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Old 03-28-2007, 04:15 PM    (permalink
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Wow... Did I kill the Cowboys homerism? I feel kind of bad about that...
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Without a doubt the Patriots are the best franchise in the NFL, but in the overall realm of the game and it's history there's the Packers, Cowboys, 49ers, and Steelers. Those four organizations are filled with great history and love of the game. The Patriots can be considered a great franchise but presently do not deserve to be in the same breath as those four.
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Wow... Did I kill the Cowboys homerism? I feel kind of bad about that...
how does an avid eagles fan feel bad about squashing anything remotely related the cowboys?? and it is always a good thing to kill cowboys homerism.
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I hate homerism in general. If an Eagles fan tried to say that Dawkins was the best safety of all time, I'd slap him. I have detested the self-given and self-promoted "America's Team" moniker for many years. I'm also having a bit of a crappy day, so I let it out on the Cowboys fans. I have nothing legitimately against the Cowboys as an organization. As a division rival, I hope they have no success ever again. I feel the same way about the Giants and Redskins. Doesn't mean I can't co-exist with their fans...
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In my opinion, the best franchise is one that gets the job done but doesn't reward the wrong people.

The Colts brought every staff member to the SB, that says a lot to me.
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Bsaza's rep has 'skyrocketed,' as it were, from just one post. A sign of a job well done.
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Bsaza's rep has skyrocketed, from just one post. A sign of a job well done.
I don't post here for rep. That post was a result of a bad day and long-term frustration with the Cowboy franchise's self-important attitude. I hate any group that believes itself to be above the rest.
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I don't post here for rep. That post was a result of a bad day and long-term frustration with the Cowboy franchise's self-important attitude. I hate any group that believes itself to be above the rest.
That wasn't what I was implying. What I was stating, was that post was long overdue, and in general, uplifted those who aren't Cowboys fans on this forum, i.e what seems to be the minority.

I agree with njx, one of the best posts, at least in a while. It made me say "thank you" to the computer monitor.
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Haha. I appreciate the dap from a poster who I have long respected. About a year ago, I was ready to leave the forum, but guys like Shiver made me stay.
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How is this even a question?

It is easily, the Cowboys, and I am not being a homer. The Cowboys are tied for most CHampionships, have the most conference titles, most playoff wins, most playoff appeariances, and most divison titles. Not to mention they are the most known team and famous team by far, and america's team. This isn't even a debate.
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Of All Time either the Steelers or the Dolphins. Dolphins have a better record since the merger. Steelers have the rings and contender tradition. Could go with Cowboys or 49ers for Championships as well, but their success didn't span multiple decades.
Not to nitpick or anything, but SF's dynasty spanned the 80's and 90's, basically running from '81-'98. The team was consistently very competitive and had a legitimate shot at a championship in every one of those years, except the strike-shortened '82 season. So the Niners' success definitely spanned two decades, and hence "multiple decades."

And bsaza, that was fantastic. Thanks for saying what every non-Cowboy's fan has been thinking for decades.
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All time? Gotta be the Packers or the Bears.

It's not called Titletown for no reason...
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all time? miami, pittsburgh, dallas and san francisco are right up there, with denver carrying the rear.

lately? new england (clearly), denver, philly
Woah woah woah. It pains me to see someone I consider very intelligent make such a stupid comment.

All time you've got Miami and Denver over Green Bay and Chicago?

Nuh-uh.

I've done my top ten historically ranked franchise post before and it would take way too much writing to effectively explain it again, but both teams historically have a lot more going for them than Miami or Denver. Add those two with Pittsburgh, Dallas, and San Fran and you've got your top 5 followed by the Redskins, Giants, Oakland, Miami, Denver, New England, and Cleveland.
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I cant beleive someone even mentioned the Eagles in this... They never even won a title hahaha.



BTW the answer to this is either the Packers or Steelers.
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Just because the Cowboys call themselves America's Team doesn't mean they're really "America's Team" in any way. That is self-patronizing BS. The Yankees have 26 World Championships and dress in blue and white (with a little red). Baseball is America's Game. The Yankees don't call themselves "America's Team". The Boston Celtics are the most dominant franchise in NBA history. Bill Russell has 11 championship rings. Basketball is an American-made sport. The Celtics hail from the Cradle of American Liberty. They don't call themselves "America's Team".

From now on, I'm going to refer to myself as "America's Poster". I'm sure fans of Bsaza2358 will follow suit. Does this sound selfish, self-serving, and make me look like a douchebag? Absolutely. How do you think the Cowboys look when they spout off with the America's Team crap?

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Super Bowl Victories

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Packers
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There was football before the superbowl ya know.
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All time in terms of championships
Packers
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Giants

All time in terms of wins
Bears
Packers
Giants

But the past is just a memory. As of right now it's the Patriots, Colts, and Denver. Those 3 teams pop up into my head as solid competitors every year.
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There was football before the superbowl ya know.
no ****.

i'm just stating the obvious since the football knowledge of most people on this site doesnt extend to pre 1967.
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In recent history, easily the Baltimore Ravens, New England Patriots, Philly Eagles, Carolina Panthers.

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no ****.

i'm just stating the obvious since the football knowledge of most people on this site doesnt extend to pre 1967.
Try 1997.


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In recent history, easily the Baltimore Ravens, New England Patriots, Philly Eagles, Carolina Panthers.

Historically Pittsburgh Steelers, Chicago Bears, Greenbay Packers and the Dallas Cowboys.
For your recent I don't see how you can put Carolina in the same category as NE, same with Baltimore. Well really you can't put anyone with them.

Also what are we considering recent? since 1990, 96, 2000, 2002, what?
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Its the Bears, Packers and Giants historically. Steelers also get the nod.
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