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Old 03-26-2011, 07:04 AM    (permalink
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Just wanted to let everyone know that I updated the rankings. Needless to say there were quite a few significant changes, including right at the very top. Feel free to post questions in this thread and I will definitely do my best to stop by from time to time and answer them.

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Quarterbacks
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/QB.php

Running Backs
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/RB.php

Fullbacks
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/FB.php

Wide Receivers
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http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/TE.php

Offensive Tackles
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/OT.php

Offensive Guards
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/OG.php

Centers
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/C.php

Defensive Ends
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/DE.php

Defensive Tackles
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/DT.php

Outside Linebackers
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/OLB.php

Inside Linebackers
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/ILB.php

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http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/CB.php

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http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/RS.php

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http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/SLEEPERS.php

Overrated / Underrated
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http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/TOP.php


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Scott Wright's Top 100 Overall Prospects

1. Patrick Peterson, CB, L.S.U.
2. A.J. Green, WR, Georgia
3. Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama
4. Von Miller, OLB, Texas A&M
5. Robert Quinn, DE, North Carolina
6. Julio Jones, WR, Alabama
7. Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson
8. Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri
9. Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska
10. Aldon Smith, DE, Missouri
11. Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn
12. Cameron Jordan, DE, California
13. Anthony Castonzo, OT, Boston College
14. J.J. Watt, DE, Wisconsin
15. Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Purdue
16. Tyron Smith, OT, USC
17. Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa
18. Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama
19. Mike Pouncey, OG, Florida
20. Brandon Harris, CB, Miami (FL)
21. Jake Locker, QB, Washington
22. Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin
23. Corey Liuget, DT, Illinois
24. Nate Solder, OT, Colorado
25. Kyle Rudolph, TE, Notre Dame
26. Cam Newton, QB, Auburn
27. Aaron Williams, S, Texas
28. Cameron Heyward, DE, Ohio St.
29. Derek Sherrod, OT, Mississippi St.
30. Stephen Paea, DT, Oregon St.
31. Jimmy Smith, CB, Colorado
32. Muhammad Wilkerson, DT, Temple
33. Akeem Ayers, OLB, UCLA
34. Danny Watkins, OG, Baylor
35. Allen Bailey, DE, Miami (FL)
36. Christian Ballard, DT, Iowa
37. Bruce Carter, OLB, North Carolina
38. Orlando Franklin, OT, Miami (FL)
39. Justin Houston, OLB, Georgia
40. Lance Kendricks, TE, Wisconsin
41. Brooks Reed, DE, Arizona
42. Phil Taylor, DT, Baylor
43. Rahim Moore, S, UCLA
44. Ryan Mallett, QB, Arkansas
45. Ras-I Dowling, CB, Virginia
46. Marcus Cannon, OG, T.C.U.
47. Titus Young, WR, Boise St.
48. Christian Ponder, QB, Florida St.
49. Jabaal Sheard, DE, Pittsburgh
50. Jon Baldwin, WR, Pittsburgh
51. Johnny Patrick, CB, Louisville
52. Rodney Hudson, OG, Florida St.
53. Marvin Austin, DT, North Carolina
54. Torrey Smith, WR, Maryland
55. Ben Ijalana, OT, Villanova
56. Clint Boling, OG, Georgia
57. Randall Cobb, WR, Kentucky
58. Mikel Leshoure, RB, Illinois
59. Leonard Hankerson, WR, Miami (FL)
60. Martez Wilson, ILB, Illinois
61. Ryan Williams, RB, Virginia Tech
62. Jerrel Jernigan, WR, Troy
63. Curtis Brown, CB, Texas
64. Stefen Wisniewski, C, Penn St.
65. Mason Foster, OLB, Washington
66. Drake Nevis, DT, L.S.U.
67. Kendall Hunter, RB, Oklahoma St.
68. Edmond Gates, WR, Abilene Christian
69. Jurrell Casey, DT, USC
70. James Carpenter, OG, Alabama
71. Greg Romeus, DE, Pittsburgh
72. Luke Stocker, TE, Tennessee
73. Quan Sturdivant, ILB, North Carolina
74. Ricky Stanzi, QB, Iowa
75. Daniel Thomas, RB, Kansas St.
76. Greg Little, WR, North Carolina
77. Jarvis Jenkins, DT, Clemson
78. Brandon Burton, CB, Utah
79. James Brewer, OT, Indiana
80. DeMarco Murray, RB, Oklahoma
81. Chimdi Chekwa, CB, Ohio St.
82. Greg Jones, ILB, Michigan St.
83. Mark Herzlich, OLB, Boston College
84. Niles Paul, WR, Nebraska
85. Chris Carter, OLB, Fresno St.
86. Jordan Todman. RB, Connecticut
87. Shareece Wright, CB, USC
88. Kenrick Ellis, DT, Hampton
89. Tandon Doss, WR, Indiana
90. Shane Vereen, RB, California
91. Sam Acho, DE, Texas
92. Dontay Moch, OLB, Nevada
93. Greg Salas, WR, Hawaii
94. Taiwan Jones, RB, Eastern Washington
95. Marcus Gilbert, OT, Florida
96. Kelvin Sheppard, ILB, L.S.U.
97. Will Rackley, OG, Lehigh
98. Davon House, CB, New Mexico St.
99. Colin Kaepernick, QB, Nevada
100. Jeremy Beal, DE, Oklahoma
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So interesting to see you have Cam Newton rated so low... any particular reason?
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Wow, you really don't perceive this draft to be deep with top RBs, WRs or TEs. Your dropoff after Ingram at RB and Jones at WR really jump out at me.
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Scott, when will the Combine measurements be reflected in the rankings?
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Locker still over Newton....doesn't look updated to me.

....and LMFAO @ Aldon Smith, Prince Amukamara over Nick Fairley. Is this real life?
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Locker still over Newton....doesn't look updated to me.

....and LMFAO @ Aldon Smith, Prince Amukamara over Nick Fairley. Is this real life?
I'm waiting for Locker to be ahead of Gabbert so i guess i would agree they need to be upgraded more.

This is what i like about Scout, most guys who do this stuff for a living would just follow the Lemmings off the cliff and not go against the grain. At this point it is probably a fine line between any of the top 3 QBs but i give Scott credit for putting himself out there.
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Not sure how Hankerson is rated below Cobb and a few other guys, I'll take a 6'2 reciever that runs a 4.4 over a mini me like Cobb any day. IMO he is the #4 WR out of this group of WRs.
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So interesting to see you have Cam Newton rated so low... any particular reason?
probably because hes not an NFL QB. do you need any more reasons?
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I have some problems with a # of players but that is probably just me.

I see Clayborn as dropping, there is plenty of talk about him as a 2nd rounder now and certainly no better than a late 1st rounder at best. His illness suggests he will only be able to play one side of the field with one side of his body stronger than the other and he has short arms. He doesn't has the quick jerk suddenness to be a real impact player IMO.

Quinn, his brain tumour is a worry and I haven't a clue what the doctors will tell GM's when he works out. I also think he needs a better 40 time to stay in the top 5 even without the medical issues.

I cannot see A.J. Green at #2, comparing him to Johnson is simply wrong. Johnson ran a super 40 time while Green only put up a 4.50 which is solid but not outstanding and to get into the top 5 of this strong draft, you have to be outstanding.

I'm not sold on Prince as a top 10 talent, he looked a little stiff to me at the combine drills, however I can see him being pushed up over his value because after Peterson, he is pretty well it at CB.

Which leads me to Brandon Harris, I'll eat humble pie if this guy goes round 1, his film is not outstanding in anyway and I could see him dropping as far as round 3 although round 2 is more likely.
Floyd, the WR for Notre Dame ate him for breakfast and he is just too way inconsistent for my liking.

Not a Hankerson fan, where is his speed on film during games and he drops balls all over the place. Yes, he had a nice Senior Bowl and Combine but game film is going to kill him.

Franklin I saw in one practice, cannot remember if it was the Senior Bowl or the Combine, the DE's had little problem getting by him, he will be strictly an OG at the next level. Doesn't posses the feet to play OT.

The Herzlich story is sad but I just don't see where he is the same prospect he was before his cancer. IMO, a 5th rounder at best.

One prospect I'd rate higher is Austin, the North Carolina DT. I think he will go high 2nd round at worst and could slip into very late round 1. I know there is character issues but this guy has top 10 talent and reminds me of Darrell Dockett coming out.
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So interesting to see you have Cam Newton rated so low... any particular reason?
Many, many reasons. Obviously Newton is raw, but my biggest issue is intangibles.
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Working on them this weekend, hope to have them live on the positional rankings pages and the individual player pages by Tuesday or Wednesday at the very latest.
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Many, many reasons. Obviously Newton is raw, but my biggest issue is intangibles.
It is a perfect example of each GM having to decide how he views a prospect, some will like Scott, be very suspicious of Newton's intangibles. while another GM may believe that Newton's intangibles are solid.
That's why the draft becomes so interesting.
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but my biggest issue is intangibles.
What issue is that? That he is an obvious winner and leader that was extremely liked by his teammates and coaches? I think this is the biggest judgment error made against Newton by people that really dont know a whole lot about him and subsequently shift the negative media backlash against him onto supposed on-field football 'issues' which blatantly aren't there.

What exact 'intangibles' does Gabbert really have? His collegiate career was horribly average by "top draft pick" standards and he is 0-2 in Bowl games including an absolute beat-down against freaking Navy last year and a loss this year against Iowa in which he flat-out threw the game away (literally).
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What issue is that? That he is an obvious winner and leader that was extremely liked by his teammates and coaches? I think this is the biggest judgment error made against Newton by people that really dont know a whole lot about him and subsequently shift the negative media backlash against him onto supposed on-field football 'issues' which blatantly aren't there.

What exact 'intangibles' does Gabbert really have? His collegiate career was horribly average by "top draft pick" standards and he is 0-2 in Bowl games including an absolute beat-down against freaking Navy last year and a loss this year against Iowa in which he flat-out threw the game away (literally).
How about issues that he is a cheater? Or a thief? Or a liar?
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Leonard Hankerson that low?????????????? WOW!!!!
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How about issues that he is a cheater? Or a thief? Or a liar?
Bammer fan. Is Dareus a cheater too? He willfully attended an agent-sponsored party and actually got suspended because of it. That is a bad teammate right there.
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How about issues that he is a cheater? Or a thief? Or a liar?
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This is what i like about Scout, most guys who do this stuff for a living would just follow the Lemmings off the cliff and not go against the grain. At this point it is probably a fine line between any of the top 3 QBs but i give Scott credit for putting himself out there.
Actually in this situation, Scott is following the lemmings. Everybody is throwing mud at Newton and Fairley. The only reason Scott hasn't dropped Locker is because he is stubborn about being wrong about him. He promised Locker would light up the Senior Bowl practices and he fell flat on his face.
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Actually in this situation, Scott is following the lemmings. Everybody is throwing mud at Newton and Fairley. The only reason Scott hasn't dropped Locker is because he is stubborn about being wrong about him. He promised Locker would light up the Senior Bowl practices and he fell flat on his face.
Ha, I didn't promise Locker, but I definitely thought he'd do better than he did. With that said, Locker was still ten times better than Tim Tebow was in Mobile and look where he was picked.
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I keep seeing Franklin climbing and I could see him with his nasty attitude and versatility sneaking into round 1 to Chicago, where he fits what Tice likes, or Pittsburgh who could start him at RT or RG.

An OLmen I think people are sleeping on is James Carpenter everything about this guy screams NFL starter.
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I keep seeing Franklin climbing and I could see him with his nasty attitude and versatility sneaking into round 1 to Chicago, where he fits what Tice likes, or Pittsburgh who could start him at RT or RG.

An OLmen I think people are sleeping on is James Carpenter everything about this guy screams NFL starter.
I am a huge fan of Orlando Franklin. I remember tweeting a bunch of positive stuff about him during the season while watching a Hurricanes game. I was also very impressed with James Carpenter at the Senior Bowl and he was much better than I expected.
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Bammer fan. Is Dareus a cheater too? He willfully attended an agent-sponsored party and actually got suspended because of it. That is a bad teammate right there.
I'm beginning to think that you are paid to post by Cam's agents.

And I'm actually not kidding.
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I am a huge fan of Orlando Franklin. I remember tweeting a bunch of positive stuff about him during the season while watching a Hurricanes game. I was also very impressed with James Carpenter at the Senior Bowl and he was much better than I expected.
I also like Franklin a lot. I believe that with no free agency before the draft, Franklin would be a nice pick for the Bears (though I'd rather them trade down and get an extra pick in the process). He could allow the Bears to go after OG or OT with Franklin potentially being able to play RT or LG.

As for Carpenter, "better than expected" isn't exactly a ringing endorsement. He's OK, but I don't see him being any factor in the run game. Doesn't look strong enough to me.
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As for Carpenter, "better than expected" isn't exactly a ringing endorsement. He's OK, but I don't see him being any factor in the run game. Doesn't look strong enough to me.
Perhaps I worded that wrong. The thing that surprised me about Carpenter is that while everyone has him pegged as a guard at the next level he actually played tackle in Mobile and more than held his own. Then again, I heard he lost his playbook early in the Senior Bowl week, which is a major no-no and if he did that in the NFL there would be hell to pay.
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