Draft Countdown Forums

Go Back   Draft Countdown Forums > The Locker Room > Off Topic

Off Topic Almost Anything Goes

View Poll Results: Is Channing Frye the most influential NBA PLAYER EVER?
Yes 623421 100.00%
No 0 0%
Voters: 623421. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-27-2007, 05:19 PM    (permalink
NYmoney
Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,084
Reputation: -1
NYmoney needs more cowbell.
Default

here's something the article didn't mention: last year in the 4th quarter Kobe literally quit on his teammates. he just kept passing the ball to prove to his team that they had to have him in order to win. he literally gave up.

Jordan would never do that. he never did. too much of a competitor
NYmoney is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2007, 05:20 PM    (permalink
derza222
All-Pro
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 7,569
Reputation: 436537
derza222 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.derza222 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.derza222 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.derza222 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.derza222 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.derza222 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.derza222 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.derza222 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.derza222 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.derza222 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.derza222 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by alca1992 View Post
?? did you just put durant at PF??
I had figured with that "smallish" lineup Durant and Gomes could share duties between the 3 and the 4 since Gomes is a little short for the 4 and Durant is a little slight for it but both shoot well enough to play the 3 (Durant is obviously much better) and who plays what position would depend on what team they were playing. That would play a bit of a more uptempo offense as well. You could always stick in Perkins at the 5/4, Jefferson next to him in the frontcourt, and then Durant at the 3 with Gomes off the bench.
derza222 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2007, 05:27 PM    (permalink
princefielder28
Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Green Bay, WI
Posts: 27,033
Reputation: 1729895
princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by derza222 View Post
I had figured with that "smallish" lineup Durant and Gomes could share duties between the 3 and the 4 since Gomes is a little short for the 4 and Durant is a little slight for it but both shoot well enough to play the 3 (Durant is obviously much better) and who plays what position would depend on what team they were playing. That would play a bit of a more uptempo offense as well. You could always stick in Perkins at the 5/4, Jefferson next to him in the frontcourt, and then Durant at the 3 with Gomes off the bench.
The last option mentioned would probably be most beneficial
__________________


Follow me on Twitter! http://twitter.com/#!/aMo_Captain
princefielder28 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2007, 05:28 PM    (permalink
princefielder28
Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Green Bay, WI
Posts: 27,033
Reputation: 1729895
princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by stillaraiderfan View Post
Nobody is better than Michael Jordan!
__________________


Follow me on Twitter! http://twitter.com/#!/aMo_Captain
princefielder28 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2007, 05:39 PM    (permalink
Namy
Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Denver, Colorado
Posts: 1,953
Reputation: 11598
Namy is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Namy is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Namy is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Namy is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Namy is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Namy is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Namy is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Namy is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Namy is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Namy is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Namy is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
The NBA is tougher now.
I thoroughly disagree w/this statement. With all the tacky calls that are given nowadays, MJ could probably average 40. Talent level can be disputed between the players of now to that of the 90's... but factor in Ewing, Starks, Olaujuan, Drexler, Malone, Stockton, Reggie Miller, Charles Barkley, Robinson, etc... it was just as tough imo.
__________________

Projected win total: 55+
Namy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2007, 05:42 PM    (permalink
JagHombre22
Pro Bowler
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Newberry, FL.
Posts: 4,921
Reputation: 880
JagHombre22 is a cocksman.JagHombre22 is a cocksman.JagHombre22 is a cocksman.JagHombre22 is a cocksman.
Default

today's league is completely better than the league MJ played in...the teams are better and it's harder to completely dominate as MJ did back in his prime...what Kobe is doing is great for the NBA (while some people would disagree...) he's bringing in people who never watch basketball just to see if he can score 50 points again...the NBA needs what Kobe is doing and Kobe knows this....best of all, his team is winning because of his killer instinct...what better way to have fun...
JagHombre22 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2007, 05:44 PM    (permalink
princefielder28
Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Green Bay, WI
Posts: 27,033
Reputation: 1729895
princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JagHombre22 View Post
today's league is completely better than the league MJ played in...the teams are better and it's harder to completely dominate as MJ did back in his prime...what Kobe is doing is great for the NBA (while some people would disagree...) he's bringing in people who never watch basketball just to see if he can score 50 points again...the NBA needs what Kobe is doing and Kobe knows this....best of all, his team is winning because of his killer instinct...what better way to have fun...
The only problem with today's game is that defense is something that you play when there's 2 minutes left and it's a close game; when MJ played defense was just as important as offense and today defense has taken a back seat
__________________


Follow me on Twitter! http://twitter.com/#!/aMo_Captain
princefielder28 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2007, 06:17 PM    (permalink
DHVF
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: On my backside
Posts: 14,001
Reputation: 93764
DHVF is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.DHVF is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.DHVF is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.DHVF is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.DHVF is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.DHVF is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.DHVF is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.DHVF is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.DHVF is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.DHVF is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.DHVF is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by stillaraiderfan View Post
Terrible read and 100% opinion based. My opinion, is that Kobe Bryant is nowhere near MJ, nowhere.
__________________
SKOL VIKINGS!


DHVF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2007, 06:21 PM    (permalink
sweetness34
Icon
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Soldier Field
Posts: 19,366
Reputation: 71208
sweetness34 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.sweetness34 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.sweetness34 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.sweetness34 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.sweetness34 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.sweetness34 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.sweetness34 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.sweetness34 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.sweetness34 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.sweetness34 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.sweetness34 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JagHombre22 View Post
today's league is completely better than the league MJ played in...the teams are better and it's harder to completely dominate as MJ did back in his prime...what Kobe is doing is great for the NBA (while some people would disagree...) he's bringing in people who never watch basketball just to see if he can score 50 points again...the NBA needs what Kobe is doing and Kobe knows this....best of all, his team is winning because of his killer instinct...what better way to have fun...
Talent wise, yes. Game play wise, no. Like Namy said, with all the ticky tack fouls that you get on offense, MJ could probably put up 40 a game.

Kobe hasn't done anything since Shaq left. You can argue all you want that Scottie Pippen was a top 50 basketball player, but Scottie needed MJ more than MJ needed Scottie. Case and point. When MJ left, Scottie said he could carry the team, which didn't happen. Then when MJ came back they dominated again. MJ in his prime is and always will be the greatest player of all-time, bar none IMO. LeBron may come close, but I don't see it.
__________________


Another sig courtesy of BoneKrusher

Quote:
Originally Posted by JBCX View Post
Despite looking better against an underachieving Eagles team, I still think the Bears are one of the worst teams in the NFL. I smell a blowout victory by the Lions this week and a division sweep.
sweetness34 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2007, 06:35 PM    (permalink
slightlyaraiderfan
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Cylon-occupied Earth
Posts: 12,252
Reputation: 911042
slightlyaraiderfan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.slightlyaraiderfan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.slightlyaraiderfan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.slightlyaraiderfan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.slightlyaraiderfan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.slightlyaraiderfan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.slightlyaraiderfan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.slightlyaraiderfan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.slightlyaraiderfan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.slightlyaraiderfan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.slightlyaraiderfan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetness34 View Post
Talent wise, yes. Game play wise, no. Like Namy said, with all the ticky tack fouls that you get on offense, MJ could probably put up 40 a game.

Kobe hasn't done anything since Shaq left. You can argue all you want that Scottie Pippen was a top 50 basketball player, but Scottie needed MJ more than MJ needed Scottie. Case and point. When MJ left, Scottie said he could carry the team, which didn't happen. Then when MJ came back they dominated again. MJ in his prime is and always will be the greatest player of all-time, bar none IMO. LeBron may come close, but I don't see it.
But still, Scottie is WAY better than anything that Kobe has had after Shaq. Winning championships is based on the team game, so of course Kobe hasn't "done" anything. In the 80's when Jordan was a one man show and scoring a ton, with no Pippen...was he winning rings?
__________________
slightlyaraiderfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2007, 06:46 PM    (permalink
iowatreat54
Icon
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Americanzi
Posts: 15,142
Reputation: 1346319
iowatreat54 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iowatreat54 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iowatreat54 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iowatreat54 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iowatreat54 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iowatreat54 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iowatreat54 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iowatreat54 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iowatreat54 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iowatreat54 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iowatreat54 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

my favorite part of the article is when she says MJ played guys like Starks and Dumars whereas Kobe plays guys like LeBron, Dwade and Tmac...

it's hilarious because that pretty much proves michael played against better defenders which was true for pretty much everyone in the league that MJ played...defense all around was better than it is now without question...seriously when was the last time any of those guys were NBA All-Defense (DWade was 2nd team in 04-05 and thats it)
__________________


"You don't need thumbs. My best friend is my brother's dog, he doesn't have any thumbs, he's doin fine."
-Pat Angerer on breaking his thumb.

DJK = Mr. Fun-Haver
Kirk Ferentz = Coach Killjoy
iowatreat54 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2007, 06:50 PM    (permalink
iowatreat54
Icon
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Americanzi
Posts: 15,142
Reputation: 1346319
iowatreat54 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iowatreat54 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iowatreat54 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iowatreat54 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iowatreat54 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iowatreat54 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iowatreat54 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iowatreat54 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iowatreat54 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iowatreat54 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iowatreat54 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

plus its yet another reason women should stay away from covering any sports...
__________________


"You don't need thumbs. My best friend is my brother's dog, he doesn't have any thumbs, he's doin fine."
-Pat Angerer on breaking his thumb.

DJK = Mr. Fun-Haver
Kirk Ferentz = Coach Killjoy
iowatreat54 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2007, 06:52 PM    (permalink
Brodeur
Brother Mouzone
Legend
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: It's clobberin' time.
Posts: 46,684
Reputation: 6809381
Brodeur is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Brodeur is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Brodeur is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Brodeur is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Brodeur is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Brodeur is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Brodeur is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Brodeur is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Brodeur is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Brodeur is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Brodeur is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetness34 View Post
Talent wise, yes. Game play wise, no. Like Namy said, with all the ticky tack fouls that you get on offense, MJ could probably put up 40 a game.

Kobe hasn't done anything since Shaq left. You can argue all you want that Scottie Pippen was a top 50 basketball player, but Scottie needed MJ more than MJ needed Scottie. Case and point. When MJ left, Scottie said he could carry the team, which didn't happen. Then when MJ came back they dominated again. MJ in his prime is and always will be the greatest player of all-time, bar none IMO. LeBron may come close, but I don't see it.
Well, they were one game away from the Eastern Conference finals (and would have made it had that BS foul not been called on him) in '94, so it's not like he didn't carry the team. Plus he was all first team NBA, won the All Star game MVP, and was top three in MVP voting.

And no, Kobe isn't better than MJ, but it is nice that we have an actual argument about this out there.
__________________


RIP TheManInBlack
Brodeur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2007, 07:07 PM    (permalink
WMD
Suck it Metsox
Legend
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Flint, Michigan
Posts: 25,862
Reputation: 3272296
WMD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.WMD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.WMD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.WMD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.WMD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.WMD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.WMD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.WMD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.WMD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.WMD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.WMD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by D-Unit View Post
Magic in sole position of the 7th playoff spot!!!

11 games left...

to be continued...

the goal is not give Detroit a lottery pick!!!! :D
Gimme dat lottery pick you vermin!
__________________
WMD is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2007, 08:38 PM    (permalink
sweetness34
Icon
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Soldier Field
Posts: 19,366
Reputation: 71208
sweetness34 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.sweetness34 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.sweetness34 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.sweetness34 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.sweetness34 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.sweetness34 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.sweetness34 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.sweetness34 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.sweetness34 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.sweetness34 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.sweetness34 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brodeur View Post
Well, they were one game away from the Eastern Conference finals (and would have made it had that BS foul not been called on him) in '94, so it's not like he didn't carry the team. Plus he was all first team NBA, won the All Star game MVP, and was top three in MVP voting.

And no, Kobe isn't better than MJ, but it is nice that we have an actual argument about this out there.
Oh no doubt you can have an argument about it, but MJ is a better player and there's no question about it. But I like a different perspective every once in a while.

Scottie was a fantastic complementary player, but he was never a franchise player. Reminds me a lot of what Luol Deng will be. Lu will be a fantastic player in a year or two, but he'll never be a Dwayne Wade type guy who can carry a team. That's not to a knock on the both of them, but it's just how their games compare to that of the superstars. Shaq on the other hand was a franchise player and quite possibly the most dominant C of all time next to Wilt The Stilt.

How many playoff series' has Kobe won since Shaq left? If memory serves me right he hasn't won any. Michael went to the Conference Finals in Scottie's first year, but Pippen was terrible in his rookie season, as was Horace Grant.

If MJ hadn't retired in 94 and 95, the Bulls IMO would have won 8 in a row. Well actually he came back at the end of 95 but was very rusty.
__________________


Another sig courtesy of BoneKrusher

Quote:
Originally Posted by JBCX View Post
Despite looking better against an underachieving Eagles team, I still think the Bears are one of the worst teams in the NFL. I smell a blowout victory by the Lions this week and a division sweep.
sweetness34 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2007, 08:43 PM    (permalink
iowatreat54
Icon
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Americanzi
Posts: 15,142
Reputation: 1346319
iowatreat54 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iowatreat54 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iowatreat54 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iowatreat54 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iowatreat54 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iowatreat54 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iowatreat54 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iowatreat54 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iowatreat54 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iowatreat54 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iowatreat54 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Da Bulls would have won 8 in a row from 91-98, and then gone for 10 so that MJ could have one on each thumb before retiring...
__________________


"You don't need thumbs. My best friend is my brother's dog, he doesn't have any thumbs, he's doin fine."
-Pat Angerer on breaking his thumb.

DJK = Mr. Fun-Haver
Kirk Ferentz = Coach Killjoy
iowatreat54 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2007, 12:02 AM    (permalink
Hinch87
 
Posts: n/a
Reputation:
Default

sweetness is right, the way the league is set up now is completey offensive minded. With the two hand in the back rule and the ticky tack hand fouls. Its amazing at some of the stuff they call now...I mean you can basically just back the defender all the way down to the hoop and the defender can not do anything with out getting a foul, so the nature of the game has changed since MJ where you could play tighter defense than todays game. So kobe has an advantage it todays league where it is perfectly set up for players like him. That espn article that lady wrote on the website is trash and the other espn writers were saying that as well.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2007, 12:30 AM    (permalink
WMD
Suck it Metsox
Legend
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Flint, Michigan
Posts: 25,862
Reputation: 3272296
WMD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.WMD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.WMD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.WMD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.WMD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.WMD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.WMD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.WMD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.WMD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.WMD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.WMD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

I think Kobe is the best in the NBA.. He's not better than Michael Jordan.. though it'd be interesting to see how he would've done in the Early-Mid 90's compared to Jordan.
__________________
WMD is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2007, 05:03 AM    (permalink
JagHombre22
Pro Bowler
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Newberry, FL.
Posts: 4,921
Reputation: 880
JagHombre22 is a cocksman.JagHombre22 is a cocksman.JagHombre22 is a cocksman.JagHombre22 is a cocksman.
Default

well...when Lamar odom gets 3 points, 14 rebs, and 11 assists....kobe got shut down tonight...Pau Gasol played great...
JagHombre22 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2007, 10:52 AM    (permalink
alca1992
Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: marrietta GA ( im from massachusetts)
Posts: 1,789
Reputation: 3497
alca1992 could make a wolverine purr.alca1992 could make a wolverine purr.alca1992 could make a wolverine purr.alca1992 could make a wolverine purr.alca1992 could make a wolverine purr.alca1992 could make a wolverine purr.alca1992 could make a wolverine purr.alca1992 could make a wolverine purr.alca1992 could make a wolverine purr.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by derza222 View Post
I had figured with that "smallish" lineup Durant and Gomes could share duties between the 3 and the 4 since Gomes is a little short for the 4 and Durant is a little slight for it but both shoot well enough to play the 3 (Durant is obviously much better) and who plays what position would depend on what team they were playing. That would play a bit of a more uptempo offense as well. You could always stick in Perkins at the 5/4, Jefferson next to him in the frontcourt, and then Durant at the 3 with Gomes off the bench.
well im just saying that durant is way too skinny to play PF even right now hes a little skinny for SF. he needs to some muscle on
__________________
alca1992 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2007, 11:55 AM    (permalink
HawkeyeFan
Rookie
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Iowa
Posts: 396
Reputation: 197069
HawkeyeFan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.HawkeyeFan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.HawkeyeFan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.HawkeyeFan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.HawkeyeFan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.HawkeyeFan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.HawkeyeFan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.HawkeyeFan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.HawkeyeFan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.HawkeyeFan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.HawkeyeFan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Kobe didn't get shut down. Its called an 'off game'.

Yea, Odoms pathetic when it comes to scoring.
__________________
| Hawkeyes || Rams || Lakers || Braves || Avalanche |

The Cadillac Three - Tennessee Mojo
http://youtu.be/N41DdVedXCo
HawkeyeFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2007, 11:58 AM    (permalink
bantx
I have a Custom Title
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 11,243
Reputation: 2187972
bantx is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bantx is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bantx is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bantx is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bantx is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bantx is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bantx is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bantx is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bantx is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bantx is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bantx is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by stillaraiderfan View Post
......Jemele Hill all im going to say
__________________


bantx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2007, 12:00 PM    (permalink
slightlyaraiderfan
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Cylon-occupied Earth
Posts: 12,252
Reputation: 911042
slightlyaraiderfan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.slightlyaraiderfan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.slightlyaraiderfan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.slightlyaraiderfan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.slightlyaraiderfan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.slightlyaraiderfan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.slightlyaraiderfan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.slightlyaraiderfan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.slightlyaraiderfan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.slightlyaraiderfan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.slightlyaraiderfan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkeyeFan View Post
Yea, Odoms pathetic when it comes to scoring.
Give him a break, he's playing through the pain....he has a torn labrum.
__________________
slightlyaraiderfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2007, 02:08 PM    (permalink
Brodeur
Brother Mouzone
Legend
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: It's clobberin' time.
Posts: 46,684
Reputation: 6809381
Brodeur is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Brodeur is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Brodeur is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Brodeur is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Brodeur is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Brodeur is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Brodeur is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Brodeur is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Brodeur is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Brodeur is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Brodeur is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetness34 View Post
Oh no doubt you can have an argument about it, but MJ is a better player and there's no question about it. But I like a different perspective every once in a while.

Scottie was a fantastic complementary player, but he was never a franchise player. Reminds me a lot of what Luol Deng will be. Lu will be a fantastic player in a year or two, but he'll never be a Dwayne Wade type guy who can carry a team. That's not to a knock on the both of them, but it's just how their games compare to that of the superstars. Shaq on the other hand was a franchise player and quite possibly the most dominant C of all time next to Wilt The Stilt.

How many playoff series' has Kobe won since Shaq left? If memory serves me right he hasn't won any. Michael went to the Conference Finals in Scottie's first year, but Pippen was terrible in his rookie season, as was Horace Grant.

If MJ hadn't retired in 94 and 95, the Bulls IMO would have won 8 in a row. Well actually he came back at the end of 95 but was very rusty.
Well actually, I think Pippen could have been a franchise player if he was given the opportunity to do so. He only had one season to prove himself, and he did do quite well in that season.
__________________


RIP TheManInBlack
Brodeur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2007, 02:22 PM    (permalink
sweetness34
Icon
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Soldier Field
Posts: 19,366
Reputation: 71208
sweetness34 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.sweetness34 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.sweetness34 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.sweetness34 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.sweetness34 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.sweetness34 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.sweetness34 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.sweetness34 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.sweetness34 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.sweetness34 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.sweetness34 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brodeur View Post
Well actually, I think Pippen could have been a franchise player if he was given the opportunity to do so. He only had one season to prove himself, and he did do quite well in that season.
Agree to disagree. IMO Scottie was a great player, but not a franchise player.
__________________


Another sig courtesy of BoneKrusher

Quote:
Originally Posted by JBCX View Post
Despite looking better against an underachieving Eagles team, I still think the Bears are one of the worst teams in the NFL. I smell a blowout victory by the Lions this week and a division sweep.
sweetness34 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:08 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.