E Gordon Gee - Page 4

YAYareaRB · 11-25-2010, 02:32 PM

I wish shoelace beats their ass.. old ******

SickwithIt1010 · 11-25-2010, 02:35 PM

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I wish shoelace beats their ass.. old ******

i do too, but the guy has got to stay healthy first.

Smooth Criminal · 11-25-2010, 02:41 PM

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TCU or Boise would definitely be the favorites to beat Ohio State this year.

That's also the most realistic Rose Bowl matchup at this point.

I don't think OSU will pass Wisconsin. I think if we see OSU beat Michigan they'll play in the Orange bowl, with the Sugar bowl taking TCU to play an SEC.

keylime_5 · 11-25-2010, 03:19 PM

why would the Sugar take TCU over Ohio State? This doesn't make sense from the tendency of the BCS in the past to take the money drawing teams like OSU and Notre Dame as at-larges as soon as they get the chance.

SickwithIt1010 · 11-25-2010, 03:46 PM

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why would the Sugar take TCU over Ohio State? This doesn't make sense from the tendency of the BCS in the past to take the money drawing teams like OSU and Notre Dame as at-larges as soon as they get the chance.

cuz tcu is better than you guys.

Sniper · 11-25-2010, 03:52 PM

But the Sugar would make a ******** more money from Ohio State ahead of TCU.

Smooth Criminal · 11-25-2010, 03:54 PM

I don't know why they would, there's no benefit to having TCU. Worse ratings certainly. But a lot of the projections have the sugar bowl opting for TCU over Ohio State.

Works out for me. Florida traveling is easier/safer then New Orleans, and tickets to the Orange Bowl are much cheaper.

SickwithIt1010 · 11-25-2010, 04:14 PM

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But the Sugar would make a ******** more money from Ohio State ahead of TCU.

i know this, but i wanna see the best teams play. i could care less about how much money is made.

Bob Sanders Dreadlock · 11-25-2010, 04:23 PM

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Like I've said before, it's not hard to get up for one game when you've played a bunch of patsies all year that don't really force you to use your depth and challenge you consistently.

This is completely assbackwards. If anything it is more tough to get up an face someone after facing a bunch of nobodies. It is a lot tougher to deal with when you get punched back by someone your own size.

Sniper · 11-25-2010, 04:29 PM

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i know this, but i wanna see the best teams play. i could care less about how much money is made.

That's great. When you get named to the Sugar Bowl committee, maybe they'll care about what you have to say.

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This is completely assbackwards. If anything it is more tough to get up an face someone after facing a bunch of nobodies. It is a lot tougher to deal with when you get punched back by someone your own size.

It's tougher when you have to play your players for all four quarters. It takes a bigger toll on both your starters and your depth players to play for four quarters against a solid football team than it does to play your starters for a half against the Little Sisters of the Poor.

RealityCheck · 11-25-2010, 05:59 PM

I already hated Ohio State before. Now I hate it with an even bigger passion.

So, I'm gonna say it for the millionth time: there's no point in playing in a contest you can't win. We want playoffs, and we want it now.

SickwithIt1010 · 11-25-2010, 06:04 PM

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That's great. When you get named to the Sugar Bowl committee, maybe they'll care about what you have to say.

Maybe when you get a better attitude ill care about what you have to say.

Sniper · 11-25-2010, 06:20 PM

My sincerest apologies for telling the truth. No one gives a flying **** what you want unless you're going to be putting money in their pocket.

SickwithIt1010 · 11-25-2010, 06:34 PM

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My sincerest apologies for telling the truth. No one gives a flying **** what you want unless you're going to be putting money in their pocket.

ill give em a couple bucks if they pick the right games.

Sniper · 11-25-2010, 06:41 PM

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ill give em a couple bucks if they pick the right games.

A couple bucks =/= millions of bucks. The Sugar Bowl would make more money putting Notre Dame against Michigan than it would off of Boise State against TCU. They don't give a rat's ass about who the team du jour is. In the end, money decides who goes. If you're trying to make money and you take TCU or Boise over Ohio State or, say, Alabama, you are officially a dumbass. The BCS people may be stubborn and arrogant, but they know how to make money.

SickwithIt1010 · 11-25-2010, 06:43 PM

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A couple bucks =/= millions of bucks. The Sugar Bowl would make more money putting Notre Dame against Michigan than it would off of Boise State against TCU. They don't give a rat's ass about who the team du jour is. In the end, money decides who goes. If you're trying to make money and you take TCU or Boise over Ohio State or, say, Alabama, you are officially a dumbass. The BCS people may be stubborn and arrogant, but they know how to make money.

well i dont want it to be BSU vs TCU....they need to play different opponents.

I understand your point man im not arguing that. As a college football fan im sure you see where im coming from when i say i just want to see the best football possible.

Sniper · 11-25-2010, 06:51 PM

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well i dont want it to be BSU vs TCU....they need to play different opponents.

I understand your point man im not arguing that. As a college football fan im sure you see where im coming from when i say i just want to see the best football possible.

I don't think there's a sane person under the age of 30 that doesn't want a playoff. You're just looking at way too many old-money school presidents and other assorted rich dudes that prefer making a buttload of money than seeing the best football available, though I'd argue that a playoff would increase their profits tenfold.

bearsfan_51 · 11-25-2010, 07:05 PM

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I don't think there's a sane person under the age of 30 that doesn't want a playoff.

I'm 28 and I don't want a playoff. Not sure if I'm sane.

MidwayMonster31 · 11-25-2010, 08:12 PM

I think it's been said before that Ohio State and USC (or the Rose Bowl in general) are the people that benefit the most from the system the way it is.
I also agree that a correctly (keyword) implemented playoff could make them a lot more money. I just think people like Gee don't want the Boise States, or Utahs (until next year), or even Appalachian State, should they ever move up to FBS, taking money from the Big Ten or Pac-10 by having Boise State or TCU take playoff spots from Ohio State or Stanford.
On a sidenote, I think the reason the SEC wants a playoff so much is that they know that they stand to gain a lot. They could easily get 2 teams in every year and with their success in BCS games, they could have their teams playing 4 games on a playoff instead of 2 with the BCS.
The BCS has built a system where the big conferences can create a huge cash pie for themselves, and they don't have to share with anyone but themselves. I don't see that changing anytime soon.
Also, I'm under 30, am not sane in any way, shape or form, and want a playoff. I like 12 team better, but 8's fine too.

GB12 · 11-25-2010, 11:07 PM

I don't want playoffs. I love the BCS.

Fo realz

ryno626 · 11-25-2010, 11:29 PM

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I am a Michigan and Michigan State fan first and foremost so I do know what I'm talking about.

How is that even possible?

andyjo672 · 11-26-2010, 09:26 AM

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If BSU got an invite to the Big 10 i bet you they would take it...

So you're allowed to make claims without any proof but the guy you shot down above (regarding Miami beating Nevada) is not? You must go to BSU, your education is starting to show.

keylime_5 · 11-26-2010, 10:43 AM

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i know this, but i wanna see the best teams play. i could care less about how much money is made.

So TCU beats the **** out of freakin' Utah and that's how we know they're better than teams like Ohio State and Wisconsin and all the other big boys who consistently win 10 games a year? Under Tressel the Buckeyes have rolled every team they've played OOC games that aren't of equal talent. Kansas State, OK State, Notre Dame - and they were each favorites against the Bucks believe it or not. That's not to mention Miami this year and Washington State PAC Ten champs in 02.

Unfortunately the BCS selection process isn't about the best teams going, it's about money. We could have an NC State vs Pittsburgh Orange Bowl and undfeated TCU could be in some December Bowl playing a lousy midmajor.

RealityCheck · 11-26-2010, 10:53 AM

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So TCU beats the **** out of freakin' Utah and that's how we know they're better than teams like Ohio State and Wisconsin and all the other big boys who consistently win 10 games a year?

1 - Both BSU, TCU and Utah have had 9+ wins seasons for a while now.

2 - TCU beat Utah who was #5 at the time by a 40-point margin on the road. OSU and Wisconsin beat average teams by a couple of TD's.

Plus, I freaking hope Denard beats the hell out of OSU this week.

keylime_5 · 11-26-2010, 11:02 AM

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1 - Both BSU, TCU and Utah have had 9+ wins seasons for a while now.

2 - TCU beat Utah who was #5 at the time by a 40-point margin on the road. OSU and Wisconsin beat average teams by a couple of TD's.

Plus, I freaking hope Denard beats the hell out of OSU this week.

1-This was against the likes of Idaho, Fresno State, New Mexico, Nevada, etc.....not Michigan State, Michigan, Iowa, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Penn State, etc.

2-Utah was #5 at the time b/c they beat a bunch of sorry midmajors and then got beat the following week by a terrible, injury-bitten Notre Dame team. They aren't even one of the 30 best teams in the country.

Boise State and TCU can complain all they want about getting left out. They have nothing to complain about playing teams like that. Join a big boy conference, until then just be grateful that the BCS Bowls are actually taking you at all.