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Old 01-31-2011, 09:13 PM    (permalink
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Ted Ginn Jr. was classified as an ATH coming out of HS but projected as a CB on the college level. He is a player that was a good WR but better known as an outstanding PR/KR on the college level.

I would like to hear from you all who read this......Do you think if Ginn played CB at Ohio State, he would have translated well to the NFL as a CB than a WR?

What other HS ATH prospects do you wonder about if they would have played another position than what they did in college?
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Terrelle Pryor at DE. He'd know exactly what the quarterback is thinking!
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Ted Ginn Jr. was classified as an ATH coming out of HS but projected as a CB on the college level. He is a player that was a good WR but better known as an outstanding PR/KR on the college level.

I would like to hear from you all who read this......Do you think if Ginn played CB at Ohio State, he would have translated well to the NFL as a CB than a WR?

What other HS ATH prospects do you wonder about if they would have played another position than what they did in college?
He has no agility. The discrepancy between his straight line speed and his horizontal speed is absolutely shocking. He might be the fastest man in football over the 100m. But he couldn't shake a DE.

No way he could excel in man coverage. Nobody would beat him deep, but he couldn't keep with anybody in and out of breaks.

Also, he's as physical as a miniature poodle.
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there's plenty of guys who aren't quicker than Ginn Jr. who are great starting corners. Ginn has terrific hip fluidity and was a great cover corner prospect with tremendous ball skills. He played WR at Ohio State because (a) we needed a stud WR when he was here more than we needed a good corner (b) his playmaking ability was optimized on offense - he scored more touchdowns than he would have prevented with our defense and (c) corners have to be very good tacklers in Ohio State's defense and Ginn was closer to Deion Sanders in that regard. Ginn probably would've been a better pro if he was a cornerback all along, but you know what they say about hindsight.
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He has no agility. The discrepancy between his straight line speed and his horizontal speed is absolutely shocking. He might be the fastest man in football over the 100m. But he couldn't shake a DE.

No way he could excel in man coverage. Nobody would beat him deep, but he couldn't keep with anybody in and out of breaks.

Also, he's as physical as a miniature poodle.
I'm quite sure if he stuck with CB he would have hit the weight room hard & been in the 190 lb. range
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South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
Total Swagger: 62
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I said this awhile ago, Tressel ruined Ted Gunn when made him a WR. Ginn would have been a great corner
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I'm quite sure if he stuck with CB he would have hit the weight room hard & been in the 190 lb. range
Weight has nothing to do with it. Ginn's a ***** who wouldn't go over the middle as a WR. That's the type of guy you want at corner?
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I said this awhile ago, Tressel ruined Ted Gunn when made him a WR. Ginn would have been a great corner
Tressel's job isn't to produce pro prospects, his job is to win games at the collegiate level. The way to Ginn was gonna have maximum impact for us was if he had the ball in his hands, so Tress put him at wideout. And as a college WR Ginn was really good, even if a lot of it was him as a decoy.

The drops weren't as much of a problem in college as they have become in the NFL. I think its kinda a mental block more than anything.
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Ted Ginn is scared to even be tackled, much less come up and make a tackle.

Kid is softer than high dollar bath tissue.
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He has no agility. The discrepancy between his straight line speed and his horizontal speed is absolutely shocking. He might be the fastest man in football over the 100m. But he couldn't shake a DE.

No way he could excel in man coverage. Nobody would beat him deep, but he couldn't keep with anybody in and out of breaks.

Also, he's as physical as a miniature poodle.
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Weight has nothing to do with it. Ginn's a ***** who wouldn't go over the middle as a WR. That's the type of guy you want at corner?
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Kid is softer than high dollar bath tissue.
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haha this has turned into a ted ginn hate fest.

would NOT have made a good corner, not physical enough..got away in the high school level with elite speed.
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