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Old 07-12-2010, 03:37 PM    (permalink
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trading up for santonio holmes in the first





trading away santonio holmes for a 5th



lol, first one was a joke...the troy trade was better but the second one is just awful
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For the Pats

Good:
-Getting Belichick for a first rounder
-Getting Welker for a second
-Getting Moss for a 4th
-Getting the 34th pick for Matt Cassel
-Getting a 1st for Deion Branch (pick used on Meriweather)
-Corey Dillon for a second rounder

Bad:
-Trading up to the top part of round 2 for Chad Jackson
-Giving up a third rounder for Duane Starks

There are more I am forgetting
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I haven't followed the Giants offseasons much until 2000, so I'll just do the past 10 years.

Best:
-The Eli Manning trade. Worth every penny.

-I'll throw in the Shockey for a 2nd and 5th trade as well. We got away like bandits on that one.

Worst:
-Trading two 2nd rounders for Sinorice Moss
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The fact that people bring him up as a HoF coach is disgusting to me.

I completely understand why John Madden is in the Hall of Fame since he is one of the games great ambassadors. However, his credentials as a coach opened the door for a lot of other guys to be in HoF discussions as well, so long as they have a pretty good winning record and one Superbowl win.

Guys like Dungy and Cowher being argued as Hall of Famers makes me want to punch babies.
John Madden has the second highest winning percentage in league history
He never had a losing season
He was the youngest coach to reach 100 wins at 42 and he did it in only 10 seasons as coach
And he had a winning record against all of the Hall of Fame coaches he went up against

Now, you can certainly hold it against him that his Raiders lost 5 AFC Title games in 7 years, but he was definitely better than Dungy and Cowher
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Vikings

Best
Jared Allen to Cheifs for 1st and 3rd round picks

Worst
Randy Moss to Raiders for Troy Williamson and Napolean Harris.
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Joey Galloway trade cost alot more, and hurt alot more, but at least he tore his ACL which screwed up his performance with us.



This picture though, started to get really really old :(







That being said, it's even crazier to read about the Herschel Walker trade. Who trades 1st and 2nd rd picks in 3 years in a row, PLUS established players, for one player? I mean even if you did that for Peyton Manning right now, unless you had alot of players locked up stuff like that can cripple your franchise no matter who you get.
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Joey Galloway trade cost alot more, and hurt alot more, but at least he tore his ACL which screwed up his performance with us.



This picture though, started to get really really old :(







That being said, it's even crazier to read about the Herschel Walker trade. Who trades 1st and 2nd rd picks in 3 years in a row, PLUS established players, for one player? I mean even if you did that for Peyton Manning right now, unless you had alot of players locked up stuff like that can cripple your franchise no matter who you get.
Well in football, no one player can make a team, like Lebron James can in the NBA. Thank goodness. Even Peyton Manning couldn't achieve the stardom that James has, because he can't do it by himself...even if it was Manning in his prime. I think the Walker trade has all taught us that you really do need a complete team to go far season in and season out.
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Well in football, no one player can make a team, like Lebron James can in the NBA. Thank goodness. Even Peyton Manning couldn't achieve the stardom that James has, because he can't do it by himself...even if it was Manning in his prime. I think the Walker trade has all taught us that you really do need a complete team to go far season in and season out.

Exactly, because it might be crazy to some, but if the cost to get Peyton was a 1st and a 2nd for 3 years straight I'd say hell no. I can't believe they were that in love that they really wanted to give up picks 3 years in advance, I didn't even know you were able to do stuff like that.
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I always knew that the Walker trade was horrible for the Vikings and great for the Cowboys but damn, I didnt know how horrible and how great until reading the post that details the trade. Forget all the other players involved and you basically have three 1st and 2nd rounders plus two 3rd rounders for Walker. Ouch. Thats ******* insane. I wouldnt give up two 1st rounders for Manning let alone all that.

As a 49ers fan, two first rounders for Stokes??? WOW!!! That was easily tied for worst trade and im sorry but Stokes sucked. Owens to Philly for Whiting and a 2005 draft pick (cant remember what round) was pretty much the end of the start of the rebuilding process that we'll hopefully get out of this season.

And shouldnt the best trade be trading up for Jerry Rice?
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And shouldnt the best trade be trading up for Jerry Rice?
Yes. Probably the best trade ever.
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For Dallas, the 16 total players + draft picks over 2 yrs. for 1 player, Herschel Walker, from the Vikings.

It took the Cowboys from 1-15 to 3 SB rings in 4 yrs. And it drove a stake into the Vikings' heart, only the death of Corey Stringer in training camp & its subsequent lawsuits was worse than the Walker trade in Vikes history.

Worst trade in Dallas history was the Jerry Jones bromance with Joey Galloway who had 2 bad knees, they gave up 2 no. 1s for him & it hurt .... a lot. The silver lining was that Jerry didnt make any more stupid costly trades, they continued the Dallas tradition of more draft day trades than any other team but at the end of the day most of them in the last decade or so have worked out the Cowboys' way.

When the 9ers traded up for Jerry Rice, Bill Walsh was rolling the dice on an unknown player & it paid off bigtime. Luck is always a big factor in draft trades after all.

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For Houston it was probably trading our 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th round pick for Jason Babin.
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