Archuleta Traded to Bears - Page 5

TheChampIsHere · 03-20-2007, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

Actually he wouldn't start. We just need someone to replace Todd Johnson as our backup SS and serve as insurance in case Mike Brown gets hurt (again).

Yes and Archuleta is a perfect fit for the role, its a very nice pickup and I would expect Lovie will come up with some creative ways to use him...Maybe put him in at LB on passing downs.

21ST · 03-21-2007, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BlindSite

Archuleta was a solid cover 2 safety but he's the highest paid player at his position in the league... Chicago are wasting money imo.

You mean tampa 2 saftey cause the redskins run a cover 2 defense and he sucked in it.

flave1969 · 03-21-2007, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by regoob2

hes gonna be a stud with the bears, it wasnt arch that sucked it was the Skins

Look the Skins did suck yes, but a stud he is not gonna be. He will be better by association with the fine players around him.

You have to understand Archuleta had lost his starting job in preseason to Pierson Prioleou and got it back because Pierson was injured on the opening kickoff and lost for the season.

Archuleta was exposed so often in coverage it was dreadful. Remember the Dallas game with the crazy field goals. Well Dallas needed a long completion to get in field goal range. Jason Witten who is a fine tight end I admit was past Archuleta so easily he had 5 yards on him in a second. It was then we all finally realised how incomplete he was as a player.

Some facts for you. Archuleta is a safety he is supposed to have some coverage skills.

Six Seasons have brought just 3 forced fumbles and 3 Interceptions. That isnt stud play.

You can look at the tackle stats and sack total and take hope that with such a good D surrounding him he will produce some good things, just dont call him a stud because he simply isn't one.

bsaza2358 · 03-21-2007, 09:16 AM

Here is my take on Archuletta.

* He is an excellent in-the-box safety who can help stuff the run and cover some shorter and intermediate routes. He tackles excellently and can bring the hammer when necessary. He doesn't overpursue rushing routes and is effective on the blitz. He wraps up well and doesn't go for the big show hit. He uses good communication to make reads and make plays.

* He has limitations in overall agility and in coverage. He can get lost on an island. Does not turn and run well. Does not chase down guys from behind well. Can keep plays in front of him at the expense of completions. He is not a worldbeater in coverage, but he can do some things in a structured system.

Archuletta is a younger, slightly faster, worse in coverage version of John Lynch. Lynch has played the SS in that system in TB, and Arch can do the same.

bsaza2358 · 03-21-2007, 09:17 AM

Overall, Archuletta is not going to give you INT's or pass breakups or great CF coverage. He CAN cover, but it is not his forte. Because it's not his strength, you have to surround him with superior pass rushing, good cover corners, and solid FS help. The Bears have all of it. Archuletta will fit in well there, and he can come out on Dime/Quarter coverage for faster coverage guys.

bigbluedefense · 03-21-2007, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

I know it must be hard being a fan of a team with no defense. Maybe if you cheer for the Bears a little nobody will notice.

We'll be back with a VENGENCE this year!!!!!

and anyway...

When we played the Colts when healthy, we gave up less points and less rushing yards than the Bears, who managed to give up 200 yards rushing in I believe 31 carries. Way to hit that A Gap Urlacher....

portermvp84 · 03-21-2007, 09:56 AM

IMO it will improve the Bears D by a little.

regoob2 · 03-21-2007, 11:26 AM

When we played the Colts when healthy, we gave up less points and less rushing yards than the Bears, who managed to give up 200 yards rushing in I believe 31 carries. Way to hit that A Gap Urlacher....[/quote]

we didnt play the colts healthy, we were down 2 pro bowlers, do the giants even have to pro bowlers on D. I guess if u dont have um u cant lose um

Splat · 03-21-2007, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by portermvp84

IMO it will improve the Bears D by a little.

The Bears D being better even by a little is scare for the NFC.

bearsfan_51 · 03-21-2007, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

We'll be back with a VENGENCE this year!!!!!

and anyway...

When we played the Colts when healthy, we gave up less points and less rushing yards than the Bears, who managed to give up 200 yards rushing in I believe 31 carries. Way to hit that A Gap Urlacher....

Ooooohh...the ol' "my team played better against X team than your team did" defense. I can tell that struck a nerve cause now you're getting desperate!!

How about when we actually played head to head in the regular season and Sexy Rexy Grossman stormed into the Meadowlands and made your measly secondary his ******!?!?!

bearsfan_51 · 03-21-2007, 01:07 PM

By the way, the buzz from the Chicago media is that this could potentially spell the end of Mike Brown in Chicago. There are rumors that they feel he might not be ready to go by TC and that he can't be relied upon to stay healthy fulltime. Supposedly they may ask him to restructure his deal, which is already insanely cheap in this market, and if they do so I'll think he'll refuse and force their hand.

I personally would rather just pay him 2.5 mil this year and take the chance that he would contribute nothing than cut him and see him tear **** up with a new contract on another team.

But they may know something I don't if all these rumors are true.

21ST · 03-21-2007, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Splat420

The Bears D being better even by a little is scare for the NFC.

Well my skins have not had a problem with the bears the last couple of times we played them, especially running the ball. They couldnt stop portis at all. The bears are very good, but they are also very beatable.

bsaza2358 · 03-21-2007, 03:55 PM

Yeah, that 9-7 "drubbing" in 2005 really showed the Bears...

21ST · 03-21-2007, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bsaza2358

Yeah, that 9-7 "drubbing" in 2005 really showed the Bears...

How many rushing yards did portis have

bsaza2358 · 03-21-2007, 03:58 PM

It was Week 1, the Redskins' OLine was dominant that year, and the Bears hadn't really gelled on D yet. It was also a home game for the Skins. 9-7 in Week 1 at home in 2006 and a lot of rushing yards = a tough, hard-fought win and no proof of anything relevant.

21ST · 03-21-2007, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bsaza2358

It was Week 1, the Redskins' OLine was dominant that year, and the Bears hadn't really gelled on D yet. It was also a home game for the Skins. 9-7 in Week 1 at home in 2006 and a lot of rushing yards = a tough, hard-fought win and no proof of anything relevant.

We ran all over the bears the last 2 times we played them and that offensive line aint never been dominant.

bearsfan_51 · 03-21-2007, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 21ST

Well my skins have not had a problem with the bears the last couple of times we played them, especially running the ball. They couldnt stop portis at all. The bears are very good, but they are also very beatable.

Hahaha...we haven't played you since we've been good brainlord. The last time we played was Kyle Orton's first game starting and we held you to 9 points.

Rest assured, when we play you this year we'll whipe the floor with your asses. I'm not even here to talk trash about some team I don't care about, but you're out of your damn mind if you think the Bears and the Skins are on the same level.

03-21-2007, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

Hahaha...we haven't played you since we've been good brainlord. The last time we played was Kyle Orton's first game starting and we held you to 9 points.

Rest assured, when we play you this year we'll whipe the floor with your asses. I'm not even here to talk trash about some team I don't care about, but you're out of your damn mind if you think the Bears and the Skins are on the same level.

yes he is rit the bears ar better. Redskins suck! LOL ROFL

bigbluedefense · 03-21-2007, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

Ooooohh...the ol' "my team played better against X team than your team did" defense. I can tell that struck a nerve cause now you're getting desperate!!

How about when we actually played head to head in the regular season and Sexy Rexy Grossman stormed into the Meadowlands and made your measly secondary his ******!?!?!

Eh, I thought the sad koolaid picture was a sign that I was being sarcastic.

Yes, it pains me to accept the fact that the Giants, who are historically a very proud defensive team, were a joke of a defense this year. Heck, under Tim Lewis we've been a joke his whole tenior.

Maybe I should change my name to bigblueoffense....

zjstratton · 03-21-2007, 07:49 PM

the bears totally got the better end of the deal, only giving up a 6th round pick. the redskins probably could of got a fourth if they would have tried.

KBear · 03-21-2007, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 21ST

The bears are very good, but they are also very beatable.

And here I thought that was obvious after the Super Bowl.

21ST · 03-21-2007, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

Hahaha...we haven't played you since we've been good brainlord. The last time we played was Kyle Orton's first game starting and we held you to 9 points.

Rest assured, when we play you this year we'll whipe the floor with your asses. I'm not even here to talk trash about some team I don't care about, but you're out of your damn mind if you think the Bears and the Skins are on the same level.

I never said they were on the same level im just sayin there are a bunch of teams in the NFC that can beat them.

Bearsfan123 · 03-21-2007, 10:52 PM

ill settle this dispute. Any Given Sunday. Wow. Hard concept nay?

We all need to remember that any given sunday any team can beat any other team.

regoob2 · 03-21-2007, 11:53 PM

I was about to say that

Splat · 03-23-2007, 10:56 AM

Based on what newly acquired safety Adam Archuleta has been told by the Bears, he has been given Mike Brown's job. Which means that Brown, a Pro Bowler in 2005, will either be cut or moved back to free safety.
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