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Macarthur · 03-13-2007, 03:20 PM

I've liked Merriweather for some time. I think the only reason he will not be taken ahead of Nelson is his off the field issues/character concerns.

dc4life · 03-13-2007, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Macarthur

I've liked Merriweather for some time. I think the only reason he will not be taken ahead of Nelson is his off the field issues/character concerns.

That bothers me a little bit. I hope he doesnt turn into another Derek Ross(good talent/headcase) if we do get him.

leroyisgod · 03-13-2007, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TNewFan41

We need a #2 CB, not a #1!!!! And Henry still has atleast 3-5 years left, so we don't really need one, and Henry is staying at CB, not moving to FS, sorry if any of you think he is switching, because he isn't.

That is why we should take Jonathan Wade in R4, or someone else in that range. We can get a good #2 there, waisting a first round pick is STUPID!!!!!!

Oh and thanks for agreeing with me Paul. I think this post should clearify why we don't need a CB in round 1. If we pick a CB before Rd 3 I will be very dissapointed.

Well I guess Henry is staying CB since you said so.

JJJ888 · 03-13-2007, 04:53 PM

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February 27, 2007
Aaron Glenn return to Texans?

I ran into Aaron Glenn today and was talking about his future. You'll recall he was with the Texans for the first three years of the franchise but then left to play in Dallas with Bill Parcells and the Cowboys. I told him he was going to love playing for new head coach Wade Phillips and I was surprised when he said his options were open right now and Houston could be his final stop. Teams and players can't talk to each other before March 2nd about free agents, (and he's not one) but something possibly could be worked out after the Texans explore all of their options.

He didn't really want to go north in the first place but things just didn't work out here although he does enjoy playing for the Cowboys. He has close ties with the current coaching staff starting at the top. Being an Aggie, he has cossed paths with head coach Gary Kubiak and offensive coordinator Mike Sherman. When Kubiak was named the new leader, that piqued Glenn's interest.

We don't know right now what will happen, but Aaron is a tough competitor who is also a great leader and can be used in many different areas. When he was here, he was like a coach on the field. He loved helping a young Dunta Robinson understand the pro game so there is some upside to consider in that area plus he still has his skills although not as sharp as they used to be.

The Texans need players and they need leaders who know how to win. He could fit in nicely by spending his final years in the NFL right here in Houston. We'll keep you posted. What do you think? Should the Texans consider bringing him back?

Posted by Giff Nielsen at February 27, 2007 03:57 PM
http://www.beloblog.com/sports/2007/...to_texans.html

It's probably not really serious, but its still something to consider.

Kinda old, but if it happened, I'd like it...gives us room for a young CB to be drafted, and also gives us some compensation. But we do lose a valuable player with lots of experience and leadership.

mtmock · 03-13-2007, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TNewFan41

We need a #2 CB, not a #1!!!! And Henry still has atleast 3-5 years left, so we don't really need one, and Henry is staying at CB, not moving to FS, sorry if any of you think he is switching, because he isn't.

That is why we should take Jonathan Wade in R4, or someone else in that range. We can get a good #2 there, waisting a first round pick is STUPID!!!!!!

Oh and thanks for agreeing with me Paul. I think this post should clearify why we don't need a CB in round 1. If we pick a CB before Rd 3 I will be very dissapointed.

3-5 yrs is a stretch 5 years still left in his prime? that far fetched. maybe a decent player but not to the level was at last year...youre acting like a little baby saying oh CB would be STUPid! how old are you 5 grow up its a serious possibility...jerry doesnt take direct calls from you on what to do...it wouldnt be wasting a pick when a player could contribute next year or in the future...was carp a wasted pick huh he rarely played...you draft for the future not for the next season unless you have a top 5 pick...even if we get nelson he wont be a dominant db yr 1 good but not great...
and im not saying move henry to FS im saying if that is the best option it will be done if leon hall or revis or houston is there and no other fs chances are we take one of them... im trying not to get too mad at you i read lsu's sig and i try not to get into confrontations with "special" people

TNewFan41 · 03-13-2007, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by leroyisgod

Well I guess Henry is staying CB since you said so.

Ummm, Jerry said so. Plus it would be a stupid move anyway.

TNewFan41 · 03-13-2007, 07:13 PM

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3-5 yrs is a stretch 5 years still left in his prime? that far fetched. maybe a decent player but not to the level was at last year...youre acting like a little baby saying oh CB would be STUPid! how old are you 5 grow up its a serious possibility...jerry doesnt take direct calls from you on what to do...it wouldnt be wasting a pick when a player could contribute next year or in the future...was carp a wasted pick huh he rarely played...you draft for the future not for the next season unless you have a top 5 pick...even if we get nelson he wont be a dominant db yr 1 good but not great...
and im not saying move henry to FS im saying if that is the best option it will be done if leon hall or revis or houston is there and no other fs chances are we take one of them... im trying not to get too mad at you i read lsu's sig and i try not to get into confrontations with "special" people

I didn't mean prime, but I mean 5 solid years, he probably has 3 years left in his prime. As long as he can stay healthy, he is a LUXURY at #2 CB. When he is healthy, some teams would probably want him as there #1.

mtmock · 03-13-2007, 07:17 PM

Henry is above avg at #2...agreed

TNewFan41 · 03-13-2007, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mtmock

Henry is above avg at #2...agreed

When healthy I would say a GREAT #2 CB, but thanks for agreeing.

leroyisgod · 03-14-2007, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TNewFan41

Ummm, Jerry said so. Plus it would be a stupid move anyway.

And Jerry always sticks to what he says?

leroyisgod · 03-14-2007, 08:02 AM

Henry when healthy is a very solid CB in the league. Unfortunately for him he gets thrown at all day long because Newman occupies the other side of the field. I personally feel that he could give us 1-2 more solid years of play. I wouldn't rule out drafting a day one CB to compete at CB. Let's face it, if Glenn comes back we've got one more year out of him and will need another Nickel sooner than later.

TNewFan41 · 03-14-2007, 08:14 AM

YOu can fine a Nickel CB anywhere, but I get what your saying. Jonathan Wade!!

leroyisgod · 03-14-2007, 08:23 AM

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YOu can fine a Nickel CB anywhere, but I get what your saying. Jonathan Wade!!

The problem is that there's a pretty solid CB class, but by the time we try to grab one in the 2nd or 3rd round I think the pickings will be slim.

I just hate this, there's so many directions we could go in the first two rounds this year. FS, CB, WR, OLB, NT, DE. Some will disagree with me on this, but I personally don't feel that there is one position that is a dire need at this point. Even though I'm starting to lean towards FS more and more.

There's so many things that could happen in the meantime. We could trade JJ and that would mean we'd have to address RB in the draft. Glenn could retire and that would force us to draft a CB on day one(even though i think we should anyway). We intend to release TO before June 1 and would need an immediate replacement.

If we trade away JJ, I'd ideally like to trade him to Buffalo or Green Bay. This would be in hopes we could trade up somehow to get into one of their spots and grab Lynch.

Is it April 28th yet?

Macarthur · 03-14-2007, 10:46 AM

I wouldn't have a problem with CB, at all. If that's where the value is at, plus it's a premiere position in this league.

It appears this is a pretty deep year in the draft for CB & WR. Those are positions that are important and even though we may not have an immediate need, we will have a need in a year or two.

shane_man · 03-14-2007, 12:39 PM

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sco...cobyjones.html

What do we think of possibly drafting this bloke latish(around 5th or 6th round)

TNewFan41 · 03-14-2007, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by leroyisgod

The problem is that there's a pretty solid CB class, but by the time we try to grab one in the 2nd or 3rd round I think the pickings will be slim.

I just hate this, there's so many directions we could go in the first two rounds this year. FS, CB, WR, OLB, NT, DE. Some will disagree with me on this, but I personally don't feel that there is one position that is a dire need at this point. Even though I'm starting to lean towards FS more and more.

There's so many things that could happen in the meantime. We could trade JJ and that would mean we'd have to address RB in the draft. Glenn could retire and that would force us to draft a CB on day one(even though i think we should anyway). We intend to release TO before June 1 and would need an immediate replacement.

If we trade away JJ, I'd ideally like to trade him to Buffalo or Green Bay. This would be in hopes we could trade up somehow to get into one of their spots and grab Lynch.

Is it April 28th yet?

Why would we trade a RB to draft a RB?!?!?!? That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. If we do trade Julius, it means we have confidence in Barber and Thompson, and we won't pick a RB until the 2nd day, if at all. The pick will be used on something else, not a RB. That is just stupid.

Burns336 · 03-14-2007, 03:33 PM

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Why would we trade a RB to draft a RB?!?!?!? That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. If we do trade Julius, it means we have confidence in Barber and Thompson, and we won't pick a RB until the 2nd day, if at all. The pick will be used on something else, not a RB. That is just stupid.

So upgrading the RB position through the draft is a far fetched idea huh? how 'bout ramonce taylor as a future pro bowler? or how 'bout the fact that you always say this team has no holes? Or wait, i think the best one yet has to be you talking about us having the best secondary in the league next year. Maybe your assumption that with leonard davis we now have a top 5 O-line. You are a DUMB A S S, a complete moron, simply an idiot. go away. leave the boards on your own. PLEASE...

mtmock · 03-14-2007, 04:52 PM

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So upgrading the RB position through the draft is a far fetched idea huh? how 'bout ramonce taylor as a future pro bowler? or how 'bout the fact that you always say this team has no holes? Or wait, i think the best one yet has to be you talking about us having the best secondary in the league next year. Maybe your assumption that with leonard davis we now have a top 5 O-line. You are a DUMB A S S, a complete moron, simply an idiot. go away. leave the boards on your own. PLEASE...

i agree...if we trade him we would still probably draft another rb...depth is never a bad thing...heck even if we dont i could still see us goin rb day 2

TNewFan41 · 03-14-2007, 05:09 PM

But why would you just trade a RB for a pick, and then pick a RB with that pick? That is so stupid. If anything you lose because the drafted player has no NFL experience. So if we do trade Julius, the logic should suggest that Marion is our guy, and we use the pick we got for julius on someone other than a RB.

mtmock · 03-14-2007, 05:12 PM

listen nobody said it would be with that pick it doesnt matter where but we probly will take an rb somewhere...i wouldnt mind gettin peterson at 12 if we trade w/ the bills... were just saying chances are we take 1

leroyisgod · 03-14-2007, 05:13 PM

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But why would you just trade a RB for a pick, and then pick a RB with that pick? That is so stupid. If anything you lose because the drafted player has no NFL experience. So if we do trade Julius, the logic should suggest that Marion is our guy, and we use the pick we got for julius on someone other than a RB.

You trade away JJ because you don't have faith in him and feel like you're upgrading through the draft.

How is this the dumbest thing you've ever heard of? Marion plain and simple is not our guy. He's a nice change of pace back, but will never be a feature back in the NFL.

mtmock · 03-14-2007, 05:15 PM

just put tnewfan in your ignore list i did its simple and now i dont have to read what he says it automatically blocks it :)

shane_man · 03-14-2007, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by leroyisgod

You trade away JJ because you don't have faith in him and feel like you're upgrading through the draft.

How is this the dumbest thing you've ever heard of? Marion plain and simple is not our guy. He's a nice change of pace back, but will never be a feature back in the NFL.

Which begs the question... Why would we even consider trading away Julius if we didnt feel Marion was going to step in. Unless we get the type of value from Julius where someones willing to trade enough ingredients to get an Adrian Peterson... Right now we have a 1000 yard rusher and a guy who punched it in for 16 scores last season... Why trade a working combo unless what your trading for offers more value.

We shouldnt even consider trading Jones for anything less then a first rounder unless we flat out are not going to resign him next year(from a personal standpoint thats a mistake)