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Old 03-07-2007, 10:26 AM    (permalink
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This title should be changed to "he was offered a contract from the pats"

Not he is signed by the pats


He will look good in aqua and orange across from Chris Chambers :)
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Old 03-07-2007, 10:48 AM    (permalink
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If a player leaves a city without a contract, that is generally not great news for that city. That being said, 6 years/$32mm is better than the Eagles are likely to offer. IMO, it's also too much for a WR with chronic hamstring issues who has only played 1 full season in the NFL...
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If a player leaves a city without a contract, that is generally not great news for that city. That being said, 6 years/$32mm is better than the Eagles are likely to offer. IMO, it's also too much for a WR with chronic hamstring issues who has only played 1 full season in the NFL...
2 full seasons. He played all 16 in 2004 and 2005.
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I stand corrected. Regardless, his consistent issues with hamstring pulls due to congenital issues remain a concern.
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Old 03-07-2007, 11:42 AM    (permalink
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great move by the pats... their offense is going to be exciting
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Old 03-11-2007, 09:02 AM    (permalink
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May have been a few days early, but the end result is the same. Just pumped about this. :)
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Old 03-11-2007, 10:16 AM    (permalink
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It could potentially be a good move for NE as he brings game-changing speed to their offense. But, still... that's a lot of money for a WR that is injured most of the time and is still a bit inconsistent.
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It could potentially be a good move for NE as he brings game-changing speed to their offense. But, still... that's a lot of money for a WR that is injured most of the time and is still a bit inconsistent.
QFT, thats alot of guaranteed money to throw at a player with his kind of injury history. I thought he would really be forced to sign a 1-year deal and try to clear up that stigma.
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Old 03-11-2007, 11:17 AM    (permalink
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Kind of interesting they signed him to a contract only slightly smaller than what Seattle gave Branch.
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Kind of interesting they signed him to a contract only slightly smaller than what Seattle gave Branch.
kind of weird got the salaries increased what? 15-20 mill per team?
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Great move by them, they have by far the best offseason.
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Michael Smith of ESPN.com reports that receiver Donte' Stallworth has agreed to terms with the Patriots. But, contrary to the report, the deal does not include $12 million in guaranteed money. And it is not a straight six-year deal.

Instead, a league source tells us that it's a one-year deal with an option for a second year, and then an option for four more years.

In year one, Stallworth gets $1 million to sign, a workout bonus of $300,000, a base salary of $700,000, and a $1.6 million roster bonus payable if he makes the 53-man roster at the start of the reason.

Stallworth also can earn up to $400,000 in incentives. He'll get $100,000 if he catches 70 passes, another $100,000 if he catches 75 passes, another $100,000 if he catches 80 passes, and $100,000 if he is on the Pro Bowl team.

A $6 million option bonus is due shortly before the start of the 2008 league year, but after the deadline for designating franchise players. This requires the team to either pick up the option, or to allow Stallworth to hit the market unfettered by the franchise tag.

In 2008, there's also a $2 million roster bonus due on the first day of the league year, a $400,000 workout bonus, a $1 million base salary, and a $1.6 million roster bonus payable if he makes the season-opening 53-man roster.

In 2009, there's a $2 million option bonus, payable after the franchise tag deadline but before the start of the league year. If the option is exercised, the deal runs through 2012.

Also in 2009, Stallworth will receive a $400,000 workout bonus, a $1 million base salary, and a $1.6 million roster bonus based on making the season-opening 53-man roster.

In 2010 through 2012, the deal has the same terms in each year: $500,000 workout bonus and $4 million salary.

In all, it's a one-year $3.6 million deal that can be worth up to $4 million, or a two-year, $14.6 million deal that can be worth as much as $15 million, or a three-year, $19.6 million deal that can be worth as much as $20 million.

The Pats can then add on additional years at $4.5 million each, with a maximum contract value of $33.5 million.

But the only truly guaranteed money is $1 million. Not $12 million.
The question was asked in the other thread if the Pats were done and out of money... not by a longshot!!!!!!
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kind of weird got the salaries increased what? 15-20 mill per team?
...in English please?

All I'm pointing out is that it's interesting that they wouldn't pay Branch and traded him only to sign Stallworth to a deal of similar total value.
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Well, that makes much more sense.
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...in English please?

All I'm pointing out is that it's interesting that they wouldn't pay Branch and traded him only to sign Stallworth to a deal of similar total value.
Works out for us, we get a similar player for less money and a #1 pick...
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Upon seeing the contract terms, that's much more favorable than the initial figures would have you believe, I agree.
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...in English please?

All I'm pointing out is that it's interesting that they wouldn't pay Branch and traded him only to sign Stallworth to a deal of similar total value.
im saying
-the cap increased so everyone is getting paid more. if Branch was in this market..he would be asking for more because he can command more. you really think Clements and others would have gotten that big of a contracts in last year's salary?

-Stallworth has options..this year he will make $3.6 million and then has option for 2 or 4 more years. thats cheaper than Deion.
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Im not a fan of stallworth, but this was a well designed contract. Its full of roster bonueses and option bonuses, and correct me if im wrong, the pats can cut him after 1 year with no cap hit, right?

Stallworth might have his breakout season with brady now.
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david thomas is going to be really solid for you guys, may have led to releasing graham since thomas is a whole lot cheaper...he has excellent hands, he's just small as far as height is concerned...but he has been a top TE all the way since HS, i attended a nike camp with him back before the 01-02 season and he definately showed how much potential he has...i hope he gets a chance to get worked in....



and im just rooting for him to leave philly, id love if he came home to tennessee with vince, that would enable them to not go WR first rd, maybe wait 2nd for a sidney rice if they still felt the need...
I really like Thomas and he made some great catches when given the opporitunity this year. He is a receiving TE though, whereas Graham was a big-time blocker and a good receiver as well. I don't think he pushed Graham out of NE. Thomas played some fullback, slot receiver, and TE and did well. I really like him and he could do some good things. He is actually a pretty good blocker for a 6-3 230 pound TE.

As for the Stallworth signing, I like it. He is the most proven receiver (aside from Troy Brown) on our roster now. He should be the number one guy in '07. If Chad Jackson returns healthy this is how I see the depth chart.
1.Stallworth
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That is a pretty decent WR corps, plus Watson and Thomas as receiving TE's. Gaffney was impressive towards the end of last year and could see more throws his way in '07, and Caldwell was solid until the playoffs.
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im not sold on this but its the pats so it will most liekly work out for them
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I love how Eagles fans were convinced that "there is no chance that Stallworth will leave Philadelphia". It's the NFL. Anything can, and will happen.
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Since when were they not in elite company?
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Welker and Stallworth. They've got some good targets for Brady now.
The Jets still have a better tandem, but I'm still hating the fact that they now have a legit pair of WR.


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1. Laveranues Coles
2. Chris Chambers
3. Donte Stallworth
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