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Old 04-24-2010, 04:41 PM    (permalink
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Raiders deeply interested in Faneca, who refused pay cut from Jets. Need to protect J Campbell.

Raiders like Faneca and since Jets release, focusing on Oakland.

Faneca talking with Oakland about contract

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I think it would be a very good singing good vet who can teach these young cats somethings and will help out who ever is at RT(Barnes,Valdheer,Campbell)

But has he ever played RG?

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I'm pretty sure he's played LG his whole career. I'd like to think that Faneca will be a better option then Carlise.
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Holy **** this might be over the top lol. Have him at RG and our oline is VERY solid
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I just hope we don't throw too much money at him. He's gotta be getting pretty old and it doesn't sound like Jets fans were very pleased with his play. I just get the feeling he's been living off the name he made back in his Steeler days.
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I really don't think it's gonna happen,I would like it to happen to from Cables press conference he want's to see what these young guys can do.so I expect Campbell to be the RG.
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I really don't think it's gonna happen,I would like it to happen to from Cables press conference he want's to see what these young guys can do.so I expect Campbell to be the RG.
Bruce Campbell? I highly doubt that. He's really not built like a guard. I expect him to be our project LT, much like Henderson was when we drafted him. RG should likely be between Carlisle, Walker, or a new acquisition from this point forward.

EDIT: Was just listening to Cable's press conference, he mentioned Campbell at RG lol. I don't see it happening but I guess it is a possibility.

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If you have Campbell not isolated on the outside, I think putting him at RG is a good way of getting him some playing time early. He is certainly strong enough to do it, although I would be concerned about some of the bigger, low CG DT's being able to push him around.
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Id rather try Khalif Barnes at RG or see if Langston Walker can play well like he did play year there. I want to develop Bruce as our LT and let Veldheer take over RT from the get go
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I'd be totally happy with this. I'm not clear we should expect either Veldheer or Campbell to play significant snaps this season, at least early on. Neither is a particularly good fit inside and while I do think the team believes Veldheer is the future left tackle of the team, he'd have to come out and play pretty damn well for a rookie to unseat Henderson that soon.

Recognizing that we don't really have much inside, getting Faneca would be fine so long as either he or Gallery are willing to play the right guard position. We desperately need guys who are used to power blocking schemes and are smart veterans; Faneca fits both those requirements.
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Faneca signed with Arizona today....
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Sigh, right after I bothered to write all that out. Oh well, Oakland can redeem themselves by signing John Henderson.
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I'm pretty sure he's played LG his whole career. I'd like to think that Faneca will be a better option then Carlise.
Heck, if he doesn't want to switch sides then fine. Let's move Gallery to the right side. I don't care. Whatever gets the man in here.

I'd like to see him teach Campbell the finer arts of playing guard in the league (until Campbell hopefully grows into a LT role of course). Faneca has excellent technique from what I've seen so he would do good for Campbell.
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IMO Henderson would be the better sign anyways. I think out of these guys we should be alright at RG: Langston Walker, Bruce Campbell, Cooper Carlisle, Khalif Barnes and Brandon Rodd. Walker played well last year at the end of the season, Cambpbell has potential through the roof, we know what we are going to get with Carlisle, Barnes is a unknown at RG but he didnt look good on the outside last year and Rodd is another unknown young guy who could surprise
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Sigh, right after I bothered to write all that out. Oh well, Oakland can redeem themselves by signing John Henderson.
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Guys, there's no way I could claim to know near as much about the offensive line as Tom Cable, but I really don't see Bruce Campbell as he is right now as a offensive guard. He doesn't anchor all that well, he doesn't get consistent leverage, and he wasn't really all that great at getting a push in the run game. If we were still running the ZBS, that'd be one thing, since he'd probably be pretty damn awesome at pulling, but we're not. The single best thing about this kid is his kick-slide. It's unreal. He's gotta be a tackle.
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Guys, there's no way I could claim to know near as much about the offensive line as Tom Cable, but I really don't see Bruce Campbell as he is right now as a offensive guard. He doesn't anchor all that well, he doesn't get consistent leverage, and he wasn't really all that great at getting a push in the run game. If we were still running the ZBS, that'd be one thing, since he'd probably be pretty damn awesome at pulling, but we're not. The single best thing about this kid is his kick-slide. It's unreal. He's gotta be a tackle.
Are we really running a power, man-up blocking scheme? I haven't actually heard that as a definite answer. I agree that his skillset does NOT match that of a power blocking guard. The skills he needs to develop the most are the ones that are most necessary for a power blocking scheme and the skills he already possesses would be virtually useless in said scheme.

Does he have brute strength? Yes. But without the leverage and ability to anchor in the blocking game, he doesn't make sense inside for a power scheme.
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It was my impression. Bringing in guys like Langton Walker would seem to support that and it was also cited as a possible reason for Cable's exit. Since that didn't happen, who knows. I was getting ahead of myself above. We'll just have to wait and see.
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