NBA Discussion Thread - Page 2136

Shiver · 02-28-2011, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BeerBaron

I think Paul and Deron are top 2...is Rose not top 3 worthy yet?

If I was starting a franchise I would go in this order:

Deron Williams
Derrick Rose
Russell Westbrook
Rajon Rondo
Chris Paul

That knee bothers me and I worry that he has already lost some of his explosiveness. He isn't the same anymore, when he was the best PG in the league by a wide margin.

BeerBaron · 02-28-2011, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chucky

They have a month and a half to the playoffs. No panic.

Ah, the Laker approach. Just get to the playoffs however you can and go from there.

Shiver · 02-28-2011, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chucky

They have a month and a half to the playoffs. No panic.

True, but their lackadaisical effort has to go or it will be a harbinger of how they will perform in the post-season. But maybe they'd give it their full effort, which they obviously didn't last night.

But if I am Miami I would rather have the #2 seed anyway. I would much rather face Chicago in round 2 than Orlando due to match-up.

LonghornsLegend · 02-28-2011, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiver

If I was starting a franchise I would go in this order:

Deron Williams
Derrick Rose
Russell Westbrook
Rajon Rondo
Chris Paul

That knee bothers me and I worry that he has already lost some of his explosiveness. He isn't the same anymore, when he was the best PG in the league by a wide margin.

Yea I'm not gonna lie his injury, and longevity do give me some pause. I can easily say he's my #1 PG right now but if I was starting a franchise I'd probably take every guy you listed over him also. Deron is gonna end up playing alot longer, at a consistently high level, CP3 I don't think you can feel as confident about doing.

yourfavestoner · 02-28-2011, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by comahan

Nash is just as good now as he was in his MVP years, and unless we're talking "who would we build a franchise around for now and the future", Nash is easily one of the top choices.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that Nash has more healthy (not total) seasons left in him than Paul does. Dude just doesn't age. Who knows how quickly Paul's descent could go if his explosiveness and quickness are sapped.

Chucky · 02-28-2011, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by yourfavestoner

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that Nash has more healthy seasons left in him than Paul does. Dude just doesn't age.

His back is still a major issue. The Suns training staff does a great job, but they(*cough* HGH *cough* jk) can only do so much for so long.

WMD · 02-28-2011, 06:31 PM

Will Bynum will dominate your favorite PG. Unless your favorite PG is Will Bynum. In which case, I approve of your existence.

fenikz · 02-28-2011, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chucky

His back is still a major issue. The Suns training staff does a great job, but they(*cough* HGH *cough* jk) can only do so much for so long.

John Stockton played til he was 41, Nash could very well do the same if he wanted to. He takes care of his body so well and the Suns have the best training staff in the league, Hill is playing like a 25 year old and has missed like 1 game in the last 3 years combined

SickwithIt1010 · 02-28-2011, 06:42 PM

Top PG's

1a. D-Will
1b. CP3
1c. D Rose
4. Nash
5. Westbrook
6. Rondo

Chucky · 02-28-2011, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SickwithIt1010

Top PG's

1a. D-Will
1b. CP3
1c. D Rose
4. Nash
5. Westbrook
6. Rondo

1c? bahahaha

1.CP3
2.Deron
3.Rose
4.Westbrook
5.Nash
6.Rondo

Made some changes as the seasons gone along. Rondo takes a bit of a tumble. Rose and Westbrook move up(those were the two closest for me tbh)

diabsoule · 02-28-2011, 06:50 PM

For those saying CP3 is the best in the league just haven't watched him play this year. He has lost a considerable amount of his explosiveness, isn't as dynamic as he once was, and it's affected his jumper as well. He can't slash to the basket like he used to be able to, isn't as clutch as he once was, and has been wearing knee braces, like actual braces you see football players wearing, when he plays. I doubt he ever returns to his form pre-injury.

SickwithIt1010 · 02-28-2011, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chucky

1c? bahahaha

1.CP3
2.Deron
3.Rose
4.Westbrook
5.Nash
6.Rondo

Made some changes as the seasons gone along. Rondo takes a bit of a tumble. Rose and Westbrook move up(those were the two closest for me tbh)

lol you like that? I just like him too much to say hes number 3.

mqtirishfan · 02-28-2011, 06:59 PM

*Twiddles thumbs waiting for the Powe Show to return to Boston*

yodapoop · 02-28-2011, 07:04 PM

Rose is the best. That is all.....good day. I SAID GOOD DAY!

MetSox17 · 02-28-2011, 07:08 PM

If i'm making a list of top five point guards i'd want for the rest of the season and the playoffs, i don't think Russell Westbrook is in my top five. He's a freakin SG in my eyes.

Chucky · 02-28-2011, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MetSox17

If i'm making a list of top five point guards i'd want for the rest of the season and the playoffs, i don't think Russell Westbrook is in my top five. He's a freakin SG in my eyes.

I assume you feel the same way about Rose then?

soybean · 02-28-2011, 07:19 PM

Rajon Rondo is the Troy P. Of basketball.

iowatreat54 · 02-28-2011, 07:21 PM

yo123 · 02-28-2011, 07:35 PM

1. Deron
2. Rose
3. Paul
4. Nash
5. Rondo
6. Westbrook

John Wall will be in the discussion very, very soon.

Brodeur · 02-28-2011, 07:54 PM

Where the hell is Jonny Flynn on these lists?

1. Flynn
2. Deron (Paul when absolutely healthy)
3. Rose
4. Paul (injuredish)
5. Nash
6. Rondo
7. Westbrook

comahan · 02-28-2011, 07:56 PM

1-Deron
2-Rose
3-Nash
4-Paul
5-Westbrook

iowatreat54 · 02-28-2011, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodeur

Where the hell is Jonny Flynn on these lists?

1. Flynn
2. Deron (Paul when absolutely healthy)
3. Rose
4. Paul (injuredish)
5. Nash
6. Rondo
7. Westbrook

You forgot Rubio. Because only an idiotic team would pass up on 2 top 5 PGs in the first 6 picks of one draft...

iowatreat54 · 02-28-2011, 08:01 PM

Note to Washington: You are down 20, try more alley oops in every situation.

Fast break 3 on 1? Alley oop.
Fast break 2 on 1? Alley oop.
Broken play with a lot of defenders in the lane? Alley oop.
Reset offense? Alley oop.
Offensive rebound? You better believe there will be an alley oop.

Sadly, I'm not telling them they have to do all of those. They already have, and were 1/5 on them...

Oh another 3 on 1 failed alley oop...

yourfavestoner · 02-28-2011, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by diabsoule

For those saying CP3 is the best in the league just haven't watched him play this year. He has lost a considerable amount of his explosiveness, isn't as dynamic as he once was, and it's affected his jumper as well. He can't slash to the basket like he used to be able to, isn't as clutch as he once was, and has been wearing knee braces, like actual braces you see football players wearing, when he plays. I doubt he ever returns to his form pre-injury.

Completely agree with this, as much as it saddens me. It probably has to do with the fact that nobody has seen them play. I think they've had only one nationally televised game all year.

I keep trying to warn the Knicks fans that you just can't team up Amare and Paul - it's a $200 million disaster waiting to happen.

iowatreat54 · 02-28-2011, 08:16 PM

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