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Old 05-27-2011, 05:16 PM    (permalink
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And Jordan, you know, went to college, so his career started later.
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And Jordan, you know, went to college, so his career started later.
Yup MJ won his first championship in his 7th year as a pro, this is LeBron's 8th year, that's the number that matters not age. Who cares what the age is, just like how Josh Smith is the youngest player in league history to 500 blocks, it's a nice stat but doesn't mean he was the fastest to 500. Also MJ didn't need to join a super squad to win a ring. People need to look at that 1990/91 club MJ won his first ring with. That team had no allstars or all NBA players aside from him, MJ carried that team completely. They had as mediocre of a roster that you can find. Pippen was young and not an allstar yet and the rest of the roster were role players at best. Their interior defense was poor. I just find it funny how LeBron quit last year knowing he had the #1 team in the league and had a chance to win a chip in his 7th year like MJ.
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Jordan's age when he won his first Championship: 28

Lebron's current age: 26


There's a lot of new Dirk fans out there right now. :)
Straight out of high school vs. 3 years of college?
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I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.
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I can't believe this is even an argument.
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Any championship that Lebron wins is meaningless. The mass majority won't give him equal credit that past players got.

Lebron winning rings is pretty much on par with Gary Payton as far as I'm concerned.
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It's not like Jordan was considered the greatest ever at 26. And whether LeBron played in college or not is irrelevant. The point is LeBron could potentially play another decade or more. His career is likely far from over.
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MJ revolutionalized the game. He did to basketball what Tiger did to golf.

Lebron is even a byproduct of MJ. Dude even wanted the number 23!

There will never be a greater influence on the game of basketball. ...but I don't know... does that count or are you just talking skillz? MJ's impact was more than just skills. MJ made those around him better and won Championships with them.

Lebron is overrated. Kobe is better. Shaq in his prime is arguably the best if you're talking dominating player who can't be stopped. They changed the rules because of him.
How is Kobe better than LeBron? yes, I know Kobe won five championships but he is not better. I know most of you guys in here hate LeBron because he did the unthinkable and joined a good instead of giving the Cavs 7 more years to find him help.
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It's not like Jordan was considered the greatest ever at 26. And whether LeBron played in college or not is irrelevant. The point is LeBron could potentially play another decade or more. His career is likely far from over.
Lebron cant hold Jordan's jock, and he never will.
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yeah Jordan also won his first title with a young Pippen averaging far below 20 ppg, and the next highest scorers being Horace Grant, BJ Armstrong, and Bill Cartwright none averaging in double figures. LeBron just happens to be playing with the #2 player in the league in Dwayne Wade(at the very least top 5) and an allstar big man. Wade is the guy with the ring, why can't this be about Wade getting his 2nd ring at the age of 29 with the help of LeBron.
Grant and Pippen were good to great defense of players IDK about the other 2. Tell me if you would take any of the Cav player LeBron has played with over a 1990 Pippen or Grant
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Any championship that Lebron wins is meaningless. The mass majority won't give him equal credit that past players got.

Lebron winning rings is pretty much on par with Gary Payton as far as I'm concerned.
Cause he played with a couple of All-Stars like Magic,Bird and Jordan did? lol
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Yup MJ won his first championship in his 7th year as a pro, this is LeBron's 8th year, that's the number that matters not age. Who cares what the age is, just like how Josh Smith is the youngest player in league history to 500 blocks, it's a nice stat but doesn't mean he was the fastest to 500. Also MJ didn't need to join a super squad to win a ring. People need to look at that 1990/91 club MJ won his first ring with. That team had no allstars or all NBA players aside from him, MJ carried that team completely. They had as mediocre of a roster that you can find. Pippen was young and not an allstar yet and the rest of the roster were role players at best. Their interior defense was poor. I just find it funny how LeBron quit last year knowing he had the #1 team in the league and had a chance to win a chip in his 7th year like MJ.
Actually Pippen was a All-Star the previous year before they won there 1st Championship.
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Cause the guy came into the league calling himself King trying to be the next Jordan and then pulls a 2 year saga about his FA only to go and join Wade's team.
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Cause he played with a couple of All-Stars like Magic,Bird and Jordan did? lol
They stayed with their teams through the good times and the bad. Magic stepped into a pretty damn good situation, but MJ went through some brutal times but he never bailed.
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Actually Pippen was a All-Star the previous year before they won there 1st Championship.
And Mo Williams was an All-Star in 2009. :P

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They stayed with their teams through the good times and the bad. Magic stepped into a pretty damn good situation, but MJ went through some brutal times but he never bailed.
But they got Jordan Help, LeBron got antawn jamison(good scorer but a #3 or 4), Mo Williams and that 3 pt shooter what his face Bobbie something( I want to say Miles but that is from friday night lights).
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How is Kobe better than LeBron? yes, I know Kobe won five championships but he is not better. I know most of you guys in here hate LeBron because he did the unthinkable and joined a good instead of giving the Cavs 7 more years to find him help.
LOL. Call me when Lebron is on the same level as Kobe as a shooter.
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And Mo Williams was an All-Star in 2009.
I knew someone was going to say that, I hope you know Scottie Pippen was 100x better than Mo Williams.
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But they got Jordan Help, LeBron got antawn jamison(good scorer but a #3 or 4), Mo Williams and that 3 pt shooter what his face Bobbie something( I want to say Miles but that is from friday night lights).
Jordan never had talents like Wade and Bosh.

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LOL. Call me when Lebron is on the same level as Kobe as a shooter.
You won, Peja is the best player.
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Jordan never had talents like Wade and Bosh.

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He said Jordan, Magic and Bird stayed with their teams and I gave him the reason why he left because he was not getting any help.

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You won, Peja is the best player.
Reeeeeeeeeeach. You lose.
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Reeeeeeeeeeach. You lose.
No you reached I said better played not shooter, Good day I will be on later.
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He said Jordan, Magic and Bird stayed with their teams and I gave him the reason why he left because he was not getting any help.

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And by doing so, he gave up the willingness to "be the man".

He didn't want to be a franchise player that the team could build around. He didn't want to be the man, so nobody should crown him. He gave that up. He just wanted to win. Even if it was the easy way. He chose being Wade's sidekick rather than building around him.
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And by doing so, he gave up the willingness to "be the man".

He didn't want to be a franchise player that the team could build around. He didn't want to be the man, so nobody should crown him. He gave that up. He just wanted to win. Even if it was the easy way. He chose being Wade's sidekick rather than building around him.
And that's thread./
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