ESPN's Brad Edwards projects Boise State as BCS #1 - Page 4

SickwithIt1010 · 10-12-2010, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by wonderbredd24

Interesting... so Boise State-Ohio State on ABC or ESPN wouldn't get much of a boost in ratings over Ohio State-Ohio or Ohio State-Marshall on the Big Ten Network?

Sure you wanna go with that?

id like to see what he says to this...

Smooth Criminal · 10-12-2010, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by wonderbredd24

Interesting... so Boise State-Ohio State on ABC or ESPN wouldn't get much of a boost in ratings over Ohio State-Ohio or Ohio State-Marshall on the Big Ten Network?

Sure you wanna go with that?

It would naturally, but don't pretend Boises ratings are great. If it had to compete with another decent game, it would definitely lose.

Virginia Tech game was different because it was the only game on at the time. Definitely a smart move.

And the Big Ten makes a ton of money getting those games on their network. Thats why Big Ten teams makes more money per school then any other conference.

Smooth Criminal · 10-12-2010, 03:14 PM

And I think were getting way off my only point in this thread, that Boise doesn't deserve to play in a title game over an undefeated team from a real conference.

wonderbredd24 · 10-12-2010, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Criminal

It would naturally, but don't pretend Boises ratings are great. If it had to compete with another decent game, it would definitely lose.

Virginia Tech game was different because it was the only game on at the time. Definitely a smart move.

And the Big Ten makes a ton of money getting those games on their network. Thats why Big Ten teams makes more money per school then any other conference.

The BTN's profitability has nothing to do with an individual games' TV ratings.

What game would #1 Ohio State-#3 Boise State lose to in terms of ratings this season?

wonderbredd24 · 10-12-2010, 03:18 PM

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And I think were getting way off my only point in this thread, that Boise doesn't deserve to play in a title game over an undefeated team from a real conference.

And that's because they reportedly demand too much money to play anyone on the part of the schedule they can control even though you already admitted their OOC was satisfactory this year.

JoeJoeBrown · 10-12-2010, 03:19 PM

Still of large note wrt BSU's schedule issues is that they have turned down both a 2 and 1 deal offer by Nebraska and Texas.

Anyone, anywhere (except the good teams).

Smooth Criminal · 10-12-2010, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by wonderbredd24

The BTN's profitability has nothing to do with an individual games' TV ratings.

What game would #1 Ohio State-#3 Boise State lose to in terms of ratings this season?

Well now that Ohio State is 1 and Boise is 3 it would do well, but that wouldn't have been they case when they actually played cause OSU only has conference games left.

But sure, it would do very well. I honestly dont think it would make Ohio State much more money, I think the network would benefit more then either of the schools. And the Big Tens profitability has everything to do wihh the ratings because Ohio State gets many millions every year from the BTNs profitability.

wonderbredd24 · 10-12-2010, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Criminal

Well now that Ohio State is 1 and Boise is 3 it would do well, but that wouldn't have been they case when they actually played cause OSU only has conference games left.

But sure, it would do very well. I honestly dont think it would make Ohio State much more money, I think the network would benefit more then either of the schools. And the Big Tens profitability has everything to do wihh the ratings because Ohio State gets many millions every year from the BTNs profitability.

Every school in the Big Ten gets $22 million per year from their TV deal.

wonderbredd24 · 10-12-2010, 03:23 PM

Here's my question... what OOC would be good enough to allow Boise State to play in the National Title game? Where's the line?

Smooth Criminal · 10-12-2010, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by wonderbredd24

And that's because they reportedly demand too much money to play anyone on the part of the schedule they can control even though you already admitted their OOC was satisfactory this year.

Yes, their out of conference was satisfactory this year. But satisfactory simply isn't good enough for a team like Boise, that plays a pathetic conference schedule.

They had to have a ridiculous out of conference schedule to boost their sos enough to compete with the real conferences.

I'm all for Boise playing for the title, as long as they don't get handed the soot over a team that deserves it more. The BCS wont let that happen, so I don't know why I give a damn.

LizardState · 10-12-2010, 03:27 PM

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Yes, their out of conference was satisfactory this year. But satisfactory simply isn't good enough for a team like Boise, that plays a pathetic conference schedule.

Hear, hear, more of this, smoothy.

I would love to see college FB's flavor of the month boutique team play an SEC team not named Vandy or in the state of Mississippi away from their weird blue field.

Or a Pac 10 team not from the state of Washington. Half their team is from CA anyway.

wonderbredd24 · 10-12-2010, 03:28 PM

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Hear, hear, more of this, smoothy.

I would love to see college FB's flavor of the month boutique team play an SEC team not named Vandy or in the state of Mississippi away from their weird blue field.

So your Alabama Crimson Tide getting monkey stomped by 3 TDs by the Utes didn't convince you Boise State could beat a decent SEC team? Seriously?

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Or a Pac 10 team not from the state of Washington. Half their team is from CA anyway.

Like both teams from Oregon?

Smooth Criminal · 10-12-2010, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by wonderbredd24

Here's my question... what OOC would be good enough to allow Boise State to play in the National Title game? Where's the line?

Hard to say. If they're one of only 2 undefeated teams left, what they have now is fine.

If they're 3, they'd have to have the schedule to hop them. It's gonna be different for every team, all depending on whose left undefeated.

Shane P. Hallam · 10-12-2010, 03:30 PM

This thread is why the BCS works and is here to stay. Because it creates ALL this discussion and promotion of their product. If there was a playoff, no one would care, we all would know Boise would be in the playoff and be done with it.

Smooth Criminal · 10-12-2010, 03:30 PM

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So your Alabama Crimson Tide getting monkey stomped by 3 TDs by the Utes didn't convince you Boise State could beat a decent SEC team? Seriously?

Like both teams from Oregon?

I dont think Boise can't compete, I think they're a really talented team. I just don't think they should be in the title game over teams that have done more to earn the spot.

Smooth Criminal · 10-12-2010, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Shane P. Hallam

This thread is why the BCS works and is here to stay. Because it creates ALL this discussion and promotion of their product. If there was a playoff, no one would care, we all would know Boise would be in the playoff and be done with it.

I have always kind of agreed with that, but the BCS isn't making money off this message board, and I can't believe a playoff wouldn't draw amazing amounts of attention and money.

wonderbredd24 · 10-12-2010, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Shane P. Hallam

This thread is why the BCS works and is here to stay. Because it creates ALL this discussion and promotion of their product. If there was a playoff, no one would care, we all would know Boise would be in the playoff and be done with it.

No one cares about playoffs.

The NFL, NCAA basketball tournament, NBA, MLB? All barely hanging on. Deciding who their champion is on the field and people being happy with that result? Passe.

Eleventy billion people watching the Superbowl is definitely not as good as people discussing college football's system of picking a champion. Because discussion moves product and sells air time.

Edit: And the BCS may be boned and it has nothing to do with fans, coaches, players, or anything else you'd think of... it may be boned due to our good friends at the IRS. Only the Rose Bowl is on the level with how they operate.

SickwithIt1010 · 10-12-2010, 03:36 PM

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Still of large note wrt BSU's schedule issues is that they have turned down both a 2 and 1 deal offer by Nebraska and Texas.

Anyone, anywhere (except the good teams).

link please?

JoeJoeBrown · 10-12-2010, 03:51 PM

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link please?

Nebraska

I've seen comments about UT, but a quick search yielded nothing.

LizardState · 10-12-2010, 03:53 PM

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So your Alabama Crimson Tide getting monkey stomped by 3 TDs by the Utes didn't convince you Boise State could beat a decent SEC team? Seriously?

Relevance, seriously? Utah >>>>>>>>>>>> Boise St.

Or how about your Ohio St. Luckeyes, think they would monkey stomp them?

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No one cares about playoffs.

No one? Only about 75-80% of fans polled in every yr. I've seen a poll, + heavyweight FBS/BCS coaches, + the President of the US...... I could go on.

njx9 · 10-12-2010, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Shane P. Hallam

This thread is why the BCS works and is here to stay. Because it creates ALL this discussion and promotion of their product. If there was a playoff, no one would care, we all would know Boise would be in the playoff and be done with it.

strongly disagree. i have not and will continue to not watch a single BCS bowl game until the situation is resolved with a playoff of some kind. they won't get my tv money, and, where i can, i avoid buying products from the sponsors.

does my tiny contribution (or lack thereof) mean ****? of course not. but i refuse to support a product that's almost inarguably inferior for the consumer, no matter how much i may argue about it.

JoeJoeBrown · 10-12-2010, 04:03 PM

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Or how about your Ohio St. Luckeyes, think they would monkey stomp them?

The OSU defensive front seven would overwhelm their offense.

And "Luckeyes"? Really? You do very well at furthering the perception that the rest of the nation has of the residents of the state of Alabama.

wonderbredd24 · 10-12-2010, 04:03 PM

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Relevance, seriously? Utah >>>>>>>>>>>> Boise St.

Boise State managed to beat the best of the Mountain West in TCU last year without the blue turf. I don't see why they couldn't beat Utah.

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Or how about your Ohio St. Luckeyes, think they would monkey stomp them?

I'd love to find out. What we do know is Alabama got destroyed.

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No one? Only about 75-80% of fans polled in every yr. I've seen a poll, + heavyweight FBS/BCS coaches, + the President of the US...... I could go on.

Hi, I'm obvious sarcasm. Have we met?

Smooth Criminal · 10-12-2010, 04:04 PM

I'd love to join the boycott, but there's no way I could ever not watch a college football game.

So I'll just continue to support the broken system and ***** that someone needs to be done.

JoeJoeBrown · 10-12-2010, 04:07 PM

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strongly disagree. i have not and will continue to not watch a single BCS bowl game until the situation is resolved with a playoff of some kind. they won't get my tv money, and, where i can, i avoid buying products from the sponsors.

does my tiny contribution (or lack thereof) mean ****? of course not. but i refuse to support a product that's almost inarguably inferior for the consumer, no matter how much i may argue about it.

While flawed, it's still entertaining for the most part.

Perfection is difficult to achieve, and even a hardcore playoff will not yield the most optimal of results, as it rewards the teams that were playing the very best on one day.

Still, props on your convictions. The current solution is ridiculous, and empty. It's still a mythical national championship.

I mean it's so messed up that we can have a situation where MSU and OSU are both undefeated in the same conference (albeit this won't be an issue next season.)