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Old 03-26-2007, 02:59 PM    (permalink
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Default My prediction for David Carr

He's going to be the next Rich Gannon. Gannon spent the first seven years of his career failing, being cut, and being a nobody. Granted, David Carr had a lot more hype coming into the league and was picked much higher, but so far it appears to me like Carr's potential has just not been realized and it'll take one good coach and team duo to help Carr succeed at his natural limit.

For Gannon, it was Gruden and the Raiders. For Carr, who knows, but seeing him play twice a year for his whole career (I'm a Colts fan so I see him play as much or more than anyone not in Houston) I'm convinced that he was not the problem, the rest of the system was. If I had 1.8 seconds to throw the ball because my line couldn't hold a High School juvie squad, I wouldn't be putting up great numbers and lots of victories either. Not to mention who was on that offense to help besides Andre Johnson?

I think in a few years we'll be seeing Carr in a Pro Bowl or two, probably leading an NFC team to some moderate success. If not, well, I guess I was wrong.
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I think Carr and Gannon are completely differentn scenarios. Gannon was good because he was cerebral and accurate, and had good instincts despite average physical skills. Carr has superb physical skills, but he has no anticipation skills and has made little progress in reading defenses.
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I think Carr and Gannon are completely differentn scenarios. Gannon was good because he was cerebral and accurate, and had good instincts despite average physical skills. Carr has superb physical skills, but he has no anticipation skills and has made little progress in reading defenses.
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Hm...it's weird that some of the Colts fans think that Carr wasn't the problem...yet the Jags, Titans, and Texans fans think that he was.

I dunno. From what I saw of Carr, the only team he every played well against was the Jags.
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If my team had a good O-Line and was in need of a quarterback, I'd be pulling hard for David Carr.

I just can't help but think that he didn't get a fair shot. Same way I felt about Tim Couch.
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I hope he goes to the Vikings they have a pretty good line and running game I think he could be a great fit there I still believe he can be a legit starter maybe not a pro bowler but starter.
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If my team had a good O-Line and was in need of a quarterback, I'd be pulling hard for David Carr.

I just can't help but think that he didn't get a fair shot. Same way I felt about Tim Couch.
Tim Couch should have never been drafted in the first round. He put up huge numbers in a gimmick offense, and never learned how to read a defense properly. He had above average mobility, but an average arm.

Seriously. How the hell did Couch get drafted before McNabb, who was a better prospect in just about every way?
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Tim Couch should have never been drafted in the first round. He put up huge numbers in a gimmick offense, and never learned how to read a defense properly. He had above average mobility, but an average arm.

Seriously. How the hell did Couch get drafted before McNabb, who was a better prospect in just about every way?
The way couch was treated in cleveland was exactly what you shouldn't do with a QB. The same is for Carr.

He wasn't given enough talent
He wasn't given enough protection
His coaches constantly altered the schemes he was in
He had coordinator changes
He had coaches changes
He never had fan support
Never been able to get 3 full years in one system without changes.
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I hope he goes to the Vikings they have a pretty good line and running game I think he could be a great fit there I still believe he can be a legit starter maybe not a pro bowler but starter.
childress already said he will not go after carr. *sigh there goes the vikings chances.
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Yah I'm curious as to why the Vikes didn't go after him...they have the best OL out of QB hungry teams [how good is the Dolphins line? I didn't see them play much this past year]
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If my team had a good O-Line and was in need of a quarterback, I'd be pulling hard for David Carr.

I just can't help but think that he didn't get a fair shot. Same way I felt about Tim Couch.
Yeah we don't know what he can do with a decent line
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I believe his main problem is his intangibles, specifically his leadership. Carr just doesn't seem to inspire much confidence in his teamates and you could see that when some of the other Texans began to turn on him last year.
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i think he'd be a nice pickup in Carolina or Minnesota
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this comparison doesnt make much sense.Gannon was never given the shot that Carr has been given.Gannon tore his rotator cuff was out of football for a year and when he first came into the league the Pats tried to convert him to safety.
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Yeah we don't know what he can do with a decent line

Sure we do. He showed you this year.
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I have always been a supporter of David Carr. He is on a team that cant back him up. I am not like some fans that think every other teams players in there division suck. I feel sorry for Carr. He is better than what is shown. He will succeeed and the Vikings is a great guess at where he will end up. I have a likeing for the Dolphins so I would hope he goes there.

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I think Carr could be successful down the road. I agree, I think is was an example of system, not talent. I think a good fit for him would be the Ravens, actually, and I think he could be in a Pro Bowl if he plays like he is capable of.
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I didnt get to see him play often but when I did I flat out saw him just miss too many receivers to feel good about bringing him in. I love his potential, but its not like the Raiders have a good OL and if you cant hit an open target on a consistent basis you wont succeed at QB in the NFL.
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IMO Carolina sounds like a good fit for him because they have been a good team for a while despite their stutter this past season. I think sitting behind a veteran like Delhomme for a year or two would do him good.
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Carr would be a GREAT fit in Carolina.
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Let him sit behind Huard for a year in KC
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He should either go to the Raiders or Dolphins.
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I think miami could be an interesting place for him. Specially if Capers still believes in him and likes his potentials. Cameron did very well with developing Rivers out there in S.D. and runs a good system that should help out a Carr type passer. I could see him turn into a drew brees type of QB (not a top 5 type QB but a good quality QB).
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Carolina would probably be the best situation for him. He can sit back and not have pressure to surpass Jake Delhomme, ease into the system, play with a great receiver like Steve Smith, have a better overall system around him, and when Delhomme inevitably starts to crumble, swoop in and have a real chance.
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how about Raiders? we have a great OL, only thing is that we have allowed 72 sacks last season. but it was not the OL fault;)
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