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Old 03-15-2007, 11:35 AM    (permalink
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I think Buster Davis is exclusively a MLB. He probably does not have the speed to be a WLB and he is far too short.

Siler, Everett, or Alexander would be better choices. Even Durant would be a solid choice in the second round.
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Old 03-15-2007, 08:17 PM    (permalink
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Most of these speedy LBers that are out there are in the 220- or low 230s and that can't stop Jamel Lewis in his tracks at the line of scrimmage. That's been the problem with Johnson and Miller. They may make contact, but they can't bring people down NOW
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odell plays at 230 and could destroy jamal lewis. its more than size, its an attitude bringing down someone like that.
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Yeah I don't think we go with anyone of the MLB type, we already have Odell/Ahmad/Caleb/Nicholson who can play MLB. I'd really prefer just a pure WLB. Maybe we could manage to trade down and get Beason, then go CB round 2 and S round 3.
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i dont like beason at all and i dont think linebacker is as big a need as it is being made out to be. if odell comes back this would be a wasted pick imo. i still think we should trade down and pick up griffin and hopefully a 3rd rounder.
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I am devising this board using a formula that takes into account the position need and the player's talent level. First will be the positional need breakdown, then the player talent rankings, and then finally, the Bengals board. The formula is just positional need multiplied by the player's talent level.

Team Needs
QB- 0
Backup QB- 4.3
RB- 2
backup RB- 5
FB- 0
LT- 0
backup LT- 3.8
LG- 2
backup LG- 2.5
C- 2.7
backup C- 1.2
RG- 0
backup RG- 0
RT- 0
backup RT- 3.2
WR- 1
backup WR- 1
TE- 5.7
LE- 5.4
backup LE- 3.2
NT- 4.3
backup NT- 5.8
UT- 7.2
backup UT- 6.4
RE- 1.2
backup RE- 2.6
WLB- 7.9
backup WLB- 3.2
MLB- 5.2
backup MLB- 1.4
SLB- 3.3
backup SLB- 4.8
CB- 8.2
backup CB- 7.7
S- 6.1
backup S- 8.1

(for the most part, backup means second day, but I mean it as a guy that will be depth, not really a starter, at least not initially. For example, we could really use a WLB, but anyone who is not better than Landon Johnson would be a waste of a pick. That is why staring WLB is so much higher than backup.)

Player's Talent Level
Calvin Johnson- 10
Joe Thomas- 9.2
Brady Quinn- 9.1
Jamal Anderson- 8.8
Alan Branch- 8.6
Gaines Adams- 8.4
Adam Carriker- 8.4 (gets an extra point because he can play 3 positions)
Jamarcus Russell- 8.1
LaRon Landry- 8.1
Adrian Peterson- 7.9
Amobi Okoye- 7.9
Patrick Willis- 7.85
Levi Brown- 7.8
Dewayne Jarrett- 7.75
Chris Houston- 7.65
Lawrence Timmons- 7.6
Jarvis Moss- 7.4
Darell Revis- 7.4
Reggie Nelson- 7.25
Marshawn Lynch- 7
Leon Hall- 6.85
Sidney Rice- 6.6
Aaron Ross- 6.6
Michael Griffin- 6.5
Ryan Kalil- 6.3
John Beason- 6.2
Paul Posluszny- 6.15
Robert Meachem- 6
Charles Johnson- 5.9
Dwayne Bowe- 5.9
Michael Bush- 5.6
Quentin Moses- 5.6
Ted Ginn- 5.6
Joe Staley- 5.5
Justin Harrell- 5.5
Justin Blalock- 5.4
Anthony Spencer- 5.4
Brandon Merriweather- 5.35
Marcus McCauley- 5.3
DeMarcus Tyler- 5.2



Bengals' Board

Chris Houston- 62.73
Patrick Willis- 62.02 (as a WLB)
Adam Carriker- 60.48 (as a UT, where I think he fits best)
Lawrence Timmons- 60.04
Darrell Revis- 59.04
Amobi Okoye- 56.88
Leon Hall- 56.17
Aaron Ross- 54.12
Alan Branch- 49.88
LaRon Landry- 49.41
John Beason- 48.98
Paul Posluszny- 48.59
Jamal Anderson- 47.52
Reggie Nelson- 44.23
Marcus McCauley- 43.46
Michael Griffin- 39.65
Justin Harrell- 39.6
Brandon Merriweather- 32.63
Tank Tyler- 22.36
Gaines Adams- 21.84
Jarvis Moss- 19.24
Anthony Spencer- 17.82 (as SLB)
Ryan Kalil- 17.01
Adrian Peterson- 15.8
Marshawn Lynch- 14
Michael Bush- 12.2
Calvin Johnson- 10
Dewayne Jarrett- 7.75
Charles Johnson- 7.08
Quentin Moses- 6.72
Sidney Rice- 6.6
Robert Meachem- 6
Dewayne Bowe- 5.9
Ted Ginn- 5.6
Joe Thomas- 0
Brady Quinn- 0
Jamarcus Russell- 0
Levi Brown- 0
Joe Staley- 0
Justin Blalock- 0
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mrpotamus, great work and a very interesting post. kind of puts things in a different perspective. I may have some disagreements with some of your grades, but I really like where you are going with this.
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Old 03-25-2007, 10:48 AM    (permalink
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[quote=mrpotamus;240934]I am devising this board using a formula that takes into account the position need and the player's talent level. First will be the positional need breakdown, then the player talent rankings, and then finally, the Bengals board. The formula is just positional need multiplied by the player's talent level.


Player's Talent Level
Calvin Johnson- 10
Joe Thomas- 9.2
Brady Quinn- 9.1
Jamal Anderson- 8.8--more like an 8.1
Alan Branch- 8.6--an 8.4
Gaines Adams- 8.4 -- an 8.8
Adam Carriker- 8.4 (gets an extra point because he can play 3 positions)--an 7.8
Jamarcus Russell- 8.1--if Quinn is a 9.1 then Russell is a 9.2
LaRon Landry- 8.1
Adrian Peterson- 7.9
Amobi Okoye- 7.9
Patrick Willis- 7.85--there is a huge droppoff after Akoye--7.6
Levi Brown- 7.8--7.3 -- could go higher because of supply and demand
Dewayne Jarrett- 7.75--until he runs at least a 4.55, he's only a 6.6
Chris Houston- 7.65--another 6.9
Lawrence Timmons- 7.6--6.9
Jarvis Moss- 7.4
Darell Revis- 7.4--7.65
Reggie Nelson- 7.25
Marshawn Lynch- 7--6.8 but could be drafted higher because of need
Leon Hall- 6.85--closer to a 7.4
Sidney Rice- 6.6--more like a 5.5
Aaron Ross- 6.6
Michael Griffin- 6.5
Ryan Kalil- 6.3
John Beason- 6.2
Paul Posluszny- 6.15--moving up quickly 7.65
Robert Meachem- 6--on your chart at least a 6.5
Charles Johnson- 5.9
Dwayne Bowe- 5.9--more like a 6.8
Michael Bush- 5.6--off the charts because of injury situation
Quentin Moses- 5.6--4.6
Ted Ginn- 5.6--is at least an 7.8
Joe Staley- 5.5
Justin Harrell- 5.5
Justin Blalock- 5.4
Anthony Spencer- 5.4--6.6
Brandon Merriweather- 5.35
Marcus McCauley- 5.3
DeMarcus Tyler- 5.2


Great idea but you player talent rating still needs a lot of work. Even if you give Johnson a 10.0, most drafts have the top players starting at around 8.5.To get above that, you have to be very special with no question marks.
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