Draft Countdown Forums

Go Back   Draft Countdown Forums > Draft Countdown Forums > Pro Football

Pro Football Discuss professional football.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-17-2007, 05:11 PM    (permalink
Caddy
Team Leader
Legend
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Aussie-Land
Posts: 20,865
Reputation: 2260941
Caddy is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Caddy is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Caddy is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Caddy is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Caddy is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Caddy is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Caddy is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Caddy is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Caddy is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Caddy is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Caddy is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbluedefense View Post
For 85% of the year, the Colts defense was embarrassing to say the least. And Chicago's defense wasn't exactly dominant in the 2nd half of the season, or the playoffs either.
Both Superbowl teams ran the Cover 2 system so to say it is "suckdom " is a vast overstatement on your part.
__________________

Caddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2007, 05:22 PM    (permalink
bigbluedefense
Team Leader
Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Jersey
Posts: 28,630
Reputation: 3904676
bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 24cadillac24 View Post
Both Superbowl teams ran the Cover 2 system so to say it is "suckdom " is a vast overstatement on your part.
I can agree with that. Ive made it known that Im not a fan of the Cover 2/Tampa 2 scheme at all. So I sometimes generalize unfairly.

Ive just never seen a truely dominant Cover 2 defense. Only the 2001 Bucs had a dominant Cover 2. The rest of the Cover 2 teams were not that great quite honestly. Even these current Bears. Urlacher lost a lot of points in my eyes after Jeff Saturday destroyed him in the SB. 200 yards rushing is unexceptable if you want to take shots at the 85 Bears team the way Urlacher did. Especially when most of those 200 yards were right at you.
__________________
bigbluedefense is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2007, 05:49 PM    (permalink
draftguru151
:/
Legend
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: RAWR
Posts: 39,155
Reputation: 3772322
draftguru151 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.draftguru151 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.draftguru151 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.draftguru151 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.draftguru151 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.draftguru151 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.draftguru151 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.draftguru151 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.draftguru151 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.draftguru151 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.draftguru151 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

The June kids always know what they are getting for Christmas because daddy can't wrap anything up.
__________________

<Gaius_Baltar> That is correct comahan
<vidae> I ******* LOVE YOU DG
<njx9> <3 dg
draftguru151 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2007, 06:02 PM    (permalink
JCshutEmDown
Rookie
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: 973
Posts: 194
Reputation: 10
JCshutEmDown hopes to escalate quickly but not get out of hand.
Default

25% of the Bucs schedule is against Michael Vick and Reggie Bush. June's speed is needed.
JCshutEmDown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2007, 06:03 PM    (permalink
Geo
Neo Geo (Moderator)
Icon
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: California
Posts: 17,530
Reputation: 121499
Geo is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Geo is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Geo is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Geo is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Geo is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Geo is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Geo is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Geo is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Geo is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Geo is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Geo is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

If you're going to copy/paste Football Outsiders' material, you should at least give credit.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Indystar
“Cato really wanted to stay there [Indianapolis] and I know how badly they [Colts] wanted him,’’ Mackler said. “It just didn’t work out.’’
Agents are funny people.

Quote:
June was instrumental in the Colts winning their first Super Bowl championship in 36 years.
June was much more instrumental in Mo Drew breaking runs of 20+ yards.
__________________
Pugnacity, testosterone, truculence, and belligerence.
Geo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2007, 06:09 PM    (permalink
TACKLE
All-NFLDC
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 10,892
Reputation: 4603369
TACKLE is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.TACKLE is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.TACKLE is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.TACKLE is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.TACKLE is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.TACKLE is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.TACKLE is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.TACKLE is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.TACKLE is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.TACKLE is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.TACKLE is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

It will be interesting where he plays. Derrick Brooks is their current WLB and Cato June is certainly not fitted to play SAM backer. Wonder if they'll move Brooks to SAM.
__________________
TACKLE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2007, 06:25 PM    (permalink
Dam8610
Team Leader
All-Pro
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Uncle Sam is CLUTCH!
Posts: 5,876
Reputation: 25259
Dam8610 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Dam8610 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Dam8610 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Dam8610 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Dam8610 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Dam8610 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Dam8610 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Dam8610 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Dam8610 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Dam8610 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Dam8610 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbluedefense View Post
For 85% of the year, the Colts defense was embarrassing to say the least. And Chicago's defense wasn't exactly dominant in the 2nd half of the season, or the playoffs either.
When Tampa 2 teams lose their best DT and S, they tend to fall off a bit. For the Colts, they didn't have Simon at all, and Sanders missed most of the season, and for the Bears, the slide in performance of their defense corrolates perfectly with the losses of Mike Brown (when their run defense started to fall off) and Tommie Harris (when they started giving up points in bunches). You don't like the scheme and that's fine, but you're criticizing it a bit unfairly here.
__________________


The problem arises when people use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support instead of illumination.

If luck is where preparation meets opportunity, then clutch is where failure meets luck.

Quote:
<Add1ct> setting myself on fire can't be that hard
<Add1ct> but tackling a mosquito might prove a challenge
Dam8610 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2007, 06:31 PM    (permalink
etk
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 12,140
Reputation: 46580
etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

My only beef with the Cover 2 is how it is a bend but don't break defense, but Peyton Manning seems to just tear apart the Cover 2 with ease. Without the right players (Bucs 06), the Cover 2 doesn't get you enough big plays defensively.
__________________

sig by BoneKrusher
etk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2007, 07:06 PM    (permalink
bigbluedefense
Team Leader
Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Jersey
Posts: 28,630
Reputation: 3904676
bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dam8610 View Post
When Tampa 2 teams lose their best DT and S, they tend to fall off a bit. For the Colts, they didn't have Simon at all, and Sanders missed most of the season, and for the Bears, the slide in performance of their defense corrolates perfectly with the losses of Mike Brown (when their run defense started to fall off) and Tommie Harris (when they started giving up points in bunches). You don't like the scheme and that's fine, but you're criticizing it a bit unfairly here.
I don't want to turn this thread into a Cover 2 debate. And I'll cede the point that at times I can be unfair in my evaluation of the scheme.

But the issue bolded is a big problem for me scheme wise. The Cover 2 relies on the SS to stop the run the way normal defenses rely on ILBs. Now thats fine and dandy for one game, but over a 16 week season + playoffs, its awfully demanding of an undersized SS to hold up all season under these conditions. And thats why you see the SS get injured often, and Cover 2 teams taper off at the end of the season, when you want to be at your best.

I understand injuries can't be expected and are part of the game, but this scheme makes the SS much more susceptible to being injured, and thus I don't know if its a viable excuse. It should almost be expected, unless you have a John Lynch type of SS who is thick enough to handle the burden. But then, your pass coverage suffers, so its a double edged sword. The Cover 2 scheme is probably at its best if theres solid depth at SS. I think its essential to have 2 starting caliber strong safeties in this scheme if you don't want to see production taper off at the end of the season. A rotation would be ideal, keeping both fresh for the playoffs.
__________________

Last edited by bigbluedefense : 03-17-2007 at 07:08 PM. Reason: Spelling errors
bigbluedefense is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2007, 09:25 PM    (permalink
Dam8610
Team Leader
All-Pro
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Uncle Sam is CLUTCH!
Posts: 5,876
Reputation: 25259
Dam8610 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Dam8610 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Dam8610 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Dam8610 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Dam8610 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Dam8610 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Dam8610 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Dam8610 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Dam8610 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Dam8610 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Dam8610 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbluedefense View Post
I don't want to turn this thread into a Cover 2 debate. And I'll cede the point that at times I can be unfair in my evaluation of the scheme.

But the issue bolded is a big problem for me scheme wise. The Cover 2 relies on the SS to stop the run the way normal defenses rely on ILBs. Now thats fine and dandy for one game, but over a 16 week season + playoffs, its awfully demanding of an undersized SS to hold up all season under these conditions. And thats why you see the SS get injured often, and Cover 2 teams taper off at the end of the season, when you want to be at your best.

I understand injuries can't be expected and are part of the game, but this scheme makes the SS much more susceptible to being injured, and thus I don't know if its a viable excuse. It should almost be expected, unless you have a John Lynch type of SS who is thick enough to handle the burden. But then, your pass coverage suffers, so its a double edged sword. The Cover 2 scheme is probably at its best if theres solid depth at SS. I think its essential to have 2 starting caliber strong safeties in this scheme if you don't want to see production taper off at the end of the season. A rotation would be ideal, keeping both fresh for the playoffs.
You make a valid point about safety depth being important to a Tampa 2 team, but in the same vein, LB depth is important to a team that relies on its LBs to be the playmakers of the defense. It's always tough to replace a good-great player at a position of key importance in any scheme. That said, your idea of a rotation intrigues me. It leads me to wonder even more what the Colts would have done had they had Sanders, Bethea, and Doss all healthy for the entire season. Perhaps a rotation would be for the best if a team has the talent and depth at the position to pull it off.
__________________


The problem arises when people use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support instead of illumination.

If luck is where preparation meets opportunity, then clutch is where failure meets luck.

Quote:
<Add1ct> setting myself on fire can't be that hard
<Add1ct> but tackling a mosquito might prove a challenge
Dam8610 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2007, 10:33 PM    (permalink
Shiver
Icon
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: The Lynn Swan of SWDC Hall of Fame
Posts: 18,201
Reputation: 210983
Shiver is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Shiver is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Shiver is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Shiver is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Shiver is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Shiver is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Shiver is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Shiver is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Shiver is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Shiver is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Shiver is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by etk View Post
Without the right players (Bucs 06), the Cover 2 doesn't get you enough big plays defensively.
That could be said about any scheme. Washington's 4-3 blitz of '06, Cleveland's 3-4 defense, for example off the top of my head. The Tampa 2 can be dominant, like the '99-'02 Bucs, the Bears when healthy the past two seasons. Overall, I don't care for 'bend but don't break' defenses, but they have been proven to work in the right situations.
__________________

Shiver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2007, 10:50 PM    (permalink
etk
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 12,140
Reputation: 46580
etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiver View Post
That could be said about any scheme. Washington's 4-3 blitz of '06, Cleveland's 3-4 defense, for example off the top of my head. The Tampa 2 can be dominant, like the '99-'02 Bucs, the Bears when healthy the past two seasons. Overall, I don't care for 'bend but don't break' defenses, but they have been proven to work in the right situations.
How did I know you would be the first smart person to point that out? I think the Cover 2 is the most dangerous defense to run without correct personnel, because if you can't make plays and stop the run in the Cover 2, you basically can't get your defense off the field. In a 3-4 blitz defense, you can occasionally get away with mediocre talent because the scheme alone can produce pressure and big plays.
__________________

sig by BoneKrusher
etk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2007, 10:55 PM    (permalink
Shiver
Icon
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: The Lynn Swan of SWDC Hall of Fame
Posts: 18,201
Reputation: 210983
Shiver is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Shiver is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Shiver is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Shiver is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Shiver is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Shiver is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Shiver is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Shiver is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Shiver is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Shiver is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Shiver is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by etk View Post
How did I know you would be the first smart person to point that out? I think the Cover 2 is the most dangerous defense to run without correct personnel, because if you can't make plays and stop the run in the Cover 2, you basically can't get your defense off the field. In a 3-4 blitz defense, you can occasionally get away with mediocre talent because the scheme alone can produce pressure and big plays.
Occasionally, sure. But eventually you'll be found out, just like Dallas this year. New Orleans exposed them at the end of the year. After that they couldn't stop the bleeding.
__________________


Last edited by Shiver : 03-17-2007 at 11:04 PM.
Shiver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2007, 10:59 PM    (permalink
MP123
Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 648
Reputation: -189
MP123 smells like sex panther.
Default

It's not surprising considering their history of losing linebackers in free agency. They've lost Gary Thornton to the Titans, Marcus Washington to the Redskins, Mike Peterson to the Jaguars, and Now Cato June to the Buccaneers. And I'm sure there are more to come in the future.
MP123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2007, 11:05 PM    (permalink
Shiver
Icon
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: The Lynn Swan of SWDC Hall of Fame
Posts: 18,201
Reputation: 210983
Shiver is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Shiver is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Shiver is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Shiver is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Shiver is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Shiver is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Shiver is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Shiver is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Shiver is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Shiver is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Shiver is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

My motto; scheme is overrated, execution is everything.
__________________

Shiver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2007, 11:26 PM    (permalink
niel89
SuperBowl Prop Bet Winner
All-Pro
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: 2nd deck at Stanford Stadium
Posts: 7,791
Reputation: 1730569
niel89 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.niel89 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.niel89 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.niel89 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.niel89 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.niel89 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.niel89 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.niel89 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.niel89 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.niel89 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.niel89 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiver View Post
My motto; scheme is overrated, execution is everything.
i agree, you could have the best DC but if your players arent that talented and they cant execute then all that great scheme will fail. they need to go hand in hand to be truly effective
__________________


Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Wright View Post
Don't be a stranger. Jordyzzzz would want you to stick around. ;o)

Touch Fuzzy, Get Dizzy
niel89 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2007, 12:30 AM    (permalink
smittyjs
All-Pro
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Hendersonville, VYisaGod
Posts: 9,305
Reputation: 128139
smittyjs is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.smittyjs is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.smittyjs is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.smittyjs is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.smittyjs is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.smittyjs is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.smittyjs is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.smittyjs is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.smittyjs is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.smittyjs is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.smittyjs is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

VY>>Cato June
Damn i'm going to miss playing against him two times a season :(
__________________

Jay Cutler>Matt Leinart>>>>danman253
XBL GT smitty js Go Vandy!!!!!!
Chris Johnson son!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoUr82vUx60
http://www.bangcartoon.com/2007/pacman.htm
smittyjs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2007, 12:31 AM    (permalink
smittyjs
All-Pro
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Hendersonville, VYisaGod
Posts: 9,305
Reputation: 128139
smittyjs is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.smittyjs is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.smittyjs is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.smittyjs is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.smittyjs is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.smittyjs is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.smittyjs is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.smittyjs is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.smittyjs is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.smittyjs is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.smittyjs is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MP123 View Post
It's not surprising considering their history of losing linebackers in free agency. They've lost Gary Thornton to the Titans, Marcus Washington to the Redskins, Mike Peterson to the Jaguars, and Now Cato June to the Buccaneers. And I'm sure there are more to come in the future.
David....;)
__________________

Jay Cutler>Matt Leinart>>>>danman253
XBL GT smitty js Go Vandy!!!!!!
Chris Johnson son!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoUr82vUx60
http://www.bangcartoon.com/2007/pacman.htm
smittyjs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2007, 01:16 AM    (permalink
a-dub83
Rookie
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 309
Reputation: 368
a-dub83 hopes to escalate quickly but not get out of hand.a-dub83 hopes to escalate quickly but not get out of hand.
Default

It was nice to have you in board Cato, good luck with Tampa. Freddie Keiaho is likely to step into the WLB spot, who is a thumper as tackler. I expect him to be even better than June, heck I know he will. Hopefully we can land Jon Beason to play SSLB.
__________________
Colt 4 life

Last edited by a-dub83 : 03-18-2007 at 01:23 AM.
a-dub83 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2007, 09:25 AM    (permalink
tylerb929
Rookie
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 386
Reputation: 1030
tylerb929 is a cocksman.tylerb929 is a cocksman.tylerb929 is a cocksman.tylerb929 is a cocksman.tylerb929 is a cocksman.
Default

I think Hagler will play the weak side. He has a year more experience and thats where he is placed on the depth chart, plus his measurables were rediculous. Keiaho should replace Morris for strong side by the end of the year in my opinion.
tylerb929 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2007, 09:56 AM    (permalink
R.I.P DWILL DNASH
 
Posts: n/a
Reputation:
Default

I think it was a pretty good signing.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2007, 10:02 AM    (permalink
cardsalltheway
Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Naptown
Posts: 1,401
Reputation: 652
cardsalltheway is a cocksman.cardsalltheway is a cocksman.cardsalltheway is a cocksman.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by a-dub83 View Post
It was nice to have you in board Cato, good luck with Tampa. Freddie Keiaho is likely to step into the WLB spot, who is a thumper as tackler. I expect him to be even better than June, heck I know he will. Hopefully we can land Jon Beason to play SSLB.
I think Keiaho is going to be the future MIKE or SAM rather than play WILL. And like tylerb said, Hagler is going to make a run at a starting job too.
__________________

Designs by D-Unit

ILEMTPKC - I Love Eli Manning <The Patriots Killer> Club
cardsalltheway is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2007, 10:40 AM    (permalink
bigbluedefense
Team Leader
Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Jersey
Posts: 28,630
Reputation: 3904676
bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiver View Post
My motto; scheme is overrated, execution is everything.
My boy BP always says gameplan is overrated, execution is underrated.

But I will say this, while Im an X and O junky and love the schematics of the game, I think from a coaching standpoint, more important than the scheme itself is player utilization and adjustments. Thats what great coaches do.
__________________
bigbluedefense is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2007, 11:00 AM    (permalink
tylerb929
Rookie
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 386
Reputation: 1030
tylerb929 is a cocksman.tylerb929 is a cocksman.tylerb929 is a cocksman.tylerb929 is a cocksman.tylerb929 is a cocksman.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cardsalltheway View Post
I think Keiaho is going to be the future MIKE or SAM rather than play WILL. And like tylerb said, Hagler is going to make a run at a starting job too.
Can't wait for Hagler to start.

Hagler's Campus/Combine results:
4.47 in the 40-yard dash
Bench pressed 225 pounds 35 times
445-pound bench press
485-pound squat
35½-inch vertical jump
10-foot-4 broad jump
tylerb929 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2007, 02:53 PM    (permalink
Philliez01
All-Pro
 
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Suck for Luck <<< Trippin' For Griffin
Posts: 5,322
Reputation: 431630
Philliez01 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Philliez01 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Philliez01 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Philliez01 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Philliez01 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Philliez01 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Philliez01 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Philliez01 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Philliez01 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Philliez01 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Philliez01 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by a-dub83 View Post
It was nice to have you in board Cato, good luck with Tampa. Freddie Keiaho is likely to step into the WLB spot, who is a thumper as tackler. I expect him to be even better than June, heck I know he will. Hopefully we can land Jon Beason to play SSLB.
Keiaho is the future MIKE in my opinion. He'll probably see some time at SAM but I do not expect him to start to be honest. I know the coaching staff is high on him but I just see him as a perfect MIKE. He isn't a WILL because his coverage ability is lacking to say the least.
__________________
Is that a rash?



Give JKPIGSKIN credit for this masterpiece
Philliez01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:59 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.