actor you could imagine as the Italian Stallion, and since he wrote it, no one knew the character better than Stallone himself. This a triumphant film with an incredible score, phenomenal story and a heart at the center that never stops beating. The greatest thing about this movie, Rocky loses. Instead of going overboard, and what many might call pure fantasy or into Hollywood land, Rocky firmly stays on the ground in realism. This is one of the most inspiring films on this list and one of my favorites. It also has some excellent sequels with great villains... like Drago.



33. Talk to Me, 2007. (Kasi Lemmons)

At #33 is the criminally underrated masterpiece, Talk to Me. Don Cheadle gives the performance of his career, and, unfortunately, no one's seen it. Now, I have seen multiple movies that dramatize the death of a historical leader, a president, whatever, and we've seen it done a million times, but there is a scene in Talk to Me that makes everything before it look incompetent in attempting what Talk to Me pulls off flawlessly. When Martin Luther King Jr. is assassinated, Petey Green goes on the air and talks. The words, the power behind them and, most of all, the performance of Don Cheadle is as great as acting gets. It's one of the most powerful moments in any film I've sen. Chiwetel Ejiofor, who is capable of pure greatness, is also quite impressive as well, but Don Cheadle is so powerful, he nearly blows anyone next to him off the screen. Tarji P. Henson is also great and full of life that lights up the film every time she's on it. This is one of my favorite biopics ever made. Talk to Me will make you laugh in one scene and then cry in the next. It's one of the best films of the decade and the third film on my list from the year 2007.


32. The Sixth Sense, 1999. (M. Night Shyamalan)

M. Night Shyamalan hit a high point in the late 90s and early 00s with The Sixth Sense and Unbreakable. Both are his very best films, but The Sixth Sense is undoubtedly his best. This is the ultimate twist movie. It shocks and amazes with such a forceful blindside that I never saw it coming, and still can't get over how I didn't catch it. From what I've heard, I wasn't the only one. A simple story about a kid that sees dead people, the film handles the plot with such care and ambition, as well as balls since it blows the twist midway through the film. Donnie Wahlberg was unrecognizable and simply incredible. Haley Joel Osment is what makes this film so perfect. One of the best performances from a child actor ever given and, without it, this isn't half the movie it attempts to be. And big kudos to Shyamalan for getting a good performance from Bruce Willis as well. I have seen many of his films and he's usually pretty bad, even in Pulp Ficition. Shyamalan got an even better performance from Willis the following year in the aforementioned Unbreakable. My favorite scene is when Haley Joel Osment tells his mother, played incredibly well by Toni Collette, about all his secrets while they sit in traffic because of a deadly accident ahead. A touching a emotionally powerful scene ensues. This is without question a masterpiece.



31. Mystic River, 2003. (Clint Eastwood)

Mystic River is a masterpiece for Clint Eastwood that was an incredible adaptation of a Dennis Lehan novel. The film stars Sean Penn as Jimmy Markum. Penn, who has so many great performances in his career, might give his best here. This is a truly remarkable performance that allows him to dig deep into very emotional scenes and play a ruthless thug in others. He's capable of killing a best friend in one scene and showing the tender moments of a man that loves his daughter the next. Tim Robbins is often times praised for his work here, and he won an Academy Award for it, but I don't think he was anything overtly special. Then I again I hate Tim Robbins, so since I didn't hate him here, that was good enough for me. Mystic River is a depressing film, but one that is so forceful and powerful that it is hard to ignore. Eastwood creates characters we grow to believe in, care for and maybe even hate. I love the ending and thought it was perfectly edited. Laura Linney has an incredible monologue at the end of the film. I'm not sure how many actresses could pull that scene off the way she does.
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Here's my current top 20. I haven't watched a lot of movies though, so I'm sure I'm leaving a ton out that I simply haven't seen. I've been trying to catch up with Netflix.

1) Godfather
2) Godfather II
3) Shawshank Redemption
4) Good Will Hunting
5) O'Brother Where Art Thou?
6) Milk
7) Slumdog Millionaire
8) Amelie
9) A Beautiful Mind
10) The Mission
11) L.A. Confidential
12) Mr. Holland's Opus
13) Doubt
14) Fargo
15) Groundhog Day
16) The Last of the Mohicans
17) Wall-E
18) Ray
19) When Harry Met Sally
20) Blow
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