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Old 07-09-2010, 10:02 PM    (permalink
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Its why i'll always believe LDR are the toughest athletes and is the hardest sport out there.
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Sports that are harder than long-distance training.

Hockey, football, basketball, baseball, sprinting, golfing, tennis, badminton, swimming, and probably a few others that I'm forgetting. You run. Whoop de ******* do. Every sport involves some type of running.
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HOCKEY???

They are always going full speed and play in pain and busted jaws.
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Sports that are harder than long-distance training.

Hockey, football, basketball, baseball, sprinting, golfing, tennis, badminton, swimming, and probably a few others that I'm forgetting. You run. Whoop de ******* do. Every sport involves some type of running.
Exactly this is coming from a guy who probably cant run around his block without having to walk. Tell me what do athletes usually dread most? It is running. In soccer everyone bitched an moaned to find a way out of the warm up laps before practice. Athletes hate running sprints. You know why? Cause running is ******* hard and it hurts. There is nothing forgiving about it. Lance Armstrong is even proof he said marathoning is harder than anything he has ever done.
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Exactly this is coming from a guy who probably cant run around his block without having to walk. Tell me what do athletes usually dread most? It is running. In soccer everyone bitched an moaned to find a way out of the warm up laps before practice. Athletes hate running sprints. You know why? Cause running is ******* hard and it hurts. There is nothing forgiving about it. Lance Armstrong is even proof he said marathoning is harder than anything he has ever done.
People hate it because it's ******* boring.
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HOCKEY???

They are always going full speed and play in pain and busted jaws.
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People hate it because it's ******* boring.
Seriously I hate running even for workouts...but when playing football I Fuking LOVE IT. I love running with the ball in my hand or running after someone to tackle them ...or at them.
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Seriously I hate running even for workouts...but when playing football I Fuking LOVE IT. I love running with the ball in my hand or running after someone to tackle them ...or at them.
Well, that's different running. Running for miles and miles is ******* boring.
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Boxing or MMA is harder than anything else you can do. You have to run LSD, you have to sprint with variety, you have to train 2 times a day, and most importantly you have to ******* fight.
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HOCKEY???

They are always going full speed and play in pain and busted jaws.
Are these guys out there every day? No they pretty much spend 3 months in the off season partying and getting far away from hockey. Most high level distance runners maybe have a month off the entire year. There is a lot more to it than just game day.

The top level guys run 7 days a week around 120-140 miles. Sometimes running twice a day everyday except for christmas. There are no breaks during training. Running takes every ounce of strength an testicular fortitude you have. Look at people after faces after a race the pure exhaustion whens the last time you saw that from a football player or a hockey player? Running on a treadmill is boring. I guarantee if you go out and run you will get tired an go home with your tail between your legs before you get bored. It hurts an you can handle the pain i get it you are wimpy. In no other sport can you push your body to the absolute limit. An all these guys do it for what? Kenyans do it so they have a future. In america? The glory is mostly internal. THey don't get paid a lot or live some glamorous life
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Are these guys out there every day? No they pretty much spend 3 months in the off season partying and getting far away from hockey. Most high level distance runners maybe have a month off the entire year. There is a lot more to it than just game day.

The top level guys run 7 days a week around 120-140 miles. Sometimes running twice a day everyday except for christmas. There are no breaks during training. Running takes every ounce of strength an testicular fortitude you have. Look at people after faces after a race the pure exhaustion whens the last time you saw that from a football player or a hockey player? Running on a treadmill is boring. I guarantee if you go out and run you will get tired an go home with your tail between your legs before you get bored. It hurts an you can handle the pain i get it you are wimpy. In no other sport can you push your body to the absolute limit. An all these guys do it for what? Kenyans do it so they have a future. In america? The glory is mostly internal. THey don't get paid a lot or live some glamorous life
Clearly you know nothing about hockey. They spent also maybe a month away from the rink or working out in the year, if they're lucky.

Lacrosse is about three times as hard as LDR. Box or field.
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LDR is just work and training. It is not a "tough" sport in that it tests anything but fitness, both mental and physical.

It certainly isn't the hardest sport, anyone can do LDR, literally anyone that has the physical ability to run, some will be far better but if you can run you can do it. Other sports require skills and a willingness to get smashed.

I would say the hardest sports out there from the toll they will take on you would be the following.

I think the thing worth noting with my entire list is that LDR is a part of the training as in you take the LDR and then build on it. It's hard to say it's the toughest when other sports are using it as a part of training because it is a "better" way of simulating more dangerous conditions.

The toughest sports I can think of would be the following...

1. Boxing/MMA - Need the fitness of a LDR, the strength of a footballer and the willingness to get hit in the face. Basically the ultimate gut check of a sport(s).

2. Aussie Rules Football - Again.. you need the fitness of a LDR and then you have to have the skills, the mental strength and the toughness to get hit. I rack up a good 15-20km on average in a game. I can tell you now that a 20km run is FAR easier than a game of aussie rules. Aussie rules is the toughest sport from a testing your body point of view that I've done, it's basically contact LDR with skill...

3. Rugby - This sport falls halfway between Aussie Rules and American Football. You get hit harder in Rugby than in Aussie Rules but not nearly as hard as in American football. You need to be a fair bit fitter though because there is no resting compared to American Football. Again, you need to be able to run all day.

4. American Football - A totally different kind of fitness and toughness is needed. You get hit harder than any sport I've played and you get hit every play. Aerobically it is not a challenge at all but it is incredibly physically demanding.

Other sports like basketball, soccer, hockey(field) and cricket which I have done are not on the same level. The key element is the physical impact, it takes way more out of you than running.

The toughest training drill I've ever done is in Aussie Rules, it is a one on one contest for a ball, repeated for about a minute. If you do that a couple of times you will be far more tired than if you ran 3km.

Not saying running is not tough, it takes great mental concentration to keep doing something that quite simply is "boring" and does start to hurt, but there is a massive reason that all these other sports play one game a week and have days of training and runners can compete all year and train 7 days a week, it just isn't nearly as demanding on the body.
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Wrestling is probably the most physically demanding sport. At least in MMA you can pull guard and try to survive.
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Wrestling is probably the most physically demanding sport. At least in MMA you can pull guard and try to survive.
pull guard while a dude is socking you in the ribs and temple?
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pull guard while a dude is socking you in the ribs and temple?
Honestly if i was dead tired i would. Just need to try to keep him close to you so that it prevents him from getting leverage on his punches. Some people enjoy getting hit.

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LDR is just work and training. It is not a "tough" sport in that it tests anything but fitness, both mental and physical.

It certainly isn't the hardest sport, anyone can do LDR, literally anyone that has the physical ability to run, some will be far better but if you can run you can do it. Other sports require skills and a willingness to get smashed.

I would say the hardest sports out there from the toll they will take on you would be the following.

I think the thing worth noting with my entire list is that LDR is a part of the training as in you take the LDR and then build on it. It's hard to say it's the toughest when other sports are using it as a part of training because it is a "better" way of simulating more dangerous conditions.

The toughest sports I can think of would be the following...

1. Boxing/MMA - Need the fitness of a LDR, the strength of a footballer and the willingness to get hit in the face. Basically the ultimate gut check of a sport(s).

2. Aussie Rules Football - Again.. you need the fitness of a LDR and then you have to have the skills, the mental strength and the toughness to get hit. I rack up a good 15-20km on average in a game. I can tell you now that a 20km run is FAR easier than a game of aussie rules. Aussie rules is the toughest sport from a testing your body point of view that I've done, it's basically contact LDR with skill...

3. Rugby - This sport falls halfway between Aussie Rules and American Football. You get hit harder in Rugby than in Aussie Rules but not nearly as hard as in American football. You need to be a fair bit fitter though because there is no resting compared to American Football. Again, you need to be able to run all day.

4. American Football - A totally different kind of fitness and toughness is needed. You get hit harder than any sport I've played and you get hit every play. Aerobically it is not a challenge at all but it is incredibly physically demanding.

Other sports like basketball, soccer, hockey(field) and cricket which I have done are not on the same level. The key element is the physical impact, it takes way more out of you than running.

The toughest training drill I've ever done is in Aussie Rules, it is a one on one contest for a ball, repeated for about a minute. If you do that a couple of times you will be far more tired than if you ran 3km.

Not saying running is not tough, it takes great mental concentration to keep doing something that quite simply is "boring" and does start to hurt, but there is a massive reason that all these other sports play one game a week and have days of training and runners can compete all year and train 7 days a week, it just isn't nearly as demanding on the body.
You are drowning in a pool of your own ignorance. Professional marathoners do maybe one marathon a month. Pro distance runners race 1-2 times a month during the summer they do not have a loaded schedule. Sprinters can recover quicker but they still do not race as much as you would want to believe. There is a difference between jogging, which is what most of your above athletes do and actually running. They are as different as golf and frolf. Running 120 miles in a week is incredibly demanding. Do the math 120 miles averages out to 17 miles per day. Run at say an average of 6 minute pace that putting your body out there every morning for 1:42 minutes. Never the less they dont do that it is mixed up daily. Long distance running is not going out there and ***** footing around. Look at a persons face after a marathon it is pure agony. If running is such a big part of these guys training id like to see them get out there to run a marathon an see if they really have the conditioning for it
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Honestly if i was dead tired i would. Just need to try to keep him close to you so that it prevents him from getting leverage on his punches. Some people enjoy getting hit.

"Fatigue makes cowards of us all."
In wrestling your not getting punched or elbowed tho. Plus, wrestling will end with a pin. The guy will be gunning to knock you out in MMA.

Whatever, tho. This is a relatively pointless debate.
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Are these guys out there every day? No they pretty much spend 3 months in the off season partying and getting far away from hockey. Most high level distance runners maybe have a month off the entire year. There is a lot more to it than just game day.
That may have been a North American hockey player's life back around 50 years ago. Play hard for a few months, then kick back and drink beers during the offseason, and use training camp to get in shape.

Once European players began to get into the NHL, that changed drastically. The Europeans would work hard during the offseason to improve, and pushed the North Americans to do the same.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if all the professional athletes were working out full time, all year (barring up to a month off after the season ended). It takes time to get to peak performance and maintaining that level is a lot easier.

Btw, at field hockey not being tough...Try blocking a hard shot with that ball from a few feet out, and outfielders don't wear pads at all. I've lost count of how many times I've had to ice my knees after getting them whacked.
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out of HS sports its wrestling and swimming.


MMA/Boxer is harder then both.

Also water polo isnt gettin enough props. treading water non stop, in many other sports you can slack a little, in water polo if you slack you drown.
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You guys who think long distance running is easy are out of your mind, its very tough. Every sport can be tough to do.
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