Rank the NFC North and their likely records - Page 4

P-L · 03-12-2007, 12:25 PM

I see a lot of people predicting the same order as last year, which is typical. However, it's not going to happen. It's very rare that the four teams in the division finish in the same order two years in a row.

bearsfan_51 · 03-12-2007, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Patriots-Lions

I see a lot of people predicting the same order as last year, which is typical. However, it's not going to happen. It's very rare that the four teams in the division finish in the same order two years in a row.

The only difference from this year and last was Green Bay.

Chicago is entrenched at the top. Beyond that you could make some arguments.

03-12-2007, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

The only difference from this year and last was Green Bay.

Chicago is entrenched at the top. Beyond that you could make some arguments.

Barring injuries, anyways.

bearsfan_51 · 03-12-2007, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by frogstomp

Barring injuries, anyways.

Of course. Nobody is going to predict injuries.

03-12-2007, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

Of course. Nobody is going to predict injuries.

After the last two years, Green Bay probably should... same with the Giants.

Vikes99ej · 03-12-2007, 12:47 PM

I hate this. The Lions, Packers, and Bears fans can all get optimistic, but everyone would shoot down any Vikings fan that gets excited. This disgusts me.

the_legend_killer · 03-12-2007, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Vikes99ej

I hate this. The Lions, Packers, and Bears fans can all get optimistic, but everyone would shoot down any Vikings fan that gets excited. This disgusts me.

WE'VE GOT TEH BRETT FARVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND DORSE THE HORSE!!!

bearsfan_51 · 03-12-2007, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Vikes99ej

I hate this. The Lions, Packers, and Bears fans can all get optimistic, but everyone would shoot down any Vikings fan that gets excited. This disgusts me.

Anyone can be optomistic. What's your reasoning though? I've asked the same thing to Lions fans (the very few that are optomistic) and can't say I buy that reasoning.

In fact, I think toonster just made the best pro-Lions argument I've ever heard. 7-8 wins doesn't seem quite as insane as it once did.

Ewing · 03-12-2007, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Vikes99ej

If we don't get Brady Quinn this year. I'll bet everything we have that we win more than 2 ******* games next year.

Who's your offense? Jackson, Taylor, McMullen, and that bust Williamson? The chance of them winning anymore than four is slim with that group.

NFLBOY · 03-12-2007, 04:07 PM

Without seeing the schedules of the teams, I would predict something on this order:
1 Bears at 11-5
2 Packers 10-6
3 vikings 9-7
4 lions 2-14 Just don't see any hope in this franchise at all.

Xiomera · 03-12-2007, 04:08 PM

1. Chicago (11-5)
2. Green Bay (10-6)
3. Detroit (6-10)
4. Minnesota (6-10)

Vikes99ej · 03-12-2007, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

Anyone can be optomistic. What's your reasoning though? I've asked the same thing to Lions fans (the very few that are optomistic) and can't say I buy that reasoning.

In fact, I think toonster just made the best pro-Lions argument I've ever heard. 7-8 wins doesn't seem quite as insane as it once did.

I'm just saying if I tried to be hopeful about the Vikings and post a record around .500, people would kill me. I'm pretty sure there's no way the Bears, Lions, and Packers will all be over .500. I won't say we'lll be .500 or over, just because I'm pessimestic and semi-realistic, but if I were to, I'd just point to some of the losses last year we gave up in the last minutes. But I'm sure the other people would just say "Look at all the wins you got lucky with". I don't know why I see these people saying that we're going to go 2-14 or 3-13. We didn't lose that much this offseason. There's no reason we can't be 5-11 or 6-10 at least.

TacticaLion · 03-12-2007, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Patriots-Lions

I see a lot of people predicting the same order as last year, which is typical. However, it's not going to happen. It's very rare that the four teams in the division finish in the same order two years in a row.

QFT.

Most people take the prior season and expect the teams to play the same. It just wont happen. The Bears could struggle, the Vikings could explode, and the Lions could finish 8-8. ANYTHING can happen each year.

Which is why this thread is pointless.

Vikes99ej · 03-12-2007, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TacticaLion

QFT.

Most people take the prior season and expect the teams to play the same. It just wont happen. The Bears could struggle, the Vikings could explode, and the Lions could finish 8-8. ANYTHING can happen each year.

Which is why this thread is pointless.

Thank you. No one could have predicted that the Saints and Redskins would have the season that they did. Everyone also thought last year would be the Cardinals "breakout year".

Crazy_Chris · 03-12-2007, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by toonsterwu

I think the Vikings 06 draft is an incomplete. At the end of the day, Chad Greenway was going to make or break that draft because he was drafted with the aim of being the centerpiece of that defensive scheme at the weakside spot. The rest of the class was okay. Griffin showed enough promise, and should fit fine within the scheme. Ray Edwards was a nice gamble who always had athletic ability but the off-field issues probably hurt him some last year.

I think thats right i think If greenway comes in and plays well there is no doubt we had a good draft, but i also believe it depnds on T-Jack if he stinks it up the draft will be written off as horrid(unjustly) but everyone else seems to focus in on the pick of Jackson. For that reason he will make or break our draft far more than Greenway.

Crazy_Chris · 03-12-2007, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Vikes99ej

I'm just saying if I tried to be hopeful about the Vikings and post a record around .500, people would kill me. I'm pretty sure there's no way the Bears, Lions, and Packers will all be over .500. I won't say we'lll be .500 or over, just because I'm pessimestic and semi-realistic, but if I were to, I'd just point to some of the losses last year we gave up in the last minutes. But I'm sure the other people would just say "Look at all the wins you got lucky with". I don't know why I see these people saying that we're going to go 2-14 or 3-13. We didn't lose that much this offseason. There's no reason we can't be 5-11 or 6-10 at least.

yea i dont get all the 2-14, 3-13's and so on this team is not that bad. With any semi-decent offense we would have been a 12 win team this year, a lot of the reasons we didnt have a good offense are due to 1.offensive penaties i dont know just who all to put the blame on for this but penalties are always drive killers 2. Bad Play calling, there is a reason andy reid didnt let childress call plays in philly and ill just leave it at that 3. Recievers, the reason they are three is that they may not have been as bad as it seems, due to the first two things on the list, when put in bad situations by offensive line geting penalized that makes it all the more important to call the right play to get the yards needed, the recievers have to still make the play but its a team game and when you have a mediocre corp. of recievers they have to be put in a good situation to be any good. and also i know there was a few times one of the recievers make a great play but than its called back by penalty like in the game aginst the packers at Lambeau travis taylor made a great catch that could of broke it wide open but it was called back from a penalty... But what i can say with one Realiable wide reciever on last years team thats at least 3 more wins right there

johbur · 03-14-2007, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Ewing

Who's your offense? Jackson, Taylor, McMullen, and that bust Williamson? The chance of them winning anymore than four is slim with that group.

No, they brought in Bobby Wade for something around $15 million and he'll likely be starting for them.

T-Jack<<<VY

Bearsfan123 · 03-14-2007, 08:54 AM

The fact is you reached for Jackson and now he *should* struggle mightily. Not only due to inexperience but lack of reliable options. Honestly the only thing he has going for him is his running attack and o-line. Now a couple years down the road could this team be good? Yes, but as of right now unless Jackson and your receivers are in perfect sync and he is far more advanced then I see him being, your team will struggle. On the positive, this year you should see your D growing by leaps and bounds with Greenway back.