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I'd actually take Jerry Manuel over him which is saying quite a bit.
I would take anyone over Baker. I hope to god we have a bad season just so they will let him go.
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Ubaldo's scoreless streak just ended at 26 consecutive innings.

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I'd take Dusty over Manuel, but that's because I don't like making potential stud pitchers into Octavio Dotel.
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With Miguel Montero on the DL I have Ivan Rodriguez starting at catcher, should I drop him for Wilson Ramos?
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I'd just roll with Pudge for a while.

And with Wood/Prior's pitching motions, they were going to be ****** eventually. Dusty just sped up the process for them.
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I'd just roll with Pudge for a while.

And with Wood/Prior's pitching motions, they were going to be ****** eventually. Dusty just sped up the process for them.
I have heard this argument about Prior, but never about Wood.
This is still one of my happiest moments as a Cubs fan.

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Brodeur what the hell are you talking about. Everyone and everything I ever saw about Prior said he had perfect mechanics. Where did you come up with that that?
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Fenikz go with Ramos. He's a very good hitter and he'd bet starting but he's been held back because of Mauer.
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Brodeur what the hell are you talking about. Everyone and everything I ever saw about Prior said he had perfect mechanics. Where did you come up with that that?
Prior had the inverted w, so that's not entirely true.
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Prior had the inverted w, so that's not entirely true.
Coming out of college and in the minors can you show me anywhere that said his mechanics would be a problem?
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I have heard this argument about Prior, but never about Wood.
This is still one of my happiest moments as a Cubs fan.

Wood has the Inverted L, Prior has the Inverted W.
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Brodeur what the hell are you talking about. Everyone and everything I ever saw about Prior said he had perfect mechanics. Where did you come up with that that?
http://www.chrisoleary.com/projects/...Mechanics.html
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2007 was after the fact.
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This was the best article I found on Prior. It makes sense from what I remember and then what happened. Actually a great article.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-prior031109
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And I'm with you GF. I clearly remember everyone touting Prior's mechanics as being rock solid. It's why I was pretty shocked when he had continuous arm issues. It's also why I no longer put any stock in what people believe to be "sound mechanics."
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Thanks Borat. I 100% think his problems were from workload more than mechanics.
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Yeah, forget the inverted W, Prior had the inverted Dusty. Death sentence.

Hey, isn't an inverted W just a regular M?
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Which is why I worry about Ubaldo, although it's not a true inverted L, it's still a herky jerky unnecessary strain on the forearm/elbow when he cocks the pitch behind him to try and hide it more.
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Yeah, forget the inverted W, Prior had the inverted Dusty. Death sentence.

Hey, isn't an inverted W just a regular M?
how did you make the upside down W?
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And I'm with you GF. I clearly remember everyone touting Prior's mechanics as being rock solid. It's why I was pretty shocked when he had continuous arm issues. It's also why I no longer put any stock in what people believe to be "sound mechanics."
When Prior came into the league everyone started to copy those mechanics, House always called them the "Equal opposites" many people who have studied mechanics have came to the conclusion that they may have lead to his injuries, like previous posters said.

Thing that is interesting to me is if you look at pictures of Strasburg and Prior they look very very similar.
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