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Old 05-08-2011, 12:22 AM    (permalink
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Ahhhhh, its so nice to see the Celtic fans and ESPN happy again. Everyone likes to see it. Apparently, the Cetics are America's Team. I mean my God, I listened to Bill Simmons and Mattew Berry the other day on a Podcast, I follow Simmons on Twitter. Haha, Matthew Berry:"I have to cheer for the Celtics cuz its any1 but the Heat cuz what the Heat is doing doesn't count." Berry is a Laker fan, Simmons is a Celtic fan, and they were complaining the Big 3 is unfair to the NBA. Are u kidding me? Simmons called us bandwagon fans. HAHHAHAHAAHHAHAHA! The Celtics have 17 NBA Finals, the Lakers have 16. The Miami Heat have 1. A lot of teams have 0. Lakers and Celtics fans complaining about the Heat having too many stars is like the Yankees complaining that team X spends too much money. Its ******* pathetic. And all of them will come out of their **** holes and go woo hoo we won a game, celebrate. THE CELTICS ARE BACK!!!! Before realizing its still 2-1 and the scheduler did not inexplicably give the old ass Celtics 4 days for the next game. See ya in 48 hours, I hope we beat the living **** out of u. And I hope we break something else of Rondo's.
Where does so much hate come from?
Chill dude it is just a sport.
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There is nothing worse than Heat fans bitching about how everyone doesnt love them. I mean honestly...what the **** did you they expecg
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This is incorrect. MJ was an average shooter. Especially from distance.
I can't count the number of jumpers I watched Jordan take at the end of games. Guess how many I saw him miss...

MJ may have been an average shooter statistically, but that is in a bunch of garbage games that just don't mean much. When Jordan was in the playoffs, he was a nightmare.

He was a better shooter than LeBron (who is probably the better slasher - which is hard to say).
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There is nothing worse than Heat fans bitching about how everyone doesnt love them. I mean honestly...what the **** did you they expecg
Dude, we're called bandwagoners and fairweathered. What do u expect? And then, I don't mind certain fans bitching. But Laker and Celtic fans....c'mon. They've won like 33 of the what 50 NBA Championships, so them complaining is outrageous. I just can't stand the Celtics and Lakers. Thats what that is cuz its mostly them saying our fans are bandwagoners, fair weathered, people be questioning our fanhood. It ain't cool.
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Where does so much hate come from?
Chill dude it is just a sport.
Clearly, u are new here. I hate every other team besides my own. I even hate my own team most of the time and rant and ***** about them. So all in all, I hate everything.
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No way. MJ was an elite mid range shooter and improved his long range shooting drastically as he got older. Generalizing him as an average shooter is flat out wrong. He would just be Dwayne Wade then, not Michael Jordan.
By the 2nd 3peat Jordan was a fadeaway jump shooter, pretty much like kobe is now. Wade now is better than jordan was on his 2nd 3peat. I don't understand why people don't understand anyone selecting Shaq or even Hakeem if it was a single season instead of a whole career. Big just in general have a much larger impact than wingmen even with the rule changes that favor wing players currently. To tell you the truth, Jordan retired at the perfect time , because no way he was going to win the another final after that lockout with the emergence of Shaq and Kobe.
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Ben Gordon made more threes as a Bull than Jordan has.
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Clearly, u are new here. I hate every other team besides my own. I even hate my own team most of the time and rant and ***** about them. So all in all, I hate everything.
Hopefully you are still not upset about me stealing Julio Jones from you. :)
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Hopefully you are still not upset about me stealing Julio Jones from you. :)
Yeah I am, and I am still mad at the Atlanta Falcons. Ahhhh hell, I maybe mad at the world.
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By the 2nd 3peat Jordan was a fadeaway jump shooter, pretty much like kobe is now. Wade now is better than jordan was on his 2nd 3peat. I don't understand why people don't understand anyone selecting Shaq or even Hakeem if it was a single season instead of a whole career. Big just in general have a much larger impact than wingmen even with the rule changes that favor wing players currently. To tell you the truth, Jordan retired at the perfect time , because no way he was going to win the another final after that lockout with the emergence of Shaq and Kobe.
Yes, except that's false.
Jordan was 34/35 when he retired. You make it sound like he retired to avoid them.

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...I'm not quite sure where you're going with this
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C- W.Chamberlain
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SF- L.Bird
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PG- M.Johnson

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C- B.Russell
PF- C. Barkley
SF- O.Robertson
SG- K.Bryant
PG- J.Stockton
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Ahhhhh, its so nice to see the Celtic fans and ESPN happy again. Everyone likes to see it. Apparently, the Cetics are America's Team. I mean my God, I listened to Bill Simmons and Mattew Berry the other day on a Podcast, I follow Simmons on Twitter. Haha, Matthew Berry:"I have to cheer for the Celtics cuz its any1 but the Heat cuz what the Heat is doing doesn't count." Berry is a Laker fan, Simmons is a Celtic fan, and they were complaining the Big 3 is unfair to the NBA. Are u kidding me? Simmons called us bandwagon fans. HAHHAHAHAAHHAHAHA! The Celtics have 17 NBA Finals, the Lakers have 16. The Miami Heat have 1. A lot of teams have 0. Lakers and Celtics fans complaining about the Heat having too many stars is like the Yankees complaining that team X spends too much money. Its ******* pathetic. And all of them will come out of their **** holes and go woo hoo we won a game, celebrate. THE CELTICS ARE BACK!!!! Before realizing its still 2-1 and the scheduler did not inexplicably give the old ass Celtics 4 days for the next game. See ya in 48 hours, I hope we beat the living **** out of u. And I hope we break something else of Rondo's.
People hate the Heat for reasons that you already know, and people are rooting for the Celtics not because they love them, but because they ******* hate the Heat, most notably LeBrick.
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Yes, except that's false.
Jordan was 34/35 when he retired. You make it sound like he retired to avoid them.



...I'm not quite sure where you're going with this
Jordan has more of everything else

All-Time Lineup- 1st Team

C- W.Chamberlain
PF- T.Duncan
SF- L.Bird
SG- M.Jordan
PG- M.Johnson

All-Time 2nd Team

C- B.Russell
PF- C. Barkley
SF- O.Robertson
SG- K.Bryant
PG- J.Stockton
The Big O is a point guard. And every day you take Russell over Wilt and twice on the Sabbath.
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I'm a big Celtics fan but I'll take The Stilt over everyone not named Jordan.
Also, the Big O played the 2 and the 1. I just couldn't leave him off both teams.
I guess I'd put Kobe at the 3 if they were playing an actual team
I wouldn't put him over Jordan/Kobe/Magic/Stockton though

Who are the top small forwards anyways?
S.Pippen, Bird, Dr.J, C.Drexler, G.Hill (before the injuries), LBJ, Iceman, Worthy?
I'm sure I'm missing someone worth mentioning?
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Just for the heck of it i'll take a team of:

Moses Malone, C
Bob Petit, PF
Elgin Baylor, SF
Jerry West, SG
Isaah Thomas, PG
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I'm a big Celtics fan but I'll take The Stilt over everyone not named Jordan.
Also, the Big O played the 2 and the 1. I just couldn't leave him off both teams.
I guess I'd put Kobe at the 3 if they were playing an actual team
I wouldn't put him over Jordan/Kobe/Magic/Stockton though

Who are the top small forwards anyways?
S.Pippen, Bird, Dr.J, C.Drexler, G.Hill (before the injuries), LBJ, Iceman, Worthy?
I'm sure I'm missing someone worth mentioning?

Elgin Baylor.
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...I'm not quite sure where you're going with this
Jordan has more of everything else
I was just simply stating that since everyone makes Jordan out to be this deity who had no flaws as a player when a glaring weakness to his game was that he did not shoot from distance.
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Elgin Baylor.
I didn't forget about him. I didn't know what position he played though
When I saw he was only 6'5", I assumed he was a 2 guard
Most points scored in a finals game. Definitely had some game.
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LOL at this Laker defense. They look like they don't want to be there.
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**** YOU PEJA! When I needed 1, 1 ******* three to win my fantasy series, you can't hit anything. Now in the playoffs you now think you're larry bird.
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Yes, except that's false.
Jordan was 34/35 when he retired. You make it sound like he retired to avoid them.



...I'm not quite sure where you're going with this
Jordan has more of everything else

All-Time Lineup- 1st Team

C- W.Chamberlain
PF- T.Duncan
SF- L.Bird
SG- M.Jordan
PG- M.Johnson

All-Time 2nd Team

C- B.Russell
PF- C. Barkley
SF- O.Robertson
SG- K.Bryant
PG- J.Stockton
I hope you understand that a prime Wade was better than a 36 year old Jordan. I'm just stating my opinion that if he didn't retire after that jazz match up and kept playing with that core group, there was no way they'd be able to beat the lakers. It's not a disrespect or anything at all and he retired because Jerry Krause broke up the bulls to rebuild. Phil retired and Krause didn't want to give Scottie a long term extension so he retired which was perfect because he came out on top.

Yea that's a good team of all time players but if you were realistically making a team, I don't think you could do anything about this one.

C-Shaq
PF-Hakeem
SF-Pippen/Rodman
SG-Jordan
PG-Payton

Don't know if you want to trade the scoring/defense of Pippen for the Defense and rebounding of rodman.
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I'm a big Celtics fan but I'll take The Stilt over everyone not named Jordan.
Also, the Big O played the 2 and the 1. I just couldn't leave him off both teams.
I guess I'd put Kobe at the 3 if they were playing an actual team
I wouldn't put him over Jordan/Kobe/Magic/Stockton though

Who are the top small forwards anyways?
S.Pippen, Bird, Dr.J, C.Drexler, G.Hill (before the injuries), LBJ, Iceman, Worthy?
I'm sure I'm missing someone worth mentioning?
Depends if you want pure offense, defense or a mixture.

Offense wise it has to be Bird or Mcgrady

Defense it's either pippen or Rodman (the man could defense 4 positions and was just a beast overall)

The best overall is probably LBJ though if you didn't have players that needed to dominate the ball on your team.

Oh and you forgot Elgin Baylor and Hondo (John Havlicek).

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People hate the Heat for reasons that you already know, and people are rooting for the Celtics not because they love them, but because they ******* hate the Heat, most notably LeBrick.
I'm going with that same reasoning when it comes for rooting for the Mavs.
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**** YOU PEJA! When I needed 1, 1 ******* three to win my fantasy series, you can't hit anything. Now in the playoffs you now think you're larry bird.
The Lakers defense looks worse than the Houston Texans secondary.
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Is it just me or are the Lakers really bad? Either that or they quit on Phil. Gasol has been flat out bad this series, Bynum is alright, Odom has been terrible, Fisher is just terrible, and Kobe has been meh. And the second unit has been embarrassing.
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I'm going with that same reasoning when it comes for rooting for the Mavs.
Yeah, that was my original reason for rooting for the Mavs, but I have watched every game this series and have fallen in love with the way they play. I am on this bandwagon for the rest of the playoffs.
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