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Old 10-27-2010, 10:11 PM    (permalink
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As a Seahawks fan, Curry's strengths are Run Stopping ability and Man Coverage and weakness are Zone coverage, instincts and awareness. He has a tendency to run himself out of a lot of plays.

He'll probably be a late bloomer somewhere else mostly in a 3-4 scheme as an ILB as most people mention here. He wont live up to his draft status but is a pretty productive player though.
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I remember when Ryan Sims was considered the safest Defense of player in the 2002 draft and look how that turned out.
ughhh I was hoping his name would not be mentioned...
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I absolutely hated the pick when we made it and yelled about it on this site on draft day.

We could have Mark Sanchez right now.

That year, GM Tim Ruskell was fighting to keep his job and felt the need to take the most pro-ready prospect who could help the team the quickest at #4. He failed to realize that a) Curry had already pretty much reached his potential and b) 4-3 OLB is not an impact position worth 4th overall money/passing on impact positions.

But I digress...

Curry is playing well right now as ASDF mentioned. He's not the type of guy who's going to put up statistics (Hawthorne plays SLB, Curry WLB), but he's been a key cog on the #2 ranked run defense.

The risk at #4 is striking out (Sanchez or Crabtree sucks) and Ruskell, feeling the pressure to win now, went with the safe (stupid) pick and missed out on the reward.

He was fired just a few months following that draft.
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I only remember people saying that Curry would be a "safe" pick.
Will never be a superstar but will be a starter for ten years.
... isn't that exactly what he's doing?
Scott Wright labeled him as an elite prospect at one point. I think Scott thought we was going to be a star if he gave him 5 stars.
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As a Seahawks fan, Curry's strengths are Run Stopping ability and Man Coverage and weakness are Zone coverage, instincts and awareness. He has a tendency to run himself out of a lot of plays.

He'll probably be a late bloomer somewhere else mostly in a 3-4 scheme as an ILB as most people mention here. He wont live up to his draft status but is a pretty productive player though.
So Curry = James Farrior?
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I thought he'd be a good player, and he still might be, but his poor pass rushing skills always did bother me.
Again, I agree with this assessment on Curry prior to him being drafted.
At pick #4 for a LB, I expect a pass rushing demon or a guy with 6th sense level playing instincts.
When people say Curry made a ton of splash plays, what I remember is a guy who didn't miss tackles when he had the opportunity, but AJ Hawk was a better playmaking LB in college. So were Patrick Willis and Derrick Johnson, guys who created turnovers and made TFL.

Is he really playing weakside for the 'Hawks? In a 43 D, the weakside LB is supposed to be a sack specialist. Not to bash Curry because if he'd been taken 10 to 15 slots lower, he would have been a great pick, but not in the top 5.
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We could have Mark Sanchez right now.


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Aaron Curry = Napoleon Harris??

Same size and measurables, hope that Curry has a significantly better career in the NFL.
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Hindsight. Hello.
Yes, it's hindsight, but it's also a valuable lesson for teams that might pass up a chance at a top QB prospect. There's been this perception in recent years that QBs are so risky compared to other 'safer' positions.
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To all the Ryan Sims haters at least he was better than Wendell Bryant
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Yes, it's hindsight, but it's also a valuable lesson for teams that might pass up a chance at a top QB prospect. There's been this perception in recent years that QBs are so risky compared to other 'safer' positions.
MY grade of Sanchez was late 1st, early 2nd and was a benifactor of a good situation. Curry was an elite LB prospect. I wouldn't have defined and still don't define Sanchez as a franchise changing QB which you build a team around.
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MY grade of Sanchez was late 1st, early 2nd and was a benifactor of a good situation. Curry was an elite LB prospect. I wouldn't have defined and still don't define Sanchez as a franchise changing QB which you build a team around.
I'm with you on this one as far as Sanchez being some sort of star QB in the making. If we really want to second guess that draft for Seattle they could have easily traded down and drafted a Clay Matthews later in the 1st round. Not sure Clay's as suited for a 4-3 olb but he can get to the QB better than Curry.
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Qbs like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady don't grow on trees. Sanchez is a better QB to build around than what many other teams have.

I'm gonna steal a line from Scoot Van Pelt: QBs are kinda like prom dates: everyone wants to go to the prom with the prettiest girl in school, but that doesn't mean it's bad to go with another girl who isn't quite as pretty. If you're only happy with having the rare Manning level QB, you're going to spend a lot of time not being happy.
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Qbs like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady don't grow on trees. Sanchez is a better QB to build around than what many other teams have.

I'm gonna steal a line from Scoot Van Pelt: QBs are kinda like prom dates: everyone wants to go to the prom with the prettiest girl in school, but that doesn't mean it's bad to go with another girl who isn't quite as pretty. If you're only happy with having the rare Manning level QB, you're going to spend a lot of time not being happy.
Seahawks have a guy who still starts for them, I wouldn't have drafted a Qb with the 3rd overall pick or whatever unless it was a Peyton Manning. I wouldn't spend the 3rd overall pick on a guy who's ceiling I feel may be that of a Hasselbeck. It's all hindsight like I said, just like saying if it was the Browns that drafted Sanchez he may never have been on the cover of GQ or started a game in the NFL.
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There hasn't been a prospect on Peyton's level since Peyton. Waiting on a prospect like that is a big reason why teams like Buffalo and Cleveland are where they are right now.
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There hasn't been a prospect on Peyton's level since Peyton. Waiting on a prospect like that is a big reason why teams like Buffalo and Cleveland are where they are right now.
It has nothing to do with the teams its about the perception of Sanchez. Some teams didn't have rated as high as one team, the Jets. Thats all it takes and he was the benifactor of the situation. If Buffalo feels that Luck or Locker are not that franchise qb, do they take him? Remember, our opinions don't matter and neither does Mel Kipers
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It's not hindsight at all.

I was adamant about wanting Crabtree or Sanchez at #4 well before that draft...
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4-27-2009

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Jets moving up from 17 to 5 to land Mark Sanchez. In a weak draft, the Jets somehow pulled off the 12-spot jump-heist in order to secure the guy who most believe will be a franchise QB. It doesn't get much better than that. Actually, it does. They kept their 2010 first and gave up in my estimation FOUR backup players to move up 12 spots (Coleman technically is a starter but come on, Elam, Ratliff lol, and the second round pick which the Jets would have used on a ho-hum rookie WR or fringe 2nd round 5-tech prospect).
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There's been Matt Stafford.
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It's not hindsight at all.

I was adamant about wanting Crabtree or Sanchez at #4 well before that draft...
I'll back gpngc up here on this one. He never wanted Curry and was never happy about the Curry pick.
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Browns Linebacker Eric Barton and Aaron Curry are brothers, and they met in person for the first time on Saturday.

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Pretty crazy. They share the same mother and father, but were raised by different parents, yet both of them still became NFL linebackers.
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Browns Linebacker Eric Barton and Aaron Curry are brothers, and they met in person for the first time on Saturday.

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Pretty crazy. They share the same mother and father, but were raised by different parents, yet both of them still became NFL linebackers.
That's awesome. I can totally see the resemblance too.




I mean, you can tell Barton is the older one (by around 9 years), but still.
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MY grade of Sanchez was late 1st, early 2nd and was a benifactor of a good situation. Curry was an elite LB prospect. I wouldn't have defined and still don't define Sanchez as a franchise changing QB which you build a team around.
It doesn't matter how elite of a prospect Curry was - you simply don't take a LINEBACKER over a quarterback in the top 5. You just don't. Even if Curry were to become the best linebacker in football, he doesn't even come close to doing what even a merely above-average quarterback like Sanchez can do for your franchise.

QB >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any other position in football, ESPECIALLY linebacker

Any general manager who picks a non-QB with a top 5 pick when the team is lacking a future franchise QB on the roster deserves to be fired. You simply DON'T WIN in the modern NFL without an above-average quarterback.
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Browns Linebacker Eric Barton and Aaron Curry are brothers, and they met in person for the first time on Saturday.

http://blog.seahawks.com/



Pretty crazy. They share the same mother and father, but were raised by different parents, yet both of them still became NFL linebackers.
Unreal story, should be a movie!

They should bronze that woman's uterus!!!
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Qbs like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady don't grow on trees. Sanchez is a better QB to build around than what many other teams have.

I'm gonna steal a line from Scoot Van Pelt: QBs are kinda like prom dates: everyone wants to go to the prom with the prettiest girl in school, but that doesn't mean it's bad to go with another girl who isn't quite as pretty. If you're only happy with having the rare Manning level QB, you're going to spend a lot of time not being happy.
The problem with that analogy is that you can show up to the prom without a date and end up leaving with one of the prettier girls in school if you play your cards right...
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