Week 12: Miami at Oakland - Page 5

619 · 11-28-2010, 05:26 PM

Trade Nnamdi for a top 15 pick and some change. I'm dead serious.

I want a new QB.

bernbabybern820 · 11-28-2010, 05:30 PM

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That was a 12 yard pass where Gradkowski got lucky when the CB was turned around and Ford made a good play on the ball.

Cmon man that was a great throw as well.

RaiderNation · 11-28-2010, 05:31 PM

Great play by Ford to comeback to an underthrown ball

Da-Phins · 11-28-2010, 05:33 PM

Guys relax. You got this game. We choke too much and play scared when we are in the lead.

doingthisinsteadofwork · 11-28-2010, 05:33 PM

Jacoby Jones??How do we get stuck with these 2 dumbf****.

RaiderNation · 11-28-2010, 05:47 PM

9 point game with around 4 mins left....

bernbabybern820 · 11-28-2010, 05:47 PM

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9 point game with around 4 mins left....

Can't stop the run

619 · 11-28-2010, 05:49 PM

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9 point game with around 4 mins left....

Keep chuckin' it downfield to Ford! :D

Paranoidmoonduck · 11-28-2010, 05:51 PM

Jacoby Ford is the Rex Grossman of wide receivers.

"**** it, throw it deep"

EvilNixon · 11-28-2010, 05:55 PM

Raider Nation....what have you been watching all year... lol... calling for Campbell. There's a special place in hell for comments like that.

EvilNixon · 11-28-2010, 05:56 PM

Jacoby Ford is our leading rusher =DDD

619 · 11-28-2010, 05:56 PM

This QB issue is giving me a headache. Especially when you realize that you're essentially ****** with whichever option.

EvilNixon · 11-28-2010, 05:58 PM

We're not ****** with Bruce...it's just the offensive line that made DMC incredible, and Campbell semi competent has been regressing these past few weeks..

RaiderNation · 11-28-2010, 06:02 PM

I guess its fair to say going with either Campbell or Gradkowski wouldnt do **** with how we played today

EvilNixon · 11-28-2010, 06:04 PM

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I guess its fair to say going with either Campbell or Gradkowski wouldnt do **** with how we played today

That's not fair

that's spot on...just terrible play up front and the entire team crumbled.

SwagU · 11-28-2010, 06:07 PM

Im calling for Kyle Boller!!!!!!! LOL

NotRickJames · 11-28-2010, 06:36 PM

It tends to be no running game = no passing game.

Bruce was pretty miserable with some decisions though. Like that one short pass on the sidelines that should've been picked. I still think he's better than Campbell, but this was probably is his worst game in a Raiders uniform.

Walter McFadden should see the field only as a last resort.

Defense kept us in, preventing Miami from capitalizing on some turnovers but they were gassed at the end.

I don't want to draft a quarterback. I'd much rather bring in somebody who is more proven. Luck, McElroy and Enderle are the only QBs I like in this draft.

Black Bolt · 11-28-2010, 09:14 PM

Grad shown everyone the arena league scrub he is, yet you all can't get your mouths in position to say what your eyes saw. The guy SUCKS. He can't stay healthy, my 12 year old has a stronger arm and the team doesn't believe in him regardless of what you say. He was getting booed at the end of the game.

There's a children's book called The Emporer Has No Clothes. It's about you. Have a nice night apologizing.

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It tends to be no running game = no passing game.

Bruce was pretty miserable with some decisions though. Like that one short pass on the sidelines that should've been picked. I still think he's better than Campbell, but this was probably is his worst game in a Raiders uniform.

Walter McFadden should see the field only as a last resort.

Defense kept us in, preventing Miami from capitalizing on some turnovers but they were gassed at the end.

I don't want to draft a quarterback. I'd much rather bring in somebody who is more proven. Luck, McElroy and Enderle are the only QBs I like in this draft.

619 · 11-28-2010, 09:49 PM

I was expecting you.

Now get the **** out.

NotRickJames · 11-28-2010, 10:01 PM

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Grad shown everyone the arena league scrub he is, yet you all can't get your mouths in position to say what your eyes saw. The guy SUCKS. He can't stay healthy, my 12 year old has a stronger arm and the team doesn't believe in him regardless of what you say. He was getting booed at the end of the game.

There's a children's book called The Emporer Has No Clothes. It's about you. Have a nice night apologizing.

Wow. You act as though Bruce is the only person to blame. The fact that we got beat in the trenches and had no running game couldn't have been a factor, right? Bruce didn't play well today, but we're kidding ourselves if we think Campbell would have done much better. Campbell probably would have made that pass to Ford that Bruce threw late, I'll give you that - everything else? Come on. Campbell would've folded like a cheap suit under the pressure. Bruce kept plays alive that would'e gone nowhere were Campbell playing. Fact is, we had no running game and couldn't stop the Dolphins on third down.

No one's saying Bruce played well today - but he's far from the only culprit. McClain and Ford played very well today - that is all. Everyone else was a non-factor, even Scrabble got beat a few times. Remember how Campbell did without a running game, a la against the 49ers? It was worse than today.

Black Bolt · 11-28-2010, 10:23 PM

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Wow. You act as though Bruce is the only person to blame. The fact that we got beat in the trenches and had no running game couldn't have been a factor, right? Bruce didn't play well today, but we're kidding ourselves if we think Campbell would have done much better. Campbell probably would have made that pass to Ford that Bruce threw late, I'll give you that - everything else? Come on. Campbell would've folded like a cheap suit under the pressure. Bruce kept plays alive that would'e gone nowhere were Campbell playing. Fact is, we had no running game and couldn't stop the Dolphins on third down.

No one's saying Bruce played well today - but he's far from the only culprit. McClain and Ford played very well today - that is all. Everyone else was a non-factor, even Scrabble got beat a few times. Remember how Campbell did without a running game, a la against the 49ers? It was worse than today.

With all due respect, I really don't want to hear about any of that crap. All of those team flaws apparently don't apply when it comes to critizing Campbell on this biased assed board. The guy wins three games in a row, and all we heard was "The team won in spite of Campbell" and "Campbell had nothing to do with the win." You know it's true just like I know it's true. Oh, and Grad wasn't "not good" Grad SUCKED OUT LOUD. What happen to all his quick decision making? When a guy had a 10 yard lead downfield, it took Grad five minutes to decide to throw the ball. By they way, what's his INT to TD ratio now? And what is he, 5-17 as a starter, but there's "no doubt" in some people's minds that Grad is the better QB? This midget isn't even an NFL caliber QB much less the best on the team!! I can't stand Kyle Boller- he's better!

NotRickJames · 11-28-2010, 10:35 PM

Like I said, both quarterbacks have struggled without an effective running game. See today and the 49ers game. Campbell was worse against the Niners than Bruce was today. If there's no running game, the offense struggles mightily. As for his record as a starter this year......Arizona would have been win if Jano hadn't chocked big time, and Murphy dropped that huge pass against Houston.

Campbell is not clearly better than Gradkowski. I absolutely am not going to believe Campbell would have won this game today. He'd have gotten murdered by the pressure.

Black Bolt · 11-28-2010, 10:58 PM

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Like I said, both quarterbacks have struggled without an effective running game. See today and the 49ers game. Campbell was worse against the Niners than Bruce was today. If there's no running game, the offense struggles mightily. As for his record as a starter this year......Arizona would have been win if Jano hadn't chocked big time, and Murphy dropped that huge pass against Houston.

Campbell is not clearly better than Gradkowski. I absolutely am not going to believe Campbell would have won this game today. He'd have gotten murdered by the pressure.

Actually, the pressure was nothing compared to the Pittsburg game. During that game, Satele allowed blitzers to blitz up the middle right passed him.

The Dolphins did stack the run, which meant we needed to attack them in the passing game, and with that in mind I think Campbell does a MUCH better job. He would have hit Ford like 31 other QB in the NFL would have.

You are right, we do need to run the ball to have success, but in order to run the ball, we have to gain first downs, and that's what Grad is supposedly so good at.

No, Campbell may not be clearly better in some people's books, but people here are on record, even after Campbell's win streak, as saying that Grad is clearly better and that my friend is a load of CRAP. I am looking at the game threads and they wouldn't say a word about Grad's suckage. They even jumped on other poster who chose not to drink the Kool-Aid.

NotRickJames · 11-28-2010, 11:05 PM

10.7 and 26.2 - that's the QB rating for Campbell in the two games he didn't have a running game. Campbell is almost as bad as JaMarcus was without a running game.

Bruce did better today than Campbell did in those games, end of story. Campbell wouldn't have done better today, and I think he'd of done a lot worse than Gradkowski.

And Campbell sure did efficiently convert first downs against the Niners and Steelers....

619 · 11-28-2010, 11:07 PM

Guys, take a look at Darren McFadden laying out one of their blitzing LBs on Ford's big leaping grab. Wow, can't believe that I missed that the first time.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-cant-m...-from-Dolphins