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I like the confidence I'm seeing. Still too pass happy, but I won't complain if it's working. The WRs are doing a good job today. Dez is a special special player... on the brink of breaking out a big play.
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I'm just happy to see us actually have an opportunity to throw a little deeper today. Seriously havent seen many fly routes this year. O-Line is playing well in pass protection. Run blocking has been hit or miss...mostly bad.

edit...And Hurd has played about 6-7 offensive plays. A little PT, that's all I ask. Nice to see him in the mix a bit today.
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Mcbriar still has that leg.
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How do you not pick up Mario Williams? geez.

Romo had to force that one. Lucky it wasnt a pick and lucky Romo wasnt hurt.
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That bomb to Dez got me so excited. Gotta go for a couple of those a game.
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Really Jenkins. you had help inside.
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Okay. I take that back
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Felix looks just fine boys...that o-line is just garbage.
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Have they at least cut down on the penalties today?
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7 penalties for 44 yards. The worst being a Miles clip that called back a monster Felix Jones gain.
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God, I hope Roy is finally turning the corner.
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Has Dez scared Roy into being the great wideout that he once was in Detroit? Every week Dez looks like he's on the verge of breaking out big time, and Roy has been looking pretty good as well. Outside of the fumble last week Roy has looked like he'll have a good season.

But just wait until Dez gets it. That guy is going to be a major terror. The way he moves is so unreal. Him and Austin have me like a little kid over here!
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If we play like that every week.... 14-2 whats up?

Haha but in reality, a very good turn around win.

Now we know what we can do... use this bye to get our **** straight.

On a negative note, from what I saw/heard, Ball looked like sh*t.

Can anyone who watched the game elaborate?
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He's garbage. If anyone ever figures this out. Expect to get burnt deep. He's very timid in run support and he sure as hell hits like a corner. He was bouncing off of guys today. He tried to unload on Foster and flew backward about 10 yards. lol.
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He's garbage. If anyone ever figures this out. Expect to get burnt deep. He's very timid in run support and he sure as hell hits like a corner. He was bouncing off of guys today. He tried to unload on Foster and flew backward about 10 yards. lol.
Are you for a 1st round safety, or waiting on AOA?..
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Are you for a 1st round safety, or waiting on AOA?..
Right now I'm in the O-Line in round one camp. If Jerry sticks by his guns...then as usual, I want a S in round one.
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This game was more of a relief than anything. I'm still curbing my expectations.
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Felix looks just fine boys...that o-line is just garbage.
I still haven't seen the same breakaway burst from the past. I really don't think the added weight was a good thing for him to do.
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I still haven't seen the same breakaway burst from the past. I really don't think the added weight was a good thing for him to do.
I'm sure the only reason he put on the muscle was so that he'd see more carries and prove more durable. But, Garrett still gives him nothing. I wouldnt be surprised if they tell him to come in a little slimmer next year.

He looks fine...we just need to get him the open field. He may be a step slower, but it's not a major difference. On his big gainer that was called back today, he looked like classic Felix. the run blocking is just horribly sporadic.

I'm more concerned with Barber running east-west all the time. He's doing pretty damn well when he runs forward, but he's trying to bounce a few too many outside. He doesnt have that burst anymore...he needs to travel north-south and just run downhill.

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and I'm sorry, but I dont think in any circumstance that Barber's workload should double that of Felix's, like it did today.
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I'm sure the only reason he put on the muscle was so that he'd see more carries and prove more durable. But, Garrett still gives him nothing. I wouldnt be surprised if they tell him to come in a little slimmer next year.

He looks fine...we just need to get him the open field. He may be a step slower, but it's not a major difference. On his big gainer that was called back today, he looked like classic Felix. the run blocking is just horribly sporadic.

I'm more concerned with Barber running east-west all the time. He's doing pretty damn well when he runs forward, but he's trying to bounce a few too many outside. He doesnt have that burst anymore...he needs to travel north-south and just run downhill.

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and I'm sorry, but I dont think in any circumstance that Barber's workload should double that of Felix's, like it did today.
Right now Barber still gets more time because he plays smarter. Like when we need to run out the clock, he makes sure he stays inbounds. Felix didn't. Also, most of Barber's carries came in the 4th. That's close out time. His time.

If Felix wants to be featured more, he can't live off the excuse that he needs better run blocking or he needs to be put out in space. Barber doesn't get that excuse, but I'm sure he'd like that too. Barber is just a workhorse that plays well going north/south or east/west.
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Barber isnt even playing all that well...he only averaged about 3 yards a pop today because he kept running sideways. Aggravating me in the process. He also fumbled. lol. If he would just run north-south, he'd be just fine. He needs to adapt to his diminishing skills as a runner. He's not even close to what he was. Heck, today instead of accelerating for extra yards, he would brace for contact and just try to protect the football on several occassions. You can tell he knows he's not as good as he once was, but he hasnt fully grasped it yet, with the constant attempting to bounce everything outside. Which is something he's always done in his career.

Felix sees different types of plays, designed to get him in space. But our line has been terrible at sealing off that edge on outside runs. Like I said before, Garrett needs to find some kind of running package that works with regualrity for Felix and that line. So he's not constantly getting pushed out of bounds on a toss or being met at the handoff. Felix is still as scary as ever in the open field, he played very well today. The problem has been getting him to the 2nd level. Today, the O-line played very well...especially in the 2nd half. I actually wonder why Garrett didnt get Felix the ball more, seeing how there were big holes to run through and he was averaging 6-7 yards every carry. But again, that Garrett is a god damn moron.

Honestly...Barber is getting closer and closer to being a goal line back exclusively. Can you really keeping feeding him the ball 15 or so times a game, when he's only picking up 3 yards per?

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And as for Felix's YPC, if it's brought up. I think it's 3.5 (edit 4.0) right now. And that is greatly skewed because of that 7 for 7 game. Where he was met in the backfield constantly. His 22 carries on the year, is actually only 5 less than Barber saw just today. We need to get Felix the ball a lot more. Our offense today, was reminicient to last year's and a big reason why, was because we were getting Felix involved. The offense always has a little more giddyup, when Felix is running well.

It may sound like I'm making excuses for Felix...but I'm really not. Our line is legitmatly erratic in the run blocking game. And we're going to need to find ways to offset some of that, somehow. If that means simplifying the playbook and weeding out some of the consistently unsuccessful running plays...so be it.
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You are making excuses for Felix a bit...

Barber looked decent today against a very fast Texans line, and to undermine that for the sake of defending Felix is a bit disingenuous. Felix needs more touches...The line needs to play better, but what I"m seeing from Barber isn't the same thing you're seeing. He's making the most of his carries, even if he's lost a step. He's hitting the hole, and being decisive in doing so. That's the best thing he can do to help an Erratic o-line.

Garrett still needs to get Felix out in space...That first run that was called back was a shame:td


Choice needs to be benched also.
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Dez was so close to scoring those 2 TD's today, he's gonna be something to watch, he makes the toughest plays look so east.


And MOTH, you ARE making excuses for Felix, even if you don't see it yet. You've been putting him on this pedastal for so long and making him into something he hasn't proved he is yet.


You've said things such as he's better then Chris Johnson, or can be just as good as he is, the same Chris Johnson who just broke Marshall Faulk's yards from scrimmage record and has been a feature back for the last 2 years on an offense that he is the sole offensive weapon.


You've also called him a pro bowl caliber back, among other things he's yet to prove. You've made tons of excuses for him and nothing is ever on him. At some point you've got to stop saying it's Garrett, or the offensive line, or not enough touches, or whatever else it is.


He's not special, I love his potential as much as you but he needs to show it on the field. Point blank, period. I'm not trying to hear anything else about how it's always someone else's fault when he doesn't produce. I love his potential and what type of player he is, but he needs to produce, it's pretty simple.
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meh. I dont see it as making excuses. Go re-watch that Bears game...and find me a play, where he wasnt being hit in the backfield, at the handoff, no less. With any semblance of blocking...the guy is a 5 yard per carry type of back.

Barber has averaged 3 yards per carry in each of his last two games. And he fumbled today. I wouldnt call that being productive. I was yelling at my tv all game for him to stop running sideways. I dont think he heard me, though. But really, that's not decisive running. He still has a bad habit off bouncing runs outside and his burst is long gone. He cant make those runs anymore. This Barber seems to get worse as the games goes on, opposed to be what he used to be.

There is no reason he should have 15 or so more carries than Felix right now. As for benching Choice? He doesnt even play really to begin with...but I'd bet if he had seen as many carries as Barber this year, he would have easily surpassed his numbers. All of his runs consist of running out of the wildcat and draws out of shotgun...this isnt college. It doesnt work all that well.

Listen, I love Barber. But it is more than evident that he is pretty beat. Garrett absolutely loves him, though. Which is also, insanely obvious. I honestly dont get it.
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Dez was so close to scoring those 2 TD's today, he's gonna be something to watch, he makes the toughest plays look so east.


And MOTH, you ARE making excuses for Felix, even if you don't see it yet. You've been putting him on this pedastal for so long and making him into something he hasn't proved he is yet.


You've said things such as he's better then Chris Johnson, or can be just as good as he is, the same Chris Johnson who just broke Marshall Faulk's yards from scrimmage record and has been a feature back for the last 2 years on an offense that he is the sole offensive weapon.


You've also called him a pro bowl caliber back, among other things he's yet to prove. You've made tons of excuses for him and nothing is ever on him. At some point you've got to stop saying it's Garrett, or the offensive line, or not enough touches, or whatever else it is.


He's not special, I love his potential as much as you but he needs to show it on the field. Point blank, period. I'm not trying to hear anything else about how it's always someone else's fault when he doesn't produce. I love his potential and what type of player he is, but he needs to produce, it's pretty simple.
Your point is equally moot...becuase, when is he ever going to get a chance to prove his worth? Garrett is giving him the same kind of workload that he saw as a rookie. He's not getting CJ carries. Not even a 3rd of them. And yes, I did say that he was every bit as talented as Chris Johnson....prior to his 2000 yard season. And yes, I do think he can be a very special player. I know you dont want to hear it, because you believe in this added weight nonsense, I suppose...but he has been absolutely stunning to this point in his career. A true game breaker, who averaged 6 yards per carry with over 100 touches last year. He has more than proven that he is the best back on the team, and has not seen any kind of reward for it. Matter of fact, he sees the ball less this year, than last.

What has Felix done for anyone to not give him the benefit of the doubt? That is what makes no sense here, coming from your side. Many fans are quick to get down on players...but Felix has done nothing for the fans to sour on him. It's no secret that he doesnt get the ball, anyone with a pair of eyes could tell you that our run blocking is terrible, more times than not, and Garrett has become one of the laughing stocks of the league, with the playcalling and offensive balance, or imbalance. There are more than enough factors weighing on the opposite end of the spectrum, to give Felix that benefit.

It's very aggravating to see a nearly over the hill Marion Barber, continue to double up Felix's carries. It makes no sense, what so ever.
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